Google is removing dislike counts on YouTube

Martin Brinkmann
Nov 11, 2021
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Google announced this week that it will remove dislike counts from all videos on the YouTube video platform. Dislike counts are made private but the dislike button will remain available to users according to the announcement.

Google ran an experiment earlier this year on YouTube which tested whether the removal of the dislike count would protect "creators from harassment, and reduce dislike attacks". Viewers who were selected for the experiment could interact with the dislike button but the count was not displayed.  The data showed a "reduction in dislike attacking behavior" according to Google. The company has not published the data of the experiment.

Google's conclusion was to hide the dislike count on YouTube. The change is rolling out to all users over time and the rollout of the change started on November 10, 2021.

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Content creators may still see the dislike count of their videos, and YouTube's algorithm uses the dislike action for its recommendation system.

At least some YouTube users will be displeased with the change. While YouTube does not display like and dislike counts on its search results pages, some have used the information in the past to determine whether to watch a video.  Google admits as much:

We heard during the experiment that some of you have used the public dislike count to help decide whether or not to watch a video. We know that you might not agree with this decision, but we believe that this is the right thing to do for the platform.

Now, with dislikes not being displayed publicly anymore, that options is removed from the site. While the comment section may provide an answer, it requires additional time and some users may ignore the comment section because it is often filled with useless comments.

The like count does not reveal much about how helpful or good a video is. Take the YouTube Rewind 2018 video. It has 220 million views and 3 million likes. Sounds like a great video, does it? Problem is, the dislike count is at 19 million currently, which means that it has one of the worst ratios on YouTube.

Someone might create a formula using a video's view count and likes, and that might become a good metric until Google decides to remove one or the other as well from its site.

Considering that Google claims that the change is done for the content creators, would not it be better if content creators would get the chance to enable or disable the public display of dislikes and likes? Those who don't want the metrics to be publicly available could disable these in the preferences, similarly to how some creators decide to disable comments.

Now You: do you use dislike on YouTube?

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  1. Yuliya said on November 11, 2021 at 1:24 pm
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    Snowflake generation. Don’t look at them wrong, they might start crying.

    1. Paul(us) said on November 11, 2021 at 2:09 pm
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      L.O.L!

    2. ULBoom said on November 11, 2021 at 2:27 pm
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      Couldn’t agree more. Phone Culture, frozen in fear. Tough up!

    3. Festusdog said on November 11, 2021 at 2:37 pm
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      Agreed 100%. This is totally about the optics of how overwhelming the sheer number of dislikes there are for all of the USA socialist Democrat videos, with Google being completely in bed with the socialist Democrats to the degree that they now PROHIBIT ALL DISCUSSIONS about topics they disagree with, such as vaccine safety and election fraud.

      Hiding the dislikes allows them to PRETEND that liberal policies are popular. Hard to pretend that’s true when there is typically 10x-20x more dislikes than likes.

      So PRETEND it will be.

      1. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 2:43 pm
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        And now you’ll never find out which tinfoil hat people think you look best in.

      2. WorknMan said on November 11, 2021 at 3:39 pm
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        ‘they now PROHIBIT ALL DISCUSSIONS about topics they disagree with’

        I’m not saying you’re wrong, but this is definitely an area where ‘both sides’ applies. I’ve been banned from several right-leaning subs on Reddit, and I try hard to keep things civil. People in general are just not interested in any point of view other than their own.

      3. Delete Google said on November 12, 2021 at 1:10 am
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        How do you compare an obscure Reddit sub with the entirety of Google? Then add Twitter and Facebook to that. Where is the right wing conspiracy and mass Russian propaganda? The left wing controls social media and is crushing all dissent even when it’s organic. Reddit is mostly left wing too. I’m not right wing, but what the left wing is doing is dangerous.

        This is another case of “Let’s go Brandon!” They’re trying to hide how unhappy people are with the Brandon administration.

    4. Anonymous said on November 12, 2021 at 6:20 am
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      Time to start my clickbait youtube career! Give me them MONIES!!!!

    5. Fireview said on November 12, 2021 at 8:33 am
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      Yeah. Punch a nazi and they cry ‘cancel culture’. Boo hoo.

    6. Karen said on November 13, 2021 at 4:53 pm
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      I agree. Bow at their feet and maybe, just maybe, they will be happy.

