Windows 10 KB5020683 update displays Windows 11 upgrade prompt
Microsoft released the out-of-band update KB5020683 for Windows 10 version 2004 and later that introduces an prompt during the out-of-box (OOBE) experience to update to Windows 11. The update applies to the following Windows 10 versions: 2004, 20H2, 21H1, 21H2 and 22H2.
The update is installed automatically on devices during the Out of Box Experience. During the process, Windows downloads critical driver updates and zero-day patches automatically, if a network connection is available.
Windows 10 administrators see the "The next version of Windows is here" screen during the OOBE process if the device meets certain requirements. First, the OOBE is only displayed if a new version of Windows is available, e.g., if Windows 10 version 22H1 is installed on a device. In that case, Windows 10 version 22H2 is available. The entire process applies only to consumer editions of Windows 10, in this case, Windows 10 Home and Pro.
Windows 11 is only offered during the process if the device is connected to a network during the OOBE process and if the device is compatible with the new operating system. If all three requirements are met, Windows 11 is offered on the device.
The next version of Windows is here screen is displayed at the end of the OOBE process. The screen that is shown displays the upgrade size and screenshots of Windows 10 and 11.
The "upgrade to Windows 11" button is displayed prominently on the screen. As usual, there is no "no thanks" button. Administrators who do not want the device to be upgraded need to select "remind me later" to skip the offer. The upgrade offer to Windows 11 is displayed in the Settings application in that case. There is also a "see what's new and different" link that highlights changes in Windows 11.
Administrators who activate the upgrade button start the process. Windows starts downloading the required Windows 11 files to perform the upgrade on the device. Windows displays a message when the upgrade is ready for installation.
The usage share of Microsoft's Windows 11 operating system is climbing. Statcounter, for instance, recorded a usage share of 16.13% in November 2022 for Windows 11 and a usage share of 69.75% for Windows 10. It is interesting to note that Windows 7's usage share is not far behind the usage share of Windows 11. It was at 10.25% according to Statcounter in November 2022.
The new upgrade offer will certainly improve the usage share of Windows 11. There is still a sizeable number of devices that are not compatible with Windows 11. Microsoft never revealed how many Windows devices are not compatible with Windows 11 though.
Now You: do you use Windows 11 already, or plan to?
Will definitely give the W11 LTSC a try when it gets out. For now, W10 LTSC 21h2 is pretty much perfect.
I was using winbugs 10 iot LGTBi. It worked perfect.
But, I bought a new pc and decided to try winbugs11 iot.
I regret it, but i’m too lazy to install everything again.
More bloatware than useful features.
So it’s begun… the slow invasion.
Same tactics pushing Win10 through Win7 updates. Curiously there was no such tactics for pushing 7 through Vista or XP. People wanted Windows 7 and they went out of their way to buy it. The sales fervor for 7 was like the second coming of Windows 95. Sadly with the direction Micro$oft is headed I fear lightning won’t strike a third time.
Can I have full size taskbar buttons in W11 yet? No? Then I’m not interested.
Notice the options are “See what’s new and different”, “Remind me later”, and “Upgrade to Windows 11”. There’s no option for, “No, I don’t want it; don’t bother me again.”
No interest in going from 10 Pro to 11. It offers me nothing I need or want.
What a clown show that Microsoft refers to it as a “Out-of-band update”. That term has usually been reserved for security updates or critical issues, NOT something trivial as a OOBE process.
Luckily, my CPU is not “compatible” so I’ll never get such annoyance.
I am sticking with Windows 10 because I am starting to think that Windows 11 is the leap version of Windows. Like so many releases/times before. Usually, there is a reasonably good version and then another debris bucket arrives.
Where is the stability, where are the bug-free programs, where is the stable Android experience where I can work with Android on windows 11, etc?
Your right, They are like hit and miss every other version of Windows.
I am sticking with Window 10 Pro.
Win11 is a shit OS for gamers.
W11 taskbar is the hell. I think it was made by an ex girlfriend of a W10 user. Of by his mom. Or by his dog.
Worse – it was made by a committee
I just setup an HP all-in-one computer for my boss. It came with the original Windows 11 on it. Within a couple of days of starting setup it updated to 22H2 and all hell broke lose. First it was crashing daily and when I started to investigate I got 4 blue screen of death crashes in 2 hours. Needless to say Windows 11 has left a bad taste in my mouth. I did eventually get the BIOS updated and the drivers and finally the crashes have calmed down. That’s not to say all is well. It still restarts at times which I suspect is a thermal issue. With Windows 10 the issues were just easier to deal with. Microsoft has really doubles down on the engineers creed; if it isn’t broke make it better (or in this case worse depending on your opinion)…
I bought a Linux laptop just to be able to print in the WiFi printer of my university. W11 was complete unable to print when I want. I almost got mad with this random issue. W10 and MacOS didn’t have the issue, neither Ubuntu. Just impossible to explain.
Sorry to hear that Leland. I hate windows 11 as much as the next person but honestly you were doomed from the start when your boss decided to buy an HP all-in-one. A work colleague decided he would buy one also against my advice… it’s now gathering dust in the corner as it was trouble from day one but didn’t want to admit it because of his pride and also he was in somewhat of a denial. It became and out of sight out of mind thing.
