Why I consider buying a Surface Pro 2 when it comes out
Microsoft has announced a refresh of the company's Surface series today. The Surface 2 is the successor of the Surface RT device running Windows RT, and the Surface Pro 2 the successor of the Surface Pro.
I do not want to talk a lot about the Surface 2, but some things need to be addressed. It features a faster processor, longer battery life, a better camera, an updated screen and the new kickstand that all Surface 2 devices ship with. It starts at $449 and is of no interest to me, as it is running Windows RT.
Windows RT, for those of you who have not come in contact with Windows 8 yet, is that crippled version of the operating system that runs only apps and no legacy desktop software. So, if you want desktop software to run, you cannot really use it at all.
It may have its appeal for an audience that likes to get a tablet device that they can also do light Office editing and such with. The Surface 2 may be ideal for them as it ships with Microsoft Office RT included.
The Surface Pro 2
All major changes are under the hood or come in form of accessories. I liked the original Surface Pro but decided against it in the end because of the device's battery life. It was just too weak and would not take you through a whole work day without recharging.
The Surface Pro 2 comes with Intel's new Haswell chip that is less power hungry than the Surface Pro's processor. The new chip, and improvements to drivers and firmware have improved battery life of the device significantly. Sources suggest it can be anywhere from 60% to 75% more than what the original Surface Pro offered, but we have to wait until first independent benchmarks are posted before we know exactly how much better the battery life is.
There is one accessory that Microsoft introduced today that makes the Surface Pro 2 a great choice: The Docking Station for Surface Pro - it works with the old and new generation - provides you with better options to work with the device on a desk. Just dock it in and you can use keyboard and mouse that you connect via the docking station. It features a Mini DisplayPort video output, three USB 2.0 and one USB 3.0 port, an Ethernet port, and 3.5mm audio in and out.
It will come out in early 2014 unfortunately and not earlier than that.
Power Cover is the second new accessory for Surface. It offers the same typing experience as the Type Cover but includes an extra battery to get the most out of the device when you are using it in a mobile environment.
Surface accessory compatibility list
- Type Cover: all Surface devices.
- Touch Cover: all Surface devices.
- Type Cover 2: all Surface devices.
- Touch Cover 2: all Surface devices.
- Power Cover: compatible with Surface 2, Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2.
- Wireless Adapter for Type Cover: all Surface devices.
- Docking station: compatible with Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2.
- Car Charger: with all devices.
Surface pricing
- Surface 2 starts at $449
- Surface Pro 2 starts at $899
- Wireless Adapter: $59.99
- Touch Cover 2: $119.99
- Type Cover 2: $129.99
- Power Cover: unknown
- Docking Station: unknown
The pricing appears to have not been changed at all. Both Surface 2 devices start at the same price their successors were offered for, and the updated covers are also sold for the same price. It is interesting to note that the Surface Pro and the Touch Cover are currently on sale on the official website. You save $100 when you buy the Surface Pro, and another $40 when you buy the Touch Cover.
The new Surface video
Closing Words
Surface Pro 2 is not a cheap device. It starts at $899 and while you do get a great piece of hardware, it is not really that great in terms of internal storage. It starts at 64 Gigabyte which is not suitable for anything but light work on the system. If you consider that 20 or so Gigabytes are used for Windows 8 Pro, you end up with about 40 Gigabyte of storage for your programs and files. That's two cutting edge games, considering that you should leave 10% of the Solid State Drive free at all times.
Hard drive upgrades are available, up to 512 Gigabyte of space. This comes at a cost though, and it will likely not be cheap to upgrade. If the old Surface Pro is anything to go buy, the upgrade to 128 Gigabyte will cost another $100, and doubling that again may cost another $100. Add to that the Type Cover that you desperately need and you are quickly reaching the $1500 mark.
Is it worth that much money? I will definitely wait for benchmarks and first reviews to pop up on the Internet before I make a buying decision.
What about you? Are you interested in the Surface refresh at all?
Thanks for the info Martin, I have been wondering too.
Second to last paragraph, “There do not…”, is not grammaticality correct.
You mean grammatically incorrect.
lol
A thing designed to confuse the user for sure.
Why they simply don’t merge with the normal download omg?
The core problem with the addition is the lack of information on AMD’s part.
Is “Catalyst the user panel”, the device drivers, or the combination?
I have a Celeron motherboard with twin Radeon 9250’s on board, and it’s fine for nearly everything, but has terrible difficulty playing videos, even from the hard drive. I installed the latest “Catalyst” (10-10_xp32_dd_ccc_enu.exe) and the device drivers still say they are from 2006. This may be the best there is for this board, but it’s sure hard to tell.
Freddy: Did you uninstall the old drivers before installing the new one?