    7. Adrian said on November 14, 2021 at 12:51 am
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      if you mean the corporations that are paying google/partners with them not liking their shit getting dislike bombed then yes snowflakes are definitely the problem here. Actual youtubers don’t care about dislikes being seen. Movie company’s and other people that put things like trailers and ads however very much do. It’s these people that want how much people dislike their BS to be hidden. Just look at the abomination that is the new home alone trailer.

    8. Orwell said on November 14, 2021 at 11:33 am
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      This move have not so much with a snowflake generation to do which on itself is a social engineered phenomenon with help of MSM, the removal of dislike button has everything to do with the dislikes people have for draconian and dystopian nonsense the elite is pushing on all of the humanity, they are running in a world wide communism, just go to WEF’s channel on YT and you will see every video gets some 90% dislikes, but when WEF pander sick ideas such as “you will own nothing, and you will be happy”, “lab grown meat and bug burger” etc (search that!) it’s no wonder why they receive so much dislikes.

      ps. Have forecast already some years ago how our world is moving towards a society where we don’t own anything but rather get the rights to use their services and/or products, just look at car sharing idea, in the future there will be only autonomous cars owned by big brother, and if your social scores sucks then no ride for you.
      It’s actually funny and ironic how all the bashed big brother surveillance and punishment stuff happening in China is coming on a broad front in the Western world.
      The whole health crisis sh!te is another thing used as an excuse to run in all kinds of dystopian crap, but people are slowly waking up to and wondering what’s going on with MSM excessive lies, whipping up fear etc which could easily be likened to state supported and sponsored terrorism, oh and all the kinds of manufactured “crisis” now coming in the wake of the pandemic such as “semiconductor crisis” hampering the car industry.

  2. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 2:04 pm
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    Since Google is creating buttons that appear to do nothing, why not add more buttons for slightly-like and slightly-dislike? They could represent them on a five star scale. Maybe even make the stars red to match the logo…

    1. Anonymous said on November 12, 2021 at 6:21 am
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      thats such an innovative idea….

      wait a minute

  3. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 2:17 pm
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    White House 80 million.

  4. Darthagnon said on November 11, 2021 at 2:21 pm
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    I’m going to dislike every video I watch once this change is released. I reckon it’s about time we made some sort of universal Like/Dislike browser extension, so that videos, content, etc. can be rated without dependence on websites themselves

    1. ShintoPlasm said on November 11, 2021 at 5:46 pm
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      Wasn’t that Dissenter’s main schtick?

  5. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 2:29 pm
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    I don’t use the like or the dislike buttons on Youtube, although sometimes I may want to, since it means registering with Youtube, i.e. Google, which I will not do since I value my privacy. Without registering, I am still tracked by Youtube/Google.

  6. ULBoom said on November 11, 2021 at 2:34 pm
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    They make more money that way. Do they have the guts to remove the rating system altogether?

    I’m watching one of those recent TV ads claiming Google is protecting your entire life from evil. The Facebook ones are ridiculous, “We want regulation…” IOTW, “Nothing’s our fault, we’ll do whatever we want until we’re stopped. The ball’s in YOUR hands.”

  7. SteveB said on November 11, 2021 at 2:57 pm
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    I follow very few content creators, typically leading educators who make great videos on creative ways of using Photoshop.

    What I have noticed though, no matter what the subject of the video, for any creator there is always a consistent small % of ‘Dislikes’, none of whom comment as to why they ‘Dislike’ it.

    To me, that indicates either some weird attempt to negatively impact that creator, or their Youtube standing, or it’s just plain old childish behaviour which happens when individuals are anonymous and are not accountable.

  8. asd said on November 11, 2021 at 3:45 pm
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    I am surprised it took them this long to realize that it is better for making money if they remove negative emotions.

  9. John G. said on November 11, 2021 at 6:30 pm
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    If this going on this way, in a near future they will include a ‘political correctness’ button to report all kind of silly stuff to the big brother. Modern dictatorship warfare is coming :]

    1. Fireview said on November 12, 2021 at 8:37 am
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      Political correctness is a term invented by crybaby expendable nazichristians and doesn’t exist in real life or anywhere outside their heads.

  10. Shiva said on November 11, 2021 at 6:32 pm
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    I have never used any of the “Like”\”Dislike” buttons nor I consider them useful and usually I don’t even notice them. An evaluation without arguing has no value above all when technical opinions are required instead of emotional advices.

