Malwarebytes 3.0.6 with stability and performance improvements

Malwarebytes 3.0.6 is the latest version of the popular security program for Windows that is available as a free and premium version.

The company, also called Malwarebytes, released version 3.0 of the program not too long ago. The update changed things around quite a bit, and not all for the better.

The new Malwarebytes unified the company's three individual products Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, Anti-Exploit, and Anti-Ransomware into a single product. All three were available as a free version previously, but that changed with the release of the new program version.

The company pulled the standalone products, so that they could only be used from that moment on in Malwarebytes 3.0 Premium.

There were other things in Malwarebytes 3.0 that user worried about. Especially the program's memory consumption was mentioned in this regard, but users complained about the performance and the stability of the security application as well.

Malwarebytes 3.0.6 with stability and performance improvements

malwarebytes 3.0.6

Malwarebytes released several versions since the initial release of Malwarebytes 3.0. All included stability and performance improvements, as well as other fixes. This is not different with today's release of Malwarebytes 3.0.6. The new version is available for free and premium users alit.

Highlights of the Malwarebytes 3.0.6.1469 release are:

  1. Malware detection and remediation improvements.
  2. Startup time improvements.
  3. Memory leaks plugged.
  4. CPU usage after scan completion reduced.
  5. Fixed issue where "Real-Time Protection turned off" notifications were displayed incorrectly.
  6. Patched several crash and blue screen issues.
  7. Fixed individual issues in Edge, Windows Insider Previews, and PowerPoint.

The full change log is displayed when you start the update. You may also check it out on the Malwarebytes site once the release history is updated.

Malwarebytes addressed several issues in this new version of the software. At least some users who upgraded their version to Malwarebytes 3.0.6 are reporting that they are still experiencing issues including crashes, Access Denied Code 5 error messages during the upgrade, or that Web Protection does not start.

On a personal note: I did experience the "Real-Time Protection turned off" notification issue, and it was quite annoying. I have to monitor this more closely, but it seems indeed fixed in this release.

Memory consumption of MBAMService.exe is still quite high, and it is not the only process that is used by the application.

Now You: What's your experience with the new Malwarebytes 3.0?

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Responses to Malwarebytes 3.0.6 with stability and performance improvements

  1. Pete January 26, 2017 at 10:04 pm #

    Its still much too bloated , uses too much CPU and very buggy ! If you read the MBAM-forum , you will uninstall at once.
    I went to 1.8-version , its not bloated, fast scanning and updating , only 18MB !!

    • Mrwintr February 4, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

      I will second that, I uninstalled 3.0 and went back to using version 2. This new version 3 was bringing my computer to a stand still at times, I would even lose cursor control....it kind of reminded me of a full blown Norton security suite, but worse!

      • Vinny February 10, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

        I've been using Malwarebytes Premium version for many eons and I must admit that my current version 3.0.6.1469 has got to be the worst. I constantly get the 'Web Not Protected' warning and after turning it on I get nothing more than the words, 'starting.' Also my cursor freezes, no other programs open, and finally a black screen. I've complained several times and received instructions with links on doing a clean uninstall and reinstall/reactivation. Now after every bootup I get the warning that my web protection is off & to turn it on. It now does turn on, but the freezing part is still there and I can't open any other programs. I believe the problem may lie in the fact that Malwarebytes claim they have antivirus protection, which I believe is in conflict with my paid version of Kaspersky's. Other forums complain and they are using McAfee, and Microsoft Defender. I'm switching back to using version 2

      • AJ North February 11, 2017 at 3:35 am #

        Unfortunately, MBAM 1.75 and 2.xx will go EOL on 2016.06.08, after which my assumption is that updates will no longer be provided -- https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/ .

      • cas March 20, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

        I have the same experience, not immediately after the install but on the next reboot my computer practically comes to a halt. An update of 3.06 was just installed and I have had to remove it 2x

    • artee February 19, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

      I agree with Pete. It hogs way too much memory and has slowed my computer down. I'm disappointed in v3.0.6.1469 and not too happy with the subscription based approach either, I might add. Used to think this was a great program. Hope they fix it or I'm going to let my subscription lapse.