You’re entire system shouldn’t become that unstable though. I imagine HP support was also less than useless too.
At the end of the day Windows 11 is garbage and likely always will be because they appear to be compounding the problems and not fixing the problems they do have.
Thanks Mystique. Yeah HP support is not very supportive; in the end self support tracking down the support files was the key. If I had my way we would never buy another HP machine but in the end it isn’t my money so I can only support it the best I can. At least I was able to make it usable after a couple days of head banging.
If MS really wanted to push Win 11, it should remove its ridiculous requirements (e.g. the TPM module), and just let anyone upgrade to it for free.
Anyone; as in anyone running XP, Vista, 7, 8, or 10.
A warning about dual-core CPU, 4 GB memory and 64 GB storage is fine, but otherwise, just make the upgrade freely available to as many people as possible.
Hell, no. Windows 11 is a POS. Many of our customers find it terribly confusing and a pain to find simple things they were used to. They also have tons of compatibility problems, networking issues, and more. Many of them have been better off switching to Linux, quite honestly.
So if I hit the remind me later button, my 21h1 will update to 21h2? If not, then where can I get 21h2 update?
You will get W10 22H2, as this is the latest. If you want 21H2, you need to set the target release to it. An easy way to do that is to use the InControl freeware: https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/16/take-control-of-windows-updating-and-upgrading-with-incontrol/
Microsoft’s Windows 11 operating system is awful. It has a host of problems and shortcomings that make using it tedious and disappointing for consumers. Windows 11’s slow speed is one of its greatest issues because of the bloated glitchy XAML language it employs. Windows 11 not only performs poorly, but it also lacks a lot of the features and functionality that consumers have grown accustomed to from a contemporary operating system. Last but not least, Windows 11’s dark patterns are intended to attract users’ attention away from what they are doing on their computer and convince them to subscribe to Microsoft’s subpar online services.
Windows 11 is a bad operating system all around and provides little benefit to consumers. It’s a stressful and unsatisfactory experience because of its subpar performance and limitation of features. Windows 11 is large, challenging to use, and incompatible with hardware that is more than two years old. It would be wiser for users to continue with an earlier version of Windows or look into alternative operating systems. Microsoft is now run by incompetent fools.
“The usage share of Microsoft’s Windows 11 operating system is climbing”
The only reason why it’s slowly climbing is because you literally have no choice for any new PC or laptop over the last 1.5 years. MS requires W11 since its debut.
It would be more telling statistic to see how many existing W10 pcs / users have upgraded — if tney even can– to W11. I think analysts and marketeers underestimate how many existing PCs do not meet the requirements. Certainly MS with big OEM partners would be pushing for all new machines and currently cheap prices, one of the few things unaffected by inflation due to number of other compensating factors, just to get people into W11, since that’s the only way.
The biggest downside for me is the recent change they made to the W11 Pro version that requires always logging in with a MS account. Yes I know there are some hacks to get around that, but it’s likely MS will patch those holes later. Only enterprise and domain connected clients will be spared the online account login requirements.
I don’t think people realize just how precarious requiring your computer be dependent on your MS account is. I have one W10 pro machine with a MS account login and will in the future once I clean it up reformat and reinstall without the online login. That’s because I had a bad experience already of being locked out of my MS account!! I was using it for remote automated email sending via my outlook email, which is used for the MS account, and while it had worked for some time, they must have changed policies or spam detection procedures as their system automatically thought I was abusing their account and locked me out!!
There are also several cases of people being entirely locked out due to having their Xbox accounts — which could be connected to their MS accounts, like mine is — due to flagging for online “abuse” whether justified or not (basically name calling, trolling, etc) and that’s also another avenue to potential problems of this online account requirement for W11.
Windows is a shadow of its former self. At this point it would be better for Microsoft to open the source for the consumer end version and develop the corporate version which just focuses on those needs also thus pleasing everyone in the process and establishing a deeper connection with both the corporate and home user.
I pretty much agree with what people are saying here and totally agree.
I have been trying to help (same colleague as above) with his new computer but he insisted upon installing windows 11, his rationale behind that was that his family members bought a laptop with windows 11 preinstalled so he wanted consistency to help his daughter learn. I grit my teeth and said okay but deep down I wanted him to go with Windows 10 pro or Windows 10 LTSC.
Windows 11 is not what people are crying over. I am in I.T. and had to upgrade 100’s of machines from windows 7 to Windows 10. And now 11. Personally, nothing is wrong with it. Most bugs are manufactured related issues. My Wife has a Dell 2 in 1 PC with 10th generation iCore3 and windows 11 crashed upgrading to 22h2. When Dell and Microsoft get there crap together, I might try it again. Taskbars are so old school. And filling them up just eats your memory. As for using it at work, active directory works fine, and remote desktop to access our servers is fine. Deleting bloatware is easy if you know what you are doing. My aging surface pro 3 with 6th generation iCore 7 runs (Insider Preview) just fine. It runs faster then it did on Windows 8 and 10. I just don’t believe all the negative comments about it when I have been using it before it was even released.
I just try to install new w10 pro (
Released 2022/12).But that is not show on the display yet. Anyone saw?