    “Problem is, the dislike count is at 19 million currently, which means that it has one of the worst ratios on YouTube.”
    Put it like that, I don’t see the problem. Is the number of views a direct quality index in a social dynamic context on the web? Perhaps in part, I read only that on 220 million views a less 10% subset of people expressed an opinion mainly negative.
    Moreover, is this subset (people who usually use these buttons) in any case to be considered as a representative sample compared to all viewers?

    From my point of view without real knowledge, both buttons should be hidden and left as an option for content creators, it seems to me the only way to minimize compulsive behaviors even unnecessary. At most if you like a content you can already share it.

    I’m a little worried when I read about mental health related to the use of social buttons or the negative impact of content rating on the quality of journalism. Well, maybe its because I remember “Majority rule’ of Orville or ‘Nosedive’ of Black Mirror, certainly before we are masses we are still individuals with a brain and I doubt that the number of views or appreciations of a fake news video can change its lies.

  11. Haakon said on November 11, 2021 at 7:29 pm
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    My faith in humanity is restored!

  12. ULBoom said on November 11, 2021 at 8:23 pm
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    From one of those Disney teen shows a few years back:

    Techie teen boy: “I’ll make you a LikeBot.”

    A week later…

    Preteen sister: “Wow!!! My channel’s only been online for a week and I already have a million followers and three million likes!!!” “I’m so far ahead, that nasty Priscilla will never catch up!!!”

    And so it goes… from frivolous and silly then to mean and violent now.

  13. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 8:57 pm
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    Both the like and dislike buttons are useless in the context of Youtube. Some will like and some will hate whatever you put up and some will like it but click the dislike button because that’s the way they are (e.g. they have strange talk in their heads that tell them the video is actually evil and nobody but them has the mental capability to discern that). Its a strange world. When checking, something like 5% dislike covers the crazies.

    Sometimes the positive count is misleading. Try to rationalise the positive count for “WE’RE ALL WATER by Yoko Ono”.

  14. Anonymous said on November 11, 2021 at 9:32 pm
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    Might as well get rid of likes as well. There is no reason for this feature anymore if dislikes are gone.

    1. Fireview said on November 12, 2021 at 8:46 am
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      I use likes as bookmarks for videos I want to see again. I use dislikes if YouTube keeps pushing something I don’t want to see, like crappy pop music, conspiracies or reaction videos. Then it goes away. Judging by comments today, some right wingers actively chase videos to dislike them en masse. Some people should get a life…

  15. Jojo said on November 11, 2021 at 10:34 pm
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    A lot of mainstream sites have done similar. The NYT removed dislikes 2-3 years back. Now all you can do is like something.

    A site called off-guardian that I visit occasionally just removed both likes & dislikes.

    People are overly sensitive and easily triggered these days, so their sensibilities need protecting from the ugly world they live in.

    1. Fireview said on November 12, 2021 at 8:52 am
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      So you also want to remove the army and the police because the world is ugly anyway? Why would a few million annoying idiots be allowed to try to make the internet an ugly place for everyone? They usually last 5 years, or less. Why give them any relevance?

  16. Mystique said on November 12, 2021 at 1:48 pm
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    ?

  17. Mystique said on November 12, 2021 at 1:54 pm
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    Remove an often non confrontational dislike leaving the option to state your displeasure thus creating a bigger ruckus in the comments leaving the only option to ban users or delete comments or disable commenting on your videos which is also pretty much an admission of garbage.

    When dumb is dumb just give it the thumb.
    Google earns itself yet another thumbs down in its ratings.

  18. Tom Hawack said on November 12, 2021 at 3:05 pm
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    Personally I disable likes and dislikes the same, be it on YouTube or elsewhere most of the time. If I do state a degree of satisfaction/dissatisfaction it’ll only be with an argument, an explanation. I just can’t stand the ability to lay a star or more with NO explanation, as in Firefox AMO pages for instance.