Nope. The instructions didn’t ask me to. I suppose it will just use a vanilla Microsoft driver if I do that? And actually boot? So then I can re-run the Catalyst install?
It is probably best to clean all old drivers first and reboot the machine afterwards. Windows usually offers generic drivers. Once the system boots install the ATI Catalyst drivers again to see if it makes a difference.
“gives any application access to the Graphics Processing Unit for non-graphical computing” means it’s basically the ATI/AMD version of NVidia’s CUDA which allows the GPU’s processing power to be used for other stuff than graphics, eg. for physics calculations (through PhysX in that case). That can lessen the load on the computer’s CPU
Everything found in AMD Catalyst, plus the OpenCL driver Users can still grab all of the individual AMD Catalyst components as well (which will also include the OpenCL driver as well)
Highlights of the AMD Catalyst Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) Technology Edition 10.10&up Windows release include:
Introduction of AMD HD3D Technology
*Blu-ray 3D support
•This release of AMD Catalyst provides support for Blu-ray 3D playback
•Requires Blu-ray 3D player software, 3D supported display and 3D Stereoscopic glasses*
•Supported on the AMD Radeon™ HD 6800 Series GPUs
Stereo 3D gaming support
•This release of AMD Catalyst provides support for Stereo 3D gaming via 3rd party middleware from Dynamic Digital Depth (DDD) and iZ3D
•Requires 3D supported display and 3D Stereoscopic glasses*
•Supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5000™ Series and AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series GPUs
Video accleration for HD WMV video content
* This release of AMD Catalyst provides video acceleration support for WMV HD (Microsoft video codec) under Windows 7
* Supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series of products
Enahnced Dynamic Contrast video controls
* This release of AMD Catalyst enhances the Dynamic Contrast setting found in the Catalyst Control Center by adding support for histogram based detection
Information was found on various websites.
Just adding my 2 pennies, I think the APP drivers helps GPU intensive apps run concurrently without crashing. I have an ATI 5870, the usually (non-APP) 10.11 ATI driver crashes (after a few seconds) when I run a 3d game (CoD Black ops in windowed mode) along with running a flash based (TV stream) on firefox. Symptoms are: Game hangs momentary (which I then am forced to close), flash player crashes and ATI driver recovers from a crash.
With the APP drivers installed, this concurrent usage of my GPU seem to run both apps smoothly without crashing. Thanks ATI for the new APP drivers. Things work better now. (Mind you I have not exhaustively tested this! Just a
over an hour of game play while streaming TV). Things use to crash within a few minutes of running the two apps together.
Thanks for your 2¢. i was wondering abt this and I also have the same gpu and stream on my big screen through it while some other gpu intensive thing on the other. I have noticed , though when i play a bd movie in PowerDVD10 ultra player now my gpu shows zero use through out the whole movie. not sure if it is connected and cyberlink corp can not respond to this adequately at all. so far they dont know what i am saying. I use afterburner 2.0 and have the graph showing gpu use and fps and it works . non blu ray dvd show action and appropriate fps60 or 24 depending how i have it set. so it works. i usually use my stand alone blu ray player but i sometimes just keep the one in my computer active and check to see if things are correct and since adding the APP drivers i notice this anomaly, if it is unusual. i would have thought the gpu would be more active for blu ray play back, no more since adding APP but getting 0fps and 0% activity for the whole movie does not seem right. no comments from amd or cyberlinnk so far
Is there any program or games to day that use
Accelerated Parallel Processing (APP) Technology
Thanks for the info… was wondering why the 2 versions myself. Still don’t know why they just auto update drivers.
So with all these wonderful things that this “APP technology” does the question still remains, why on earth is amd even continuing to release the drivers/catalyst without it?
B/C some people have the i7 with 8 cores and realy dont nead thier GP doing any extra work…. and with 6-12 Gigs of mem running at 1600 mhz the pc screams…
It would be cool if the next version of Photoshop utilized this in order to process renderings faster. That would rock.
how do you know that your graphics card is app tho
CyberLink’s PowerDirector 9 Ultra64 can use this technology. That’s why I came to this discussion.
Yes , prog CyberLink PowerDirector ..it offers Smart Video Rendering Technology (SVRT), and is optimized for NVIDIA CUDA technology, AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing technology, Intel Core family processors, and AMD multi-core central process units.
Some comments seem to refer to other articles…
I made the mistake of accepting HP ink subscription package for some months, then I unsuscribed it. A guy told me that so doing HP had remotely changed my all-in-one printer firmware forcing me to use only original ink cartridges.
Is there any way to revert the firmware to the original one, allowing me to use generic ink cartridges?
Thank you.
