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Thunderbird 38.0.1 is a massive update for the email client

Development of the email client Thunderbird was more or less restricted to maintenance and security updates ever since Mozilla made the decision to use resources for other projects and move development into the hands of the community.

That was back in 2012 and while that did not really affect existing users as Thunderbird is more or less complete when it comes to all things email, it must have reflected badly on the overall perception of the client.

The release of Thunderbird 38.0.1 is the first massive update of the email client that introduces more than just bug fixes and security updates.

This guide looks at the major changes introduced in the new version.

Lightning Calendar is now integrated natively

thunderbird calendar

Probably the biggest change in Thunderbird 38.0.1 is the native integration of the popular calendar add-on Lightning.

You find it listed under "events and tasks" in Thunderbird's main menu bar. A click on it displays options to add events and tasks, open the Calendar and Task Manager, and perform various other calendar related activities.

Lightning is added to Thunderbird as an add-on. If you don't use the calendar functionality it provides, you may uninstall or disable it in the add-ons manager.

This is done in the following way:

  1. Select Tools > Add-ons from the main menu. If the menu is not displayed, hit the Alt-key first to display it.
  2. Locate the Lightning add-on in the add-ons manager and select disable or remove next to it.
  3. Disable turns it off so that it is not loaded while remove deletes the add-on from the system.

Yahoo Messenger support in Chat

yahoo

I never really used the chat functionality in Thunderbird even though it supports several popular chat services such as Facebook, XMPP, Twitter or Google Talk.

The most recent addition is Yahoo Messenger which you can connect to now as well.

  1. Select Tools > Chat Status > Show Accounts to bring up the list of supported chat protocols and services.
  2. There you find listed Yahoo. When you select it, you are asked to enter your username first and then on the next page the password.

Google OAuth 2 support

gmail oauth

Thunderbird supports Google's OAuth 2 authentication protocol in version 38.0.1. One of the benefits of that is that it is now easier to integrate Google accounts into the email client as it is no longer necessary to modify a setting in the account options of the Google account to get it to work with Thunderbird.

You can switch the authentication method for existing accounts in the account settings:

  1. Select Tools > Account Settings to open the account manager.
  2. Locate your Google account and select Server Settings underneath it.
  3. Locate authentication method and switch it to OAuth2.

Global Address Book Search

global search

Mozilla improved the global address search functionality in Thunderbird. While the client did support global search before using auto-complete functionality when you started to type addresses in to, bcc or cc fields in emails, it never really offered global search in other areas.

Sent Filter / Archived Filter

thunderbird outgoing filters

Candidate for a feature that took the longest to implement -- it was first filed in 1999 -- it allows you to apply filters to sent messages, for instance to move them to a different sent folder.

When you open the new filter dialog in the email client, you find new options listed there and one of them is to apply filters "after sending".

You may use it for a variety of purposes, for instance to move the message to a different send folder, to apply tags to it, or to delete it right away.

  1. Select Tools > Message Filters to open the filters manager in Thunderbird.
  2. Select the email account you want to create a new filter for, and hit new afterwards.
  3. In the dialog that opens, check "after sending".

The archived filter works pretty much the same way. Simply select "archiving" in the new filter dialog instead of "after sending" to use it.

Smaller fixes / bugs

Apart from those major changes, several bug fixes and minor changes went into Thunderbird 38.0.1.

  • Support Internationalized domain name URLs for RSS feeds.
  • Show expanded columns in folder pane.
  • Allow file-per-message (maildir) local message storage.
  • Add a Learn more link to the support page in feeds subscribe dialog.
  • Add reading position marker line to conversations.
  • The editor for twitter should show inputtable character count.
  • Thunderbird will no longer use SHA-1 to sign message.
  • Removed rarely used character sets: T.61-8bit, non-encoding Mac encoders, VISCII, x-viet-tcvn5712, x-viet-vps x-johab, ARMSCII8 , map us-ascii to windows-1252, ISO-8859-6-I and -E and ISO-8859-8-E.
  • Disable CONDSTORE support for IMAP to prevent discrepancies in IMAP message status (deleted, unread) on some servers
  • Make OpenSearch queries open in the user's default browser
  • Default to using SSL for XMPP and IRC. This might cause issues for self-signed certificates
  • Lots of bug fixes

Now You: Have you upgraded yet?