    How to live with disliking likes?! Not that I hate lovers, be noted, lol. Well, you disable them with a script or even a simple style. When it comes to YouTube I moreover block the comments. Maybe should I emphasize on what I keep rather than what I disable/block when it comes to YouTube given the service is heavily tweaked, mainly with the ‘Unhook’ and ‘YouTube Popup Tamer’ Firefox extensions. Also, because YouTube consent is now unavoidable, I use the ‘Google Shut Up!’ userscript (available on GreasyFork) which sends a cookie consent on YouTube pages (as well as on Google, but Google services besides YouTube — for those i know — display correctly with cookies blocked for Google dot com whilst YouTube hard requires consent). I use FF’s ‘Cookie Autodelete’ as well which allows me to fine tune not only sites cookies to keep or not but as well which of a site’s cookie to keep : for instance for YouTube it’ll only be what was set by above-mentioned ‘Google Shut Up!’, which is the CONSENT cookie (all others, set by YouTube, are therefor thrown to garbage, as well as YouTube’s data in the user’s IndexedDB).

    I’m aware if there should be but one trace of my visits it’d be the main one : my IP (no VPN here, maybe Tor one day). Let’s put it this way : it’s not because you’re controlled that it should be with your smile.

    That’s about it, folks.

    1. Shiva said on November 12, 2021 at 4:24 pm
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      Yep, same here. NO explanation, NO interest.
      I currently use ‘Google\Youtube dismiss’ and ‘Login reminder popup remover’ on Greasyfork. ‘Temporary Containers’ and ‘MCookiesDisable’ as related extensions.

      Well, at least it never gets boring around here, it’s a full-time job. Tom, after I bought a smarthphone (I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe :-) ) I believe we are fighting a losing battle here based on the fact desktop users are on the verge of extinction.

      By joking I cited a couple of TV serials, but I recommend as a reading ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ by Shoshana Zuboff.

      1. Tom Hawacj said on November 12, 2021 at 5:49 pm
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        @Shiva, I *do* believe you’ve seen amazing things on that recently bought smartphone. Because not everything which is amazing is necessarily enviable explains why I avoid the smartphone era. A basic mobile is all I need and wish.

        I agree that PCs are on the decline, market share analysis all agree on that. But decline doesn’t mean extinction! I mean, hey!, let me hope!

        Surveillance capitalism is a fact, whatever one’s personal political aspirations. I consider it as a problem but not as an anti-capitalism argument. Surveillance itself has a long historical background and I admit that a whatever state-sponsored inquisition frightens me more than business tracking. Big Internet corporations, whatever their essential mistake in ignoring the dangers of imperialism (including for themselves) are not comparable to a former Stasi political police. That doesn’t mean I diminish the drama of surveillance capitalism (moreover when approved implicitly most of the time by administrations) but only that things have to be considered independently of personal dogmas.

      2. Shiva said on November 13, 2021 at 1:39 pm
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        @Tom H., I was still joking a little bit about the matter. For me it is already enough when a choice regarding an advertising ID (personal or generic) appears at the first setup of the smartphone. Not to mention when I reading delighted comments about apps with more than 30 trackers and unnecessary permissions on Aurora Store with Exodus reports, no one asks questions.
        You who can still avoid all this and moreover you don’t even think about it to switch to Windows 10, try to imagine yourself: you will begin to come into competition with Cliff Steele of Doom Patrol (WTF).

        I did not intend to speak of extinction in that sense, I refer more specifically to mobile vs desktop internet usage (and related browsers usage in both cases). I start to find surreal that we usually split hairs on desktop trying to defend ourselves against unfair practices and on the other side the same practices are the norm widely accepted.

        I think you are misunderstanding the title of the book a little. It does not concern capitalism in itself nor about a surveillance like Stasi political police. Summing up its more about all you try to avoid, behavior predictions, trading of our personal data, Cambridge Analytica,… A big tome on this new digital era waiting the ‘Metaverse’. A must for a french (liberté!). :-)

      3. Tom Hawack said on November 13, 2021 at 5:30 pm
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        @Shiva, there has always been surveillance, the one we deal with presently on the Web is called surveillance capitalism when in fact it should be named capitalistic surveillance in contrast with political surveillance, IMO.

        I haven’t read the book you mentioned, be noted. But ‘Surveillance capitalism’ exists independently : [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveillance_capitalism]

        Once we clarify the difference between political and capitalistic (economic) surveillance, I believe the latter is not insignificant on the ground it’d be less dramatic than the former, even if we can wonder what is worst : lack of liberty or manipulated liberty (am I free if my free choice is biased by manipulation and intoxication?). At least you remain physically free with economic surveillance.