    • Jan March 26, 2017 at 8:30 pm #

      I am having all these problems, too. At first I thought the problems were with my hardware but from reading these posts I see that the fault is with Malwarebytes 3.06. What a shame as the previous versions of Malwarebytes never caused me a single problem. If it's true that we can't go back to previous verions because they won't be supported then what other product would protect me from malware?

  2. Kubrick January 26, 2017 at 10:14 pm #

    Like many great software it is slowly turning into a bloated mess.avast made the fatal mistake after v5 of trying to cram too much bloat into the program and now look at the state of it.

    They have a perfect formula and then ruin it.

  3. Straspey January 27, 2017 at 12:07 am #

    This is one of the many reason why I appreciate ghacks and the effort put in by Martin.

    Back when MBAM "upgraded" to the unified version 3 release, I read a review of it here - with all the warnings about high memory consumption, crashes, etc --- so I decided to hold off on the upgrade - especially since I have a lifetime Pro license.

    I decided to wait and see what - if any - improvements MBAM might make to fix these issues.

    As of today, I am still running the standalone Pro MBAM version 2.2.1.1043 - with daily updates of virus definitions and real-time protection. It still works great and, for now, I'm going to stick with it until I hear about some really serious improvements to the triple-unified version 3.

  4. Pete January 27, 2017 at 12:23 am #

    Used this 2.2.1.1043-version a few years , but went back to 1.80.2.1012 Corporate-version .
    Its a fast scanner, fast updating, certainly not bloated, and only 18MB !
    No fuzz or CPU-problems , just a solid and reliable scanner, it does the same things as the 2-version, so easy choise !

    • GiddyUpGo January 27, 2017 at 2:23 am #

      I have a lifetime license to the pro. premium version and have had for several years.
      I have tried all the 3 versions and unhappy with each release. I always go back to version v2.2.1.1043.
      For the life of me I do not know why they choose to leave the Beta versions so quick.
      If they get it together someday, I will upgrade. If not I will look for something else when version 2.2.1.1043 no longer works.
      I have w7pro sp1 32bit with Intel I7 and with max 4g memory. Versions 3 take several minutes of loading after each reboot before I can use my computer too! Maybe my windows is too old for the new versions?

      • Rick A. January 27, 2017 at 2:44 am #

        is there an official link on Malwarebytes website for version v2.2.1.1043 ?

        i have that version on my Windows XP but i also want that version on my Windows 7 and Windows 10. Basically i don't like downloading software from a cnet and other sh*tty websites. An official link to Malwarebytes to download that version would be much appreciated.

      • Oxa January 27, 2017 at 7:05 pm #

        Rick - You can get it from Filehippo:
        http://filehippo.com/download_malwarebytes_anti_malware/tech/
        (Filehippo often retains older versions of software.)

  5. lehnerus2000 January 27, 2017 at 1:59 am #

    Can you permanently disable "MBAMService.exe" in this release?

    I despise the modern design paradigm that states "all programs must run services (24/7)".
    I don't need (or want) most of these garbage extras (like Foxit Reader's Cloud service).

    • Rick A. January 27, 2017 at 2:47 am #

      Couldn't agree more 24/7 running processes that aren't necessary i cannot stand and are sometimes a uninstall or not install for me.

    • AJ North February 9, 2017 at 8:13 am #

      Yes; to prevent auto-starting with Windows, open Services and change Startup Type for Malwarebytes Service from "Automatic" to "Manual". Alternatively, one could employ AutoRuns from Sysinternals, which would simply disallow the auto-start - https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx (Note: AutoRuns is a very powerful tool; it is advisable to to do a search for instructions on its proper use, and also to set a Restore Point when making changes with it).