Not only HP printers by the way : the same shameful practice with the Epson 9900 series printer :
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84u_8hAFzU] on YouTube
[https://piped.frontendfriendly.xyz/watch?v=M84u_8hAFzU] via this Piped instance.
They make money with the ink cartridges, it’s almost that they’d offer the printer for free.
EDIT, off-topic : the article on it’s very page as on Ghacks Homepage is shown as having 0 comments …
There seems to be a mix-up : comments relate to another, older article.
“Launching the subscription-based service HP+, which, as a feature, blocks using third-party ink for the lifetime of the printer, even when customers unsubscribe later on.”
This is outrageous — just like the rest. I’ll make a good note never to buy HP. Nor ink-jet printers, incidentally. Laser is the way to go.
Its remarkable how much Printer makers can get away with it. Its as if this is the first time such companies have been caught doing anti-consumer things.
– Cartridges having very little ink in them on a small sponge.
– Printers flagging falsely flagging printers for repairs for no reason whilst locking out users.
– Printers locking out cheaper third party ink.
– Placing stickers over the USB ports claiming there is none to force people to use ethernet or wifi so the companies can push these so called updates to disable and control your printers.
– Disabling unrelated parts of your all in one printer.
– Forced subscriptions.
– Time bombed hardware.
– Overly expensive ink.
– Falsely claiming ink cartridges are empty when they are not.
The list goes on and on really and yet nobody has done anything about it. Where is Europe on this? Where are the morons that glue themselves to the roads on this or the league against straws.
There is just no oversight for this reckless industry. They have been getting away with murder for years.
I’ve seen some people say that it is cheaper to buy a new printer when the included ink cartridges run out and throw the one they have in the trash which says a lot doesn’t it.
HP is pretty much a known scumbag in the industry but they aren’t the only one, they all do it to one extent or another.
There seem’s to be an issue with comments.
This article is about HP all-in-one and the comment count is 0, but there are multiple comments older for an AMD GPU article.
I beg your pardon, the first comment is from year 2010!
What the hell? :S
Being an “old fart”, maybe it is easier for me than others, but I find myself choosing older items over this kind of HP crap. Yesterday’s Caddilac is much more dependable, safer and cheaper to operate than the modern day Tesla.
Good Lord, November 2010! I think it’s time to forgive HP and move on now some 13 years later. Poor HP. People not letting go of resentment. :-P
New and old comments are appearing in unrelated articles.
I’m making this article in the Lenovo Legion Go leaked images, and it will appear in other articles too.
laptops The description underscores how top brands such as HP, Dell, and Asus are making gaming accessible without a hefty price tag. It’s important to prioritize features like speed, memory, graphics, and processing power when selecting a gaming laptop, ensuring an enjoyable gaming experience without overspending.
No idea what “[…] than ever …” is supposed to mean in the title. It looks like it’s missing a word.
:S
Why are the comments sections in all of the articles from many years ago???? The comments here are from 2010!!
Ghacks has gone way downhill since Martin sold it. The owners don’t give a damn, apparently, as it’s been like this for weeks.
It’s been going for far over a week now. The fact this Comments section is neither fixed nor simply and honestly removed is perhaps relevant of the owner’s plan to let it slowly but surely become obsolete, check if the number of visitors falls as well and if not then remove ‘Comments’ for good, maybe by January 2024.
I’ve spent many splendid years reading comments, replying, commenting myself here, especially when Ghacks was independent. Comments are so complimentary of articles. End of an era as it seems.
@Tom Hawack,
I feeling so too.
“M&A” is used regularly by Microsoft as a means of “ruling out rivals”, and Softonic’s acquisition of ghacks.net seems to be no exception. It is very disappointing.
As is clear from the case of Elon Musk, who acquired Twitter, there are things like locking and deleting comments, authentication systems, etc.
The future of ghacks is uncertain, and it looks like it will end in tragedy.
Advances in digital technology are exposing a chaotic and irresistible oppressive reality. Far from being “bright and happy,” the future feels “dark and gloomy” with despair.
Nice and good words by @Tom Hawack, I feel near the same feelings with this site. I arrived here while suffering very bad moments at my life when a good friend of mine died of cancer disease. I can’t barely remember when was my first comment, however I think that I have been here since 2018 if my memory doesn’t fail. Anyway, there have been so many years reading good articles and also reading some good comments by some good users. Now I am starting with my first job as forestal engineer at long extension areas of Spain so I will have very reduced time to read and comment, however I will continue visiting this site to remember the good times. Thanks to you all for your efforts and also for the great patience, over all to @Martin, @Ashwin, @Tom Hawack, @owl, @herman cost, @violetmoon and so many other users! You all are the best! :]
Tom, the issue appears to have been fixed. Terribly sorry that it took this long. Can you please verify? Thank you!