        From there on, the facts, applied to us. We are many (even if a minority) to kick out tracking, wherever it be. Personally I can’t stand it. I’m not referring to being recognized, but tracked. In real life I don’t visit a shop dressed up once as a doctor, next day as a nurse, the day after as a patient… but I don’t want to have a sticker of a previous shop when I visit a next one, right? Same on the Web : I dislike obscurity, I love light and life, which is why I never change my pseudonym … within a given site, but I won’t keep the same from one place to another.

        Metaverse, virtual reality doesn’t excite me. The idea there is or would be a planetary digital community is perceived here as the ultimate tool for trackers. Metaverse is the next step indeed and a new and highly contribution to Big Data : will be tracked and analyzed far more than punctual decisions given a user under Metaverse, immersed in virtual reality, will tend to behave as in real life and each of his choices will be followed, each : this is actual Big Data ^100

        That’s life (“C’est la vie”), or is it? Computing is fascinating and worthy as long as it remains a tool, but it is not LIFE. I’ve even heard “virtual sex” being mentioned : do we realize how this world is getting insane? Then we shut down the PC and/or forget the smartphone, go outdoors for a promenade, hear the wind, listen to the birds, smell the fresh air, all under the clouds, sky : that is real life.

      4. Shiva said on November 13, 2021 at 8:06 pm
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        @Tom H., we worked it out. I simply misunderstood when you indroduced about anti-capitalism as an argument. It is not uncommon to hear false cries of pain and even funny accusations of communism when the legislator wants to regulate aspects concerning these matters.
        Let’s put aside surveillance state although it is intertwined surveillance capitalism, however both are also separate arguments not two options to choose one or the other.

        About the latter one, do you have a real choise to buy a product or service without telemetry or bloatware when you are facing a de facto monopoly or other competitors do the same? They even give them ‘free’, how much is our personal data worth? ‘If you don’t want you can not use it’ it is an argumentative fallacy in many cases. You already know that preinstalled software or default privacy settings when you subscribe may actually make a difference in their income.

        I’m not interested in a handful of people juggling extensions or scripts for a little privacy as long as possible, but the majority whose behaviors in this case affected everyone. If 2.8 billion people use Facebook for example, I ask myself the problem of how this company manages the comments. ‘If you want you can not use it’ it is a argumentative fallacy in many cases, how much a phenomenon has to be bigger before a legislative action without affecting economic freedom.

        Same goes for ‘dislike’ button. A little bit of rhetoric and well-placed words ‘We believe … (for your well-being)’ and you lost another piece of transparency. I can understand if they both hide them also considered their poor value, one is pure hypocrisy. Perhaps a little stupid in an optics of trust especially with political contents.

        ‘Metaverse, virtual reality doesn’t excite me.’
        There was no doubt. Not even to me. Another future headcache.

      5. Tom Hawack said on November 14, 2021 at 12:10 pm
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        @Shiva,

        At this point we’d be tackling political philosophy. I have no qualification nor legitimacy to answer but questions as always fix the context, hence philosophy vs. dogmas.

        Is interventionism related to communism? It can be, or be not.
        Is a government dedicated to interfere or should it be a simple regulatory body?
        Is democracy the best political system? It’d be the worst besides all others according to Winston Churchill.
        What is freedom, what is justice?
        Who, what is to decide where the border stands between my definition of justice and “your” definition of freedom?

        If we dig these questions we face the knot of squaring the circle.

        After questions, psychological and sociological facts.

        Our personal truths often diverge. When they gather groups arise and political structures follow.
        We then have a soup made up of an individual’s truth, a society’s melting of these truths and a political system aiming to wonder how to cook them all.

        If my personal truth doesn’t fit in that of a majority, what do I do?
        If a culture considers that cannibalism is their truth, what do I do about it?
        If I feel bad about a culture which eats dogs, what do I do about it?
        If tomorrow the country’s society where I live considers that shooting someone who robe you is legitimate, if a political regulation considers it is legal, what do I do about it?

        Democracy? With democracy abolition of the death penalty in France wouldn’t have been decided. Interventionism? I’d answer “no” because I’m against the death penalty, but what about if I were for its perpetuation?

        This is not a debate which can be held within a Twitter-like limited words, sentences, yes and nos.
        Personally when facing a dilemma between the law and my conscious, I tend to consider the conflict as the relation between legality and legitimacy and, according to a famous French lawyer, I should choose the latter. Or should I if anarchy is the lot of such a position? And is my conscious worth being considered as a worthy guide? Am I not shifting a mountain of personal truths, convictions, all in the brains towards what I’d define as my conscious, this area of a human being which would be independent to the point of wiping any other consideration?