      With respect to an earlier question from Rick A. (above) about Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 2.2.1.1043, it is also available at: https://malwarebytes-anti-malware.en.uptodown.com/windows/download/457209 (21.7 MB; digitally signed by Malwarebytes Corporation on 2016.03.10). VirusTotal reports the executable supplied to be 100% clean (as do ScanURL and URL Void for the download site itself).

  6. qd January 27, 2017 at 6:40 am #

    funny thing. the program doesn't update to the latest version automatically. it only updates signatures or whatever it is. apparently i'm still on 3.0.0

    well.. at least the free version doesn't anyway. and yeah.. rather idiotic for the services to keep running when you quit. i only scan things from time to time manually.

    • murykken January 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

      I have the same situation. All the signs say to update, yet nothing works. Still at 3.0.5.

  7. Oxa January 27, 2017 at 6:43 pm #

    Malwarebytes, like other software companies, has a major problem with Big Brotherism. In the free version, one cannot disable automatic updates, automatic notifications, and the hoovering up of usage and threat data. This puts it on my ****list.

  8. ada January 27, 2017 at 10:56 pm #

    after updating to 3.06 (via installer from website) i notice there's a separate program update button in the settings page. weird way of doing things.. try clicking that instead?

  9. wc January 27, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

    those options are all toggle-able for me in settings. yes.. free mode.

  10. PJ January 28, 2017 at 1:35 am #

    Still running a v2.2 version on Windows with just manual updates. Stopped paying for Webroot. Meanwhile, my 2nd laptop runs Linux Mint 18.2 and is a night and day different experience compared to the hassle of keeping Windows and apps updated. Linux now runs all my Windows apps, either with Linux versions (e.g., Beyond Compare) or just by installing using WINE (haven't yet needed Play on Linux as well). Virus problems on Linux are possible but not so prevalent that you need to pay for anything yet.

    What a shambles Windows is these days, between security problems and privacy busting telemetry and other surveillance. And what a breath of fresh air Linux is by comparison. On top of which its FREE. Just go to linuxmint.com and download it and put it on a memory stick and boot it up and try it out. I couldn't be happier with it. Then just make sure not to pay any Microsoft tax and buy your next computer with Linux (e.g., Dell's XPS 13 Developer Edition) instead of Windows.

  11. Lindsey January 28, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

    Replaced my version 2.x with 3.06.1469 Malwarebytes premium 2 days ago on my Windows 7 computer that also has Mcafee security center. My computer locked up numerous times since installing the new malwarebytes 3.06. Web protection was not on at any start-up. I only got the toggle to turn 'on' once. The other times it would turn from white to green but the spot would still be at the left hand side and the screen would show that web protection was 'starting'. I'd wait a long time for the web protection to finish starting but it would not. My computer would not respond to control-alt-delete. The mouse would not work. Eventually the screen would turn either blue or black. I had to turn off the computer by holding the power button in.
    I uninstalled malwarebytes version 3.06.1469 and the problems seem to have ended.
    I'm disappointed. I've warned my wife to not replace her 2.x malwarebytes with the new 3.06 malwarebytes software My family's malwarebytes subscription expires soon. I'm not sure that we'll renew.

    • Hy January 29, 2017 at 3:09 am #

      @Lindsey: “My family's malwarebytes subscription expires soon. I'm not sure that we'll renew.”

      Like you, my MBAM expires this year and I’m leaning toward not renewing it as well. I do like having some secondary real-time protection in place, though, so I’m currently testing the latest version of HitmanPro.Alert. Besides malware detection, HMPA says it can stop zero-hour threats, ransomware, exploits, webcam hijacking, malicious USB devices, and keylogging (it encrypts keystrokes), among other things. Looking at it when installing it I realized that it does what the new Malwarebytes 3 is supposed to do, and more. I’ve been with MBAM since the very beginning, but if their new version continues to be clunky I may be switching to HMPA this year.