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Comments

  1. Frustrated said on June 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm
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    My Thunderbird on Win7 x64 shows 31.7.0 and says that is fully up to date. Were there versions between 31 and 38 that I am missing completely? It is almost impossible to determine what the prior versions of Thunderbird even existed.

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on June 12, 2015 at 5:07 pm
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      You are running a Thunderbird ESR release. Your version will be updated to 31.8.0 in the next release cycle first. You may however download Thunderbird directly and update your current version to the latest release.

      https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

    2. ChromeShine said on June 12, 2015 at 8:10 pm
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      You will be more frustrated once Lightning strikes!!! I have tried this once again, with the same results. Add my Google Calendar connection to Lightning and all I get is a jammed-up Thunderbird, which fails to open. Today it was OS X, but in the past, it was on Windows — same thing — killed Thunderbird. Beware of this, as you may have to reinstall T-Bird. Or use the option, on the bottom of the first screen when T-Bird opens to opt out of Calendar . Be careful!

      1. wayne said on June 14, 2015 at 5:51 pm
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        ChromeShine, it shouldn’t hang. Filed a bug?

    3. Rob said on October 12, 2015 at 4:13 pm
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      This update has been a disaster..

  2. Pete said on June 12, 2015 at 5:56 pm
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    Here’s the whole “changelog” of TB: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/releases/

    1. Pete said on June 12, 2015 at 6:14 pm
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      Though, I just noticed that it doesn’t list https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/31.7.0/releasenotes/ which I have too.. that releases page can’t be trusted then. :(

  3. Oxa said on June 12, 2015 at 6:31 pm
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    More misguided Mozilla bloatware. It’s an email client, not a Swiss Army knife.

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on June 13, 2015 at 12:43 am
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      Nope, Thunderbird is more than an email client. It has always (!) been an email client, feed reader, mainlinglist reader and newsgroup reader.

    2. Alex said on June 13, 2015 at 4:06 am
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      What’s cool about thunderbird is that it functions as a complete communications suite. I have a working business calendar with which I can invite clients to meetings, I have a working contact-sync via extension, and I have a Google Voice tab open via another extension. I don’t need to open a browser to handle these things, they’re all inside of one single communications suite. That’s the beauty of thunderbird. If you want a simple email client there are many of those…

      1. Oxa said on June 13, 2015 at 6:38 pm
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        Good for you. 99% of all users don’t need a working business calendar, don’t need to invite clients to meetings, don’t need to sync their contacts, and don’t need Google Voice. These should be addons. That would allow you to do what you want and unburden the remainder of users from bloatware.

    3. Dave said on June 13, 2015 at 1:38 pm
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      It’s a communication tool, so it is supposed to be a Swiss army knife. Firefox Hello should have been Thunderbird Hello.

    4. Near Sighted said on June 14, 2015 at 4:03 pm
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      I’m with you. I’m getting sick and tired of the tendency towards bloat. All I want is a light, fast and secure email client.

      1. wayne said on June 14, 2015 at 6:00 pm
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        Perhpas you might judge _after_ you see the update process? It is offered, but you can decline to keep it. It was carefully packaged in such a way that there is TOTAL user control.

        Calendar is offered in part because it is the most installed Addon – 10-15% of the user population, which is huge. And it is likely far more would use it if they know about it. I’m betting the user population will double.

    5. Mailman said on July 4, 2015 at 4:30 pm
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      Switched from Thunderbird to Opera Mail (standalone app now), and never looked back. I saw all these Thunderbird “improvements” listed up there and decided to give it another try just to see what’s changed. After half hour, switched back to Opera Mail. Super light email client, everything works as it should, it does what it’s made to do. Customization might not be going as far as it goes in TB, but at least everything is accessible from settings page, no need to play hacker through config editor and lose my mind figuring out what some of those parameters and values are for. Opera Mail just works and it might work for your needs too.