@Martin Brinkmann (said on September 8, 2023 at 2:33 pm),
According to my RSS reader, this reply appears to be directed at @Tom Hawack (ghacks.net/2010/10/31/whats-the-amd-catalyst-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-technology-edition/#comment-4573217).
I also replied to Martin (ghacks.net/2023/07/24/pokemon-go-routes-not-working-how-to-fix-it/#comment-4573350) in my reply, but I don’t understand that the series of troubles has been fixed.
In the case where comments on Avast articles (Get Protected the Right Way with Avast Free Antivirus: ghacks.net/2023/08/07/get-protected-the-right-way-with-avast-free-antivirus/) were deleted that I first pointed out to Martin, It It remains disappeared (and nowhere to be found), remaining unchanged.
And the inconsistency in “association between articles and comments” remains unchanged and incoherent.
What exactly was “fixed”?
@Martin Brinkmann,
Incidentally, some of the Comments I posted a few days ago remain blocked.
Example at (ghacks.net/2010/10/31/whats-the-amd-catalyst-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-technology-edition/#comment-4573248),
and more (ghacks.net/2023/09/02 /microsoft-is-removing-wordpad-from-windows/#comment-4573267).
I would also like to know why it is blocked.
@Martin Brinkmann,
I’m guessing from your most recent article post,
>> ghacks.net/2023/09/08/google-enables-real-time-checks-in-chromes-safe-browsing-security-feature/#comment-4573399
the fixed Martin mentioned is that “From future posts, the association with the article will be properly established.”?
However, is it impossible to fix the association of comments for a large number of articles that occurred during this period (8/15-9/7)?
If ghacks.net were to leave these messed up associations in their articles, Subscribers who don’t know about these things will be very confused when they see the article.
And one more thing, what about the disappeared (erased) Comments?
If all of them have been corrected successfully, it can be said that problem have been “fixed”.
Regarding the Comment block and the missing Comments, I feel that there is a need for a clear official statement (by Softonic) on paper for ghacks.net subscribers.
@Martin Brinkmann,
It was just a while ago,
The Comment “Thread about HarmonyOS” posted by @Glyde on September 8, 2023 at 8:06 pm is about the article 2023/09/05 “Watch out Windows, you got a new competitor”,
but it’s linked to Martin’s article 2020/12/26 “How to sum numbers in LibreOffice Calc automatically”.
> ghacks.net/2020/12/26/how-to-sum-numbers-in-libreoffice-calc-automatically/
Please correct the links appropriately.
Regarding the article “Watch out Windows, you got a new competitor”
> ghacks.net/2023/09/05/harmonyos-pc-vs-windows/
Note!
After all, if we don’t fix all the articles with messed up associations, those articles will continue to get messed up. You can’t just leave it alone.
Note!
After all, if don’t fix all the articles with messed up associations, those articles will continue to get messed up. Can’t just leave it alone.
@David Arandale,
Note: I replied to you on September 6, 2023 at Around 2:30 pm, but it was still remain blocked after more than half a day, so I replaced the quoted URI scheme: https:// with “>>” and reposted.
The current ghacks.net is owned by “Softonic International S.A.” (sold by Martin in October 2019), and due to the fate of M&A, ghacks.net has changed in quality.
>> ghacks.net/2023/09/02/microsoft-is-removing-wordpad-from-windows/#comment-4573130
Many Authors of bloggers and advertisers certified by Softonic have joined the site, and the site is full of articles aimed at advertising and clickbait.
>> ghacks.net/2023/08/31/in-windows-11-the-line-between-legitimate-and-adware-becomes-increasingly-blurred/#comment-4573117
As it stands, except for articles by Martin Brinkmann and Ashwin, they are low quality, unhelpful, and even vicious. It is better not to read those articles.
>> ghacks.net/2023/09/01/windows-11-development-overview-of-the-august-2023-changes/#comment-4573033
By the way, if you use an RSS reader, you can track exactly where your comments are (I’m an iPad user, so I use “Feedly Classic”, but for Windows I prefer the desktop app “RSS Guard”).
RSS Guard: Feed reader which supports RSS/ATOM/JSON and many web-based feed services.
>> github.com/martinrotter/rssguard#readme
@Martin Brinkmann,
Regarding my comments (#comment-4573235, #comment-4573237) before and after the reply to @Tom Hawack (#comment-4573236),
I posted it around 2:30pm (daytime) German time, but why is it still not showing up even after almost half a day?
gHacks, fuck off! i’m out.
MediaTek develops its first 3nm chip using TSMC process
Is this Apple A17 Pro GPU integrated in the up and coming iPhone 15?
The article and the picture does not make the distinction it being a separate device or integral to the iPhone 15.
“leaks”
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