    • Ross February 19, 2017 at 6:11 am #

      I just want to thank you Lindsey. Had I submitted an original note it would have been a duplicate of yours. After hours of struggling with 3.06.1469 I've just uninstalled it.'m going back to 2.0. I'm a long time MWB user and very disappointed.

  12. Pete January 28, 2017 at 8:27 pm #

    1.80 Corporate-version , solid and reliable protection.Fast scanning, fast updating and network-protection.
    Im using this , instead of the other bloated nightmare crap................

    • Dirgster January 29, 2017 at 4:53 am #

      I upgraded to MWB Premium 3.0.5.1299 and am constantly prompted by "Version Update Available". However, the "Download and Install" button does not react when clicked, so I still receive these annoying reminders. My Windows 10 machine, 64-bit, will hang a lot because of MWB's high CPU usage. I have written to MWB about this problem and have expressed my complaints but haven't heard back from them. I liked the earlier version much better. You would think that before MWB puts out such a drastic program change, they would test their product.

  13. Straspey January 28, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

    So now I'm getting a red triangle on the taskbar icon and MBAM wants to me to upgrade from v2.2.1.1043 to v 3 -- I keep clicking on "Later" but would like to disable that popup permanently. Does anyone know how to do this ?

    Thanks!

    • Straspey January 29, 2017 at 6:56 pm #

      UPDATE:

      I discovered how to stop MBAM from nagging that a new version is ready for installation.

      It does that because the new version has already been downloaded to a hidden folder, which MBAM sees and wants to install.

      In Windows 7, you need to un-hide hidden and system folders.

      Then go to users --> all users --> application data - Malwarebytes.

      Inside that folder is a file called mbam-setup.exe -- and that is the installation file for the new version which MBAM keeps nagging to install.

      Delete that file and then go into the MBAM settings menu and under Update Settings make sure the box marked "Check for program updates..." is UNCHECKED.

      Also - don't forget to re-hide your Windows system folder in Windows Explorer.

      For those people who are looking to download a fresh copy of MBAM 2.2.1.1043, try the link below. It worked for me.

      https://downloads.malwarebytes.com/file/mbam_2x

    • Wayne Ruppersburg February 1, 2017 at 2:54 am #

      Straspey,
      Go into settings in Malwarebytes 2.2. Click on left tab "Update Settings". Uncheck both boxes "Notify user if database is out of date" and "Check for program updates". This should stop messages to upgrade to 3.0 I have not received any messages to upgrade to 3.0 after performing the above.

      • kiwigirl March 25, 2017 at 6:39 am #

        thanks, very helpful

  14. Ray January 29, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

    This version still makes my PC eat CPU cycles like a vegan on a kale buffet. Does anyone have the same issue? I am using Windows 10.

    • Dirgster January 29, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

      I have the same issue by using version 3.0.5.12. MWB's processes really bog me down at times, and that can be very frustrating.

  15. Wayne Ruppersburg January 30, 2017 at 1:40 am #

    I installed 3.0 with continual problems with real time protection turning off... unable to turn it on. Uninstalled it, reinstalled it with same problems occurring. I finally got so fed up with 3.0 and uninstalled it again... went back to version 2.2 at oldapps.com. Went to Malwarebytes Forum and found stand alone beta versions of Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit and Anti-Ransomware. I'm happy as a lark again! Version
    2.2 can also be found http://filehippo.com/download_malwarebytes_anti_malware/tech/.

    I will wait for Malwarebytes to get their shit together before I try 3.06. I suspect that 3.06 is still too bloated and buggy because previous stand along services are combined in one. Thank you Malwarebytes for providing protection for all of us subscribing or not.

    • Dirgster February 2, 2017 at 1:24 am #

      Thanks for your reply! I was on MWB version 3.0.5.1299 when I was constantly prompted to upgrade, which was disabled. Yesterday, when "Install Upgrade" showed up again, MWB let me upgrade to version 3.0.6.1469, which I'm running now. No more prompts to update have appeared, although I noticed that my computer slows down at times because of MWB doing its job. Hopefully this CPU problem will only be temporary and MWB will correct that issue.