      1. Ben said on October 18, 2015 at 12:05 am
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        What do you do for calendar?

        I want to use Opera for work, but don’t see a calendar option, whereas TB has lightning.

  4. Daveb said on June 12, 2015 at 7:47 pm
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    I’m running it and it marks a few of my emails as JUNK (never before 38.0.1) and it won’t remember my un-marking them — BOOO!

  5. ChromeShine said on June 12, 2015 at 8:05 pm
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    Be careful. I tried this, WITH CALENDAR, and my Google Mail and Calendar acct. It killed the Thunderbird program. All I had was a spinning beach ball — yes on a Mac. I have tried Thunderbird in the past with Lightning with the exact same results — kills the email program. It just balls it all up to the point where you will never see the app running again. So beware of this. Try it on another PC and not your main one first, as it may kill the email client.

    They should pull this combo off the shelves before people have problems and no longer use the email client — the mail portion is fine.

    I may add that when I tried this in the past, it was with Windows — same effect – killed the program once Lightning was added.

  6. greg said on June 12, 2015 at 9:40 pm
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    Martin, does the update bring the ability to use Firefox’s Dark Theme?

    I love the Dark Theme and am dying to get it in Thunderbird as well.

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on June 13, 2015 at 7:30 am
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      No it does not as far as I know.

    2. wayne said on June 14, 2015 at 5:49 pm
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      I’ve used DeepDark. It’s not perfect, but it works reasonably well

  7. Sven said on June 12, 2015 at 10:24 pm
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    It’s a great email client, and Lightning is a great extension but they should keep it an extension. It’s the same nonsense as the Pocket integration in Firefox. And they should get rid of the crappy chat client instead of wasting time for it, with clients like Pidgin nobody really needs that. And congrats to Mozilla for getting send filters working on ONLY 16 years…

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on June 13, 2015 at 11:22 am
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      Lightning is still an extension. And most of the backend code for the chat is already in “comm-central”, the codebase of Thunderbird, Lightning, SeaMonkey and Instantbird. Instantbird is a messaging application. The chat integration in Thunderbird is a integration of the Instantbird backend + a frontend for Thunderbird.

      1. Sven said on June 13, 2015 at 5:10 pm
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        And? Doesn’t make anything better.

      2. Sören Hentzschel said on June 13, 2015 at 5:31 pm
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        Please explain why not.

  8. Alex said on June 12, 2015 at 10:43 pm
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    Now they should focus in improving a little the UI. They could use something like the addon conversations, or try something like geary for the way to read emails.

  9. greg said on June 13, 2015 at 12:13 am
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    Martin, does v38 allow about:config configuration for using Firefox’s Dark Theme?

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on June 13, 2015 at 7:27 am
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      No it does not support the preference.

      1. Ken Saunders said on June 13, 2015 at 8:08 am
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        TT DeepDark (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/tt-deepdark) is a nice dark theme for Thunderbird.
        Unfortunately, it hasn’t been updated for Thunderbird 38 and can’t be installed unless you change the “maxVersion” from 33.* to 38.* (or higher).
        If you don’t know how to do that, and don’t want to wait for the theme to be updated, one of us here can tell you how to change it.

  10. David Winter said on June 13, 2015 at 4:21 am
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    Still slow as hell. I have 50 IMAP folders with 55k messages and Thunderbird takes minutes to sync these. “Smart Search” folders are crawling slow. I find Thunderbird unusable for “power users”. Its nice for people with a simple Gmail inbox, sure. Anything a bit more complex its way too sluggish for.