        Squaring the circle. Maybe not enough but IMO required to narrow these questions : compassion and intellectual introspection. The advantage of the former is that it often goes ahead what the latter one day or another confirms.

      6. Shiva said on November 14, 2021 at 5:06 pm
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        @Tom H., I underscore everything that you wrote in this context. Just to clarify:

        – paying for a product or enabling users to make a choice when you encounter dominant positions for sure is not an anti-capitalist demand. On the contrary it is also a measure for the benefit of economic competition. There is no need to remember the browser war a long time ago (nobody seems to really care nowadays) or some attempts to put a band-aid at best like ‘N’ version for example

        – a legislative regulation as the GDPR is certainly not a dictatorial or still an anti-capitalistic intervention;

        – whether we like it or not at our own pride the fact is we are influenced and now predictable. Propaganda has always existed, but I resume the ‘^’ symbol you wrote above to get this straight in this times. Request more transparency or put down some red lines do not place any limitations to users. On the contrary, certainly is not me who arbitrarily manage other user’s post or make experiments hiding behind ‘Term of services’;

        If you open a restaurant you have to follow hygiene standards rules. These rules may be different between countries but the key is that you have requirements to be met. Well, at this point it seem fair ask ourself which standards has to be met in this new model of business based on our personal data with many potential dangerous implications. When there’s profit involved nothing is ‘free’ and I want to pay. It looks like an insult nowadays. :-)

        One time you cited DeGoogle, so I found this site:
        https://github.com/tycrek/degoogle

  19. Mystique said on November 12, 2021 at 4:00 pm
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    I really appreciate the comments here. That’s one of the things I miss here, the focus on extensions for browsers and improving the experience however one cannot blame anyone for that given the sorry state of browsers today but I digress.

    I do feel like the visible dislike button is important for example recently Nintendo received some of the most dislikes ever on one of their videos and it was justified. Having visible dislikes create a degree of accountability and often (but not always) indicates the quality of the video, it also created an opportunity for one to discuss why a video was disliked and give the opportunity to agree or disagree.

    I used to love the days of using userscripts such as Youtube Center and later youtube+
    These days there isn’t anything complete like that but there are some good individual scripts still being made for youtube.

    At the end of the day Youtube is becoming a terrible place for both viewers and content creators alike so…

    It’s easy for people to cry and claim review bombing when they absolutely do not want to accept accountability for their faults which is fairly common these days. Sadly none of this leads to any sort of improvement or innovation instead we just hand out ribbons for last place people so as not to hurt their feelings. There is a balanced middle ground but we just have to accept that not everyone is going to like you as I am sure I have a few people that despise me here and outside of the internet, such is life.

    Btw it is nice to see you Tom Hawack. I always appreciate your comments.

    1. Tom Hawack said on November 12, 2021 at 5:05 pm
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      Hello Mystique, nice to read you as well.

      I have in mind the last paragraph of your above comment. Indeed anonymity is the vector accountability refusal, an incentive to irresponsibility.

      As you state it there is indeed “a balanced middle ground but we just have to accept that not everyone is going to like you […]” : many of us cannot accept being disliked, maybe because felt as a defeat. We live in a world which is emphasizing success whilst omitting to consider what defeat is and how it can help us to improve ourselves.

      Defeat is certainly not in the fact of being disliked, be it ourselves or any of our achievements. Doesn’t mean “they’re wrong and I”m right” but rather is an invitation to ask ourselves, why? Requires introspection and honesty, which is not feasible for everyone but can be if a bit of rational thinking bypasses emotional guidance : the world has never been as emotional as it is now, and emotion replaces arguments when thoughts are unable to deliver a rational comment. Master-word here is education. On the other hand intellectualism may be as harmful when it disturbs emotion in a context where emotion is essential, such as in arts : I’ve seen/heard/read too many experts emphasizing on artistic analysis rather than on sharing their part of uneducated emotion. So I guess it all depends f the context.

      “Yes, you can” is maybe a great incentive for exercising will and determination but shouldn’t be perceived as an argument to succeed at any cost. Recent news, here in France anyway, describe girls being drugged in discotheques before being abused while unconscious. Dramatic isn’t it. Beyond this we have fellas who don’t know/want to charm a lady yet consider as a defeat a refusal which hasn’t even been built on their very own efforts to charm and seduce : the guy wants it, wants it now, and effortlessly : relevant of the way some of us deal with the world.