  16. Herb January 31, 2017 at 2:55 am #

    I have uninstalled it and gone back to the last standalone versions of Malwarebytes and the Anit-exploit, both paid, that I was using before being disrupted. The usage of cpu cycles was totally unacceptable taking all cores up to near max.
    Needless to say this is a disappointment and should have been better and more completely beta tested before unleashing it.
    Just a bit of an explanation of exactly what installing it in the first place would be changing would have been welcomed.
    Sadly, this issue is not up to their past standards.
    I will wait for them to correct what should have already been corrected and then see about giving it another go.

  17. Gerry L January 31, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

    I have just updated Malwarebytes to the latest version on 2 computers, one running Windows 10 and the other Windows 7. On the Windows 7 machine all is well, but on the Windows 10 I cannot activate Real Time Protection for Web protection. I continually get the message saying that I am not completely protected but when I click on the button it says that it is starting but nothing happens.

  18. Mike M February 1, 2017 at 6:06 am #

    I also have the same problems and have notified Malwarebytes. It seems strange that the latest release 3.0.6.1499 seems to work on my wife's Windows 10 PC (x64) - having updated a few days ago but I'm still stuck on 3.0.5.1299 with no sign of an update in sight.

  19. Kay C February 1, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

    My version of Malwarebytes remains 3.0.5. Although, since 2017-01-27 I keep being reminded an update is available. But the UPDATE won't UPDATE. I do have a request in to Malwarebytes for help with the updating but so far their help is not working! (Windows 7)

  20. Jack February 1, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

    I had no problem at all with Malwarebytes until the update to 3.0.6.. Now my web protection is either off or stuck on 'starting'. This also slows down my morning start-up considerably, as all seems to be placed on hold until the Malwarebytes notification that I am not protected appears, after which all works normally again.

    If anyone has a relatively simple solution or work-around to suggest, I would be most grateful

  21. Jeffro February 2, 2017 at 4:05 am #

    I'm having these same issues since upgrading. What a mistake that was. Previous version worked fine with no issues. Slow start up and edge browser unresponsive, not to mention the pesky notice about real time protection. What can I do short of uninstalling?

    • Jack February 2, 2017 at 8:17 pm #

      I also was on the point of uninstalling just now, when I read about the Malwarebytes Adw Cleaner. So I downloaded and ran it; it identified and cleaned three threats. Immediately afterwards, I tried for the nth time to turn on Malwarebytes 3.0.6 Web Protection and it finally worked. Whether there is any connection at all, I cannot say.

      • Gerry L February 2, 2017 at 9:38 pm #

        Jack - a solution! I downloaded Malwarebytes ADW Cleaner and ran it. It identified 9 threats and so I ran the clean up operation, It seemed to identify a program file called download installer. Having deleted the offending files and rebooting as requested, I could not open Malwarebytes - it said that I did not have permission or the file path was missing. So I did what I usually do in similar circumstances and rebooted again. Success!!! Malwarebytes ran OK and the web protection flag was set on. It would appear that updating to version 3.06 on Windows 10 can leave "corrupt" installer files on the system. Hooray.

  22. Allan February 2, 2017 at 5:48 pm #

    I've just uninstalled 3.0.6 on my Windows 8.1 machine and suddenly everything speeded back up. Also, some of the time I couldn't double-click on files in Windows Explorer - it kept saying I hadn't got permissions. Rebooting could cure that one - sometimes - but why should I? I might reinstall come 3.1 to see it it's got better. Too clever by half? It's very difficult to predict how Windows processes will cross each other up, but surely file explorer is pretty basic?