  11. Anonymous said on June 13, 2015 at 4:57 am
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    Unfortunately, Mozilla Thunderbird:
    1. Does not have official support of the native 64-bit version for Microsoft Windows;
    2. Has a limit of ~4GB for mail file, instead of the limit imposed by the operating system;
    3. The default Address Book (contact management) needs improvement:
    a. Contact category field required: Categories (without the need for MOREFUNCTIONSFORADDRESSBOOK extension from https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html)
    b. There are no different options for viewing contacts in the Address Book, eg Business Card (with photo of contact), by Category. Ideas have been suggested on Thunderbird Ensemble https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841598
    c. Storing multiple mobile telephone numbers for one contact
    However, Mozilla Thunderbird is still quite capable has a bright future as on 31 June 2014 Kent James (Chair of the Thunderbird Council) wrote “Thunderbird should be a full-featured desktop personal information management system, incorporating messaging, calendar, and contacts. We need to incorporate the calendaring component (Lightning) by default, and drastically improve contact management.” (http://mesquilla.com/2014/07/31/thunderbirds-future-the-tldr-version/).

    1. Dave said on June 13, 2015 at 1:44 pm
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      I read your first two points thinking “no-one cares” and stopped. I bet everyone else did the same.

      1. Pete said on June 13, 2015 at 2:41 pm
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        Stop trolling, get a life.

    2. wayne said on June 14, 2015 at 6:24 pm
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      Unfortunately, Anonymous, you seem to be poorly informed in some areas….

      > Unfortunately, Mozilla Thunderbird:
      > 1. Does not have official support of the native 64-bit version for Microsoft Windows;

      You seem to be implying that a) there is a benifit and b) that it is being ignored. I haven’t met anyone yet that would benifit. And there are no significant performance benefits. How will 64-bit help you?

      That said, 64-bit is not being ignored. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634233 lays out the work. But it also depens on Firefox first officially supporting it, as the hierarchy for bug 634233 describes well.

      > 2. Has a limit of ~4GB for mail file, instead of the limit imposed by the operating system

      You haven’t tried or tested or helped develop maildir?

      > 3. The default Address Book (contact management) needs improvement:
      > a. Contact category field required: Categories (without the need for
      > MOREFUNCTIONSFORADDRESSBOOK extension from
      > https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html)
      > b. There are no different options for viewing contacts in the Address Book, eg Business Card (with
      > photo of contact), by Category. Ideas have been suggested on Thunderbird Ensemble
      > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841598
      > c. Storing multiple mobile telephone numbers for one contact

      Yes, these are well known great needs. As are developers to impliment them

      However, Mozilla Thunderbird is still quite capable has a bright future as on 31 June 2014 Kent James (Chair of the Thunderbird Council) wrote
      > “Thunderbird should be a full-featured desktop personal information
      > management system, incorporating messaging, calendar, and contacts. We
      > need to incorporate the calendaring component (Lightning) by default,
      > and drastically improve contact management.”
      > (http://mesquilla.com/2014/07/31/thunderbirds-future-the-tldr-version/).

    3. Doc said on June 15, 2015 at 6:51 pm
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      “…as on 31 June 2014 Kent James…”

      June has 30 days, not 31. Whoops.

  12. Ken Saunders said on June 13, 2015 at 7:56 am
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    Thanks Martin!

    Some Thunderbird related links in response to some of the comments here and also for anyone interested in becoming a Thunderbird contributor.

    Official Support Page:
    https://support.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird

    Community Support (Ask a Question):
    https://support.mozilla.org/questions/new/thunderbird/other/form?

    Thunderbird Support (mozillazine.org)
    http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39

    Add-ons:
    https://addons.mozilla.org//thunderbird

    Become a volunteer:
    (Get Involved)
    https://www.mozilla.org/contribute

    Bug Reporting:
    Create an account.
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/createaccount.cgi
    Bug writing guidelines
    https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines
    File a Bug
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi#h=bugForm|Thunderbird

    1. wayne said on June 14, 2015 at 6:03 pm
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      https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird#Contributing is much more useful than the generic mozilla site.

  13. Seban said on June 13, 2015 at 10:15 am
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    I’d like to move the RSS Feeds from Thunderbird to QuiteRSS. Unfortunately Thunderbird’s export function only seems to export which feeds I subscribed to, not which feed articles are stored within Thunderbird. So when I import into QuiteRSS only the newest articles per feed are loaded.