      Remains hope, but not, IMO, within the limits of sectarianism. When you — or I at least — think about it, the “love your enemies” dogma goes maybe further than morality, it is maybe the most intelligent approach to resolve relational problems. Not easy, though. At least not easy to be done sincerely.

  20. anonymous said on November 12, 2021 at 6:37 pm
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    This seems to be a totally political move by Google. Biden is getting a ton of dislikes.It is also well known that in the past Google has been tampering with the likes/dislikes as well as the view counts of videos on various topics especially flat earth ones.

    It must be cumbersome to constantly having to change the ratio of likes/dislikes on videos they want to promote or discourage from getting popular. Now with the removal of the view count of the dislike button, they can just focus on artificially adding fake likes to videos Google likes and they don’t have to constantly fight against the dislikes rising.

    This is kind of behavior is of course quite pervasive among the left outlets. it is why they tend to remove the comment section on articles being posted. People are pointing out the lies or errors in the articles. They are trying to control the narrative.

    Want to remove the appearance of popular videos? Remove the like button view count, Want to remove the appearance of unpopular videos? Remove the dislike button view counts.

    Alternative sites like Bitchute is the answer.

  21. Anonymous said on November 12, 2021 at 8:32 pm
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    Finally. 1 less tool for haters and trolls.

  22. Yash said on November 12, 2021 at 8:48 pm
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    Never used YouTube with Google account for no like-dislike. It prevents personalization.

    However I do rely on like to dislike ratio on a video at the start to decide whether to watch it or not.

    Well thanks Google for this change. My YouTube usage was already low ever since I switched to Newpipe. And this change will continue that. So a good change.

  23. nonanon said on November 13, 2021 at 2:33 am
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    This is what you idiots that voted for Biden did to us.

    Bidenflation.

    Trying to force people to choose between their jobs and an experimental mRNA “vaccine” that didn’t even go through animal trials with 170+ times the amount of severe side effects (including death) than the flu vaccine (which is not an mRNA vaccine, the flu vaccine is a traditional vaccine that’s been used for over a century).

    Voted in a senile president, because they are brain dead voters.

    Not to mention porting over the social credit score system from China and renaming it the vaccine passport system.

    SMH.

  24. Jossie Wails said on November 13, 2021 at 2:52 am
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    The motivation behind Youtube removing the down-votes is all related to their political agenda — call it what you will.
    They don’t need to remove the up-votes to squelch their opposition’s opinions being shown to be popular at any time, because they just ban or remove such content outright–done–no problem there.

    They needed to remove the down-votes because it’s the only way to hide the utterly visceral opposition to some of their sacred, preferred agenda positions.

    Kamala Harris and Joe Biden’s current popularity are so upside down that it’s scary embarrassing, just as a couple of examples.

    YouTube simply will not allow a pro vaccine video to be buried in millions upon millions of boos and down-votes. The up-loader can curate the comments, but those down-votes can be absolutely brutal. Anti vaccine videos never see the light of day there, so are moot by default.

    Google, Facebook, Twitter and their offshoots have assumed the roll of the government’s Ministry of Truth, and they’ll do whatever is necessary to portray themselves as credible.

    Truth be dammed…

  25. beemeup5 said on November 13, 2021 at 4:52 am
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    Many great Youtubers have made excellent videos against removing public dislikes:

    Marques Brownlee: Dear YouTube!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaaJyRvvaq8

    Louis Rossmann: Youtube removes dislike button because YOU’RE USING IT WRONG!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGjjbdczZ_8

    Mental Outlaw: Why I Dislike YouTube Removing Dislikes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX62w2rb7Hk

    Upper Echelon Gamers: Hide the Dislikes – Feelings over Quality
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOSLKToTJ6Q

    Linus Tech Tips: YouTube Made a Huge Mistake – WAN Show November 12, 2021
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9PcNrhiMUc

  26. Ray said on November 13, 2021 at 7:05 am
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    Removing a dislike button is not going to address racism or discrimination. Looks like putting make up on a pig. The pig is still there. :)

  27. DaveW said on December 1, 2021 at 3:36 pm
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    Simply leave a comment “dislike” – surely these won’t be filtered haha and then people will leave a code word for dislike like potato or any root vegetable or something

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