    Does someone know a way to import exactly the articles currently stored in Thunderbird?

    To those having problems after the update (and anyone else basically), think about backing up your data beforehand next time. I like Thundersave, another tool is MozBackup.

    1. Nebulus said on June 13, 2015 at 3:42 pm
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      No, unfortunately I don’t think there is any tool for migrating RSS feeds between Thunderbird and QuiteRSS…

  14. Pete said on June 13, 2015 at 1:34 pm
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    “Probably the biggest change in Thunderbird 38.0.1 is the native integration of the popular calendar add-on Lightning.
    You find it listed under “events and tasks” in Thunderbird’s main menu bar.”

    Well, I just updated and it’s not installed at all. No addon, no “events and tasks” menu! Great. Did my update go wrong somehow? I wonder what else went wrong in the update. God damn it, nothing ever works as it should.. I’m turning into a luddite, I’m starting to hate all computer stuff.. what next? My fridge crashes daily and needs rebooting? I’m really worried about the future with our level of making “quality” products/services/code/whatever.

    1. Nebulus said on June 13, 2015 at 3:44 pm
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      Your fridge might even get hacked if the “Internet of Things” trend continues on the same path :)

    2. Peter said on June 14, 2015 at 12:16 am
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      Same-thing happened to me, but after closing the program and restarting it all was good with ‘Events and Tasks’ showing in the menu bar.

    3. jfjb said on June 15, 2015 at 2:13 pm
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      same thing here on Win7, no integrated Lightning after updating from 31.7.0 with the add-on… reverted withing minutes to previous version and the extension showed up and worked as before
      same comment about Firefox, in regards to “integration” or “addition” of this or that, not needed… the extension IS flexible, removable, etc… I understand the benefits of merging common code but that is not the point for users who only see bloat
      hello, Mozilla!?! that was my one cent, penny, kopek, centime, pfennig

      JFJB

  15. Pete said on June 13, 2015 at 1:42 pm
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    I just noticed that if you want to use OAuth 2 for e.g. google account, you need to enable cookies in TB. Stupid. Why would I want to enable cookies in an email application?!

    EDIT: I tried with cookies and now google sent me an email “New sign-in from” and tells me that my account was used to sign in from my MOBILE PHONE. No, that’s not correct, using my laptop with different net access (not using mobile web connection). Jeezus, like I said in above message, nothing seems to work correctly. What a crap system google has.

    EDIT2: Checked google account “Recently used devices” and google thinks that my laptop is my mobile phone. Additionally there’s only my tablet listed. Nothing else. Pile of excrement.

  16. Patrick said on June 13, 2015 at 7:35 pm
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    I have several e-mail providers and TB keeps asking me for my e-mail provider passwords, over and over again. Why couldn’t they just leave things alone or fix their password manager before releasing a new version.

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on June 13, 2015 at 7:43 pm
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      I have more than 10 accounts in Thunderbird and no problems with the passwort manager, so I don’t think there is a genal problem with the passwort manager. If you think Thunderbird has a bug, please file a ticket: bugzilla.mozilla.org. ;)

  17. Sta... said on June 14, 2015 at 8:13 am
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    On reading this article, I checked my version. About > Help said it wanted to upgrade to Version 38.0.1, so I clicked it to do so. A bit later it was downloaded and I told it to go ahead and install.

    It’s pretty much the same. The install did NOT include Lightning, there is no “Events and Tasks” on the Menu Bar, and Lightning is not shown in Add-Ons (this is a Good Thing). The changes to filtering and Global Address Book Search are there, as is the one for Chat (which I don’t use). “Peter” wrote that “…after closing the program and restarting it all was good with ‘Events and Tasks’ showing in the menu bar.” I guess I got lucky that in my case it’s still not there after closing and restarting.

    1. Pete said on June 14, 2015 at 12:58 pm
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      I’ve restarted many times after the update and the calendar is still not there. So the update is somehow borked.

  18. ChromeShine said on June 14, 2015 at 10:46 pm
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    Has anyone here successfully used Thunderbird with Calendar linked to their Google Calendar service? It may be the repeating events or something, but over the last few years, I have never been able to sync with Google Calendar. It simply kills my Thunderbird. The latest rendition is quite the same — you can not do a thing with the Thunderbird — shows busy, then non-responding.

    It could be that unlinked Thunderbird users will not have an issue.

  19. Gurmeet said on June 15, 2015 at 7:41 pm
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    oh this is such a good update. its now less buggy than previously. Thank you for sharing

  20. JC said on June 16, 2015 at 12:13 pm
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    Where did ‘reply all’ go? I really don’t want to have to find 30 emails in my address book to respond to a work email with a large amount of cc-ed recipients…

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on June 16, 2015 at 12:24 pm
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      Still there in the version that I’m using. Maybe an extension that interferes?

    2. JC said on June 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm
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      OK, I changed the toolbar to ‘default’, and then smart reply showed up again, which includes ‘reply all’.

      Fixed. Sorry for the hassle! :-)

      1. JC said on June 19, 2015 at 11:52 am
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        Nope, it was back again after a few reboots. The smart reply button was just a single reply again. No option for reply all.

    3. Ken Saunders said on June 20, 2015 at 7:32 pm
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      That’s an odd issue.
      Do you use add-ons?
      As Martin said, perhaps one of them is causing the problem.

      The “Chosen solution” isn’t a fix, but it may be helpful.
      Especially this line.
      “If you right click a message subject line it [reply all] will be in that menu. ”
      https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1050692

      If anything, you could request help while you’re there.

  21. Stefano said on June 18, 2015 at 2:15 pm
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    Sorry to say, but the latest version of Thunderbird (38.0.1) is full of bugs… or maybe it is just a serious one. The system, on Windows 7 Pro, is very unstable: there are screen refresh problems, printing problems, connection problems, spell checker problems, etc. and all this is intermittent, which means one cannot replicate it on purpose. I really hope Mozilla comes up with a quick fix or in the worse case with a roll-back.

    1. Keith said on July 9, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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      I’m also seeing serious screen refresh problems on Windows 7 Home Premium after the upgrade.

      1. wayne said on July 11, 2015 at 2:43 pm
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        If you see any screen issues such as slowness or other rendering issues please file a bug report with the graphics information section from Help | Troubleshooting. Thanks

  22. Sta... said on June 19, 2015 at 9:06 am
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    The latest version of Thunderbird (38.0.1) is full of bugs? Not here!

    It actually cleared up two very minor issues it had for me:
    1. It used to not autocomplete addresses properly, and sometimes the address showed up in red after autocompleting. (When an address is in red, it means that it’s not in the Address Book. BUT, autocompleting uses the Address Book!)
    2. Sometimes TB would crash when a mail link in another program was clicked on (which should open a new message addressed to whatever is in that link).

    Thunderbird works just as it should. I use it to manage 6 email accounts and have almost 1000 folders.

    1. Stefano said on June 19, 2015 at 9:33 am
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      I’m glad it works for you, perhaps my problems are related to some conflicting applications that share the same pc. On the other hand I would not say that “TB works just as it should” after you said that “TB sometimes crashes…”. A properly tested piece of software should never crash, otherwise I don’t think you would ever drive your car or take a plane, just to name a few examples, both highly software-dependent.

  23. Sta... said on June 20, 2015 at 8:41 am
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    Before I said “TB works just as it should” and “TB sometimes crashes…”, I said “It (the update) actually cleared up two very minor issues it had for me.” The crashing was maybe one outta every 8 or 10 times I clicked on a link for a new message. It was a minor annoyance as it was a rare occurrence, and TB always opened back up ok.

    And as far as it being a “properly tested piece of software”, it IS open source (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source) and depends a lot on community involvement.

    I’d venture to say it works more reliably than most products that come from that other *very big* software company in Redmond, Washington. Lets all be glad airliners don’t run on Windows.

  24. Shige said on June 28, 2015 at 3:36 pm
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    I have updated to TB 38.0.1 (Japanese version) on Win 8.1 64b.

    Problem #1: Now, I need to use TB’s safe mode to send emails.

    Problem #2: I also note that there is no pull-down “Events and Tasks” menu between the Message and Tools menus in my TB 38.0.1.

    Problem #3: Although the Lightning 4.0.0.1 add-on is on, I can not see or access to Lightning.

    I consider that the new version is not very useful for me. I hope someone could help me on these issues.

    1. wayne said on June 28, 2015 at 6:39 pm
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      Probably best for you to ask about problems at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/thunderbird

      > Problem #1: Now, I need to use TB’s safe mode to send emails.
      What happens/what do you when THunderbird is not in safe mode?

      > Problem #2: I also note that there is no pull-down “Events and Tasks” menu between the Message and Tools menus in my TB 38.0.1.
      > Problem #3: Although the Lightning 4.0.0.1 add-on is on, I can not see or access to Lightning.

      Does Lightning 4.0.0.1 show as being enabled at Tools | Addons?

  25. Davidi Bergin Brown said on June 28, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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    I DO have this latest version of TB, but it STILL often shows the address in red, after auto-completing it from my address book. How to fix?

  26. Martin van Boven said on July 1, 2015 at 9:35 am
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    Thanks for the update.

    FYI, one thing: It took me half an hour to find out about the folder columns.
    Your instructions point to a View -> Layout location for this.
    I have the menu bar normally disabled, and access menu bar items via the weird trendy mobile phone three horizontal stripes thingie.
    The option was NOT there under View.

    I finally found out that it was (only) available under the menu bar View item. *bug*
    *bug*
    And with that I found the much bigger bug that the menu bar items are not synchronised with the menu bar entries also available under the weird trendy mobile phone three horizontal stripes thingie.
    For example, the whole Edit menu is even missing there.
    *BUG*

    Cheers,
    Martin

  27. Mike said on July 17, 2015 at 1:43 am
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    Hi Martin,

    I upgraded Thunderbird today and now my email is hung up … I can send to my phone but I can’t send to other accounts on my computer nor can I receive emails …

    Which ever account I check on shows the same message on the bottom left of Thunderbird – Checking email server capabilities

    How to fix this? I’m not an IT guy

    Help please

    1. Mike said on July 17, 2015 at 3:21 am
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      never mind … found a previous version on my hard drive and re-installed it

  28. Matthew Wright said on July 17, 2015 at 10:42 am
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    Hi, I just want to say thank you for a fantastic piece of FREE software.
    It is simply amazing.
    I love Lightning, and I am very, very glad for this major update and commitment to continued support.
    Thank you again.
    Matt

  29. jeff b. said on July 18, 2015 at 6:17 pm
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    I installed this and added the lightening add-on the same day and it works great for calendaring and responding to outlook generated meeting invites.

    On the negative side, something must have changed in the graphics interface because I am now having screen update problems and have to minimize and restore my window often to see what I am typing.

    1. ChromeShine said on July 20, 2015 at 5:38 am
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      Every time I have tried using Lightning, as in year after year, all that happens once connected to my Google Calendar, is an overload of data and the whole Thunderbird will not respond. I am throwing in the towel on this one — knocked me out one too many times. I assume that Lightning will never work now.

    2. jeff b. said on August 18, 2015 at 10:59 pm
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      38.2.0 fixed the problem I was having with the graphics

  30. Barb said on July 24, 2015 at 12:32 pm
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    Hi, Do you hand this feedback over to Thunderbird?
    I keep getting continual requests for my passwords everytime I open my Thunderbird email plus Everytime I want to send something, it asks me for a password. This is constant throughout the day. I tend to ignore them and close the request boxes down and my mail still gets downloaded, but on several occasions where I have ignored them my mail is withheld, so it is pretty erratic!
    I’ve had countless remote support attempts to fix it from my ISP and also exterior engineers in to fix the problem, which they fix but only temporarily as it soon returns.. It may be connected to some games I play but why should it? – It’s never happened in all the years I’ve used it until the last version or / last two versions of TB were installed?
    I also can’t more or delete some folders I make in the left hand menu so if I want to delet one – I have to ‘store’ it in my deleted folder? How weird is that?

    On my version 30.10 would Thunderbird be able to move the ‘Delete’ button that is under my inbox list – Back over to the extreme right again where it was before? That space is now occupied by the new ‘More’ button which I keep pressing in error. Very frustrating to have stuff moved about!

  31. wayne said on July 24, 2015 at 4:06 pm
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    > Hi, Do you hand this feedback over to Thunderbird?

    Please do not assume anyone will ever forward what you want. Please post it in the appropriate location
    – How to use, and ask support questions http://support.mozilla.org/
    – valid bugs https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird that do not reproduce in safe mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/safe-mode

  32. Peter Breet said on August 31, 2015 at 1:38 am
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    This release does not allow any kind of default address book. Now most of the time (but not all…) I open a composition window, ALL of my email contacts from all address books are shown, then I have to manually select “Personal Address Book”, which works for that message only, the next message… all contacts from all address books are shown. Now good. I reverted to an earlier version.

  33. Barbara said on September 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm
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    I just want an email service! It tells me that it doesn’t have my password, it is slow to the point of being ridiculous, and when I type it can’t keep up (not very fast really!). I am tired of this. Does anyone have suggestions for what I can use instead?

    1. Geo said on September 16, 2015 at 6:16 pm
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      I tried v 38 today , Its bloated and slow. It took 15 seconds just to check for email. The old version
      does it in a second or 2. Went back to previous version, all is good.

      1. Barbara said on September 18, 2015 at 5:15 pm
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        I just use this to pick up my email. I have no idea how to “go back” to the last version. Could you give me a simple set of instructions to do that? I would really appreciate that, or link me to a place that explains it. Thanks.

  34. darkfader said on October 13, 2015 at 2:04 pm
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    I know how to do pop, smtp, imap, and their ssl variants via telnet and openssl.
    Yet the email setup dialog of thunderbird makes me want to kill myself.

    IF YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF PRODUCING GOOD UX, DON’T TRY IT ANYWAY, ASK SOMEONE.

    They should go become gardeners or whatever.

    1. Barbara said on October 13, 2015 at 4:31 pm
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      I just went to a new email server, just not worth the work that it was taking to “figure out”.

      1. Pissed Off said on December 15, 2015 at 1:51 am
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        Hey Barbara,
        Which email server are you using? I’m over Thunderbird and the monumental amount of time it takes to figure things out. I’ve been a long time TB user, but after this last computer crash, I’m done. It’s hell trying to get my email back! Once I get it (I have to pay someone), I’m never using it again.

  35. Tom P said on February 18, 2016 at 1:41 am
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    I just want someone to tell me how to stop getting those extremely annoying pop-ups telling me to update to Thunderbird 38.0. I don’t want it. I had it, but went back to older version. Help!!

    –Tom P

  36. Stan said on February 18, 2016 at 9:14 am
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    To have TB NOT check for updates: from the hamburger menu, go to Options > Options > Advanced > Update
    and make sure the only option ticked is the one that says: Never check for updates (Not recommended: security risk).

    You can also get to Options by hitting F10 and when the Menu Bar appears, go to Tools > Options (and then Advanced > Update).

    If you want the Menu Bar to stay there, hit F10 and go to View > Toolbars, and ‘check’ Menu Bar.

  37. Ben said on June 29, 2016 at 4:25 pm
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    This new update was forced on me just like Windows 10!

    My big problem is that all of my security options (i.e. TB blocking remote content) from people that e-mail me are ALL GONE! Now I have to AGAIN manually select if I want an e-mail to show images and all the different servers that stuff comes from etc and I HAD this all done before!

    How do I get the old version back? This is a HUGE waste of time, that I don’t have!

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