    • Allan February 4, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

      Update: I've reinstalled 2.1.6 which is running just fine but it's downloaded 3 and keeps trying to get me to install it again - I guess I'll just have to keep slapping it down :(

      • GiddyUpGo February 5, 2017 at 12:48 am #

        ALLAN: Instead of slapping it down, your version 2.1.1 might have downloaded the version 3 update to your compures without you knowing it and is trying to installed it.
        1.) You need to un-hide hidden and system folders.
        2.) Then go to users\all users\Malwarebytes.
        3.) Look Inside that folder for a file called mbam-setup.exe. That is the installation file for the new version MBAM keeps wanting for you to install.
        4.) Renam or Delete that file.
        5.) Go to the MBAM settings menu and under Update Settings Uncheck the box marked "Check for program updates:.
        6.) Reset your hidden and system folders.

        I have had to do this before I unchecked the "Check for program updates" under MB.
        Hope this helps you!

  23. Earl February 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

    I upgraded to MB 3.0.6.1469 on Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 and now it kills Internet Explorer 11 (11.0.38) when it starts up. Internet Explorer (IE) has a startup page of "about:blank" so it has not communicated to any website yet. It kills IE because it says it blocked an "Exploit ROP Gadget Attack". How can it be stopping an attack at startup when IE has not accessed a web-site? Chrome and FireFox seem to work fine under the new version. Is anyone experiencing the same problem?

    • AJ North February 9, 2017 at 9:07 am #

      Hello Earl,

      On Win 7 Pro (x64), with MWB 3.0.6.1469 and IE 11.0.38, I am not experiencing that problem.

      Question: by chance, do you also have EMET installed? If so, then that could be the issue, as it and MWB have a great deal of overlap of protection, and the two are basically not intended to be run together on the same system.

      If not, then perhaps you might try adding IE to MWB's exceptions. If that still does not solve your problem, then you might try deselecting one (or possibly more) of the ROP browser protections: open MWB —> Setting —> Protections —> Advanced Settings —> Advanced Memory Protection; there you will see four obvious possibilities to experiment with. Hope this proves useful.

      As an aside, MWB 3.0.6.1469 pops-up a warning and blocks Winamp every time I try to fire it up, even though I've excluded all of its folders and executables (fortunately, if I try it twice more after the pop-up, it will start...).

    • Earl February 9, 2017 at 10:03 am #

      Below is AJ North's response to me that has now mysteriously disappeared:
      AJ was correct that EMET 4.1 update that was originally installed on 12/15/2016 was the factor causing Malwarebytes (MWB) to kill IE as it was started. So while EMET was a factor, it was not the problem. The problem is that when I updated MWB to 3.0.6 it decided it did not like EMET running. Therefore, there are compatibility issues with MWB 3.0.6 and EMET 4.1 that Malwarebytes needs to fix. EMET was installed before my first version of Malwarebytes, but no problems existed until the 3.0.6 upgrade. I will update my post if I can reinstall EMET 4.1 and make MWB 3.0.6 work correctly
      Thank you for responding AJ! You are a Master Wizard sir! I sincerely appreciate your help to solve my problem.

      There is a new comment to Malwarebytes 3.0.6 with stability and performance improvements.
      Comment Link: http://www.ghacks.net/2017/01/26/malwarebytes-3-0-6-with-stability-and-performance-improvements/#comment-4126285
      Author: AJ North
      Comment: Hello Earl,
      On Win 7 Pro (x64), with MWB 3.0.6.1469 and IE 11.0.38, I am not experiencing that problem.
      Question: by chance, do you also have EMET installed? If so, then that could be the issue, as it and MWB have a great deal of overlap of protection, and the two are basically not intended to be run together on the same system.
      If not, then perhaps you might try adding IE to MWB's exceptions. If that still does not solve your problem, then you might try deselecting one (or possibly more) of the ROP browser protections: open MWB --> Setting --> Protections --> Advanced Settings --> Advanced Memory Protection; there you will see four obvious possibilities to experiment with. Hope this proves useful.
      As an aside, MWB 3.0.6.1469 pops-up a warning and blocks Winamp every time I try to fire it up, even though I've excluded all of its folders and executables (fortunately, if I try it twice more after the pop-up, it will start...).
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      • AJ North February 9, 2017 at 11:14 am #

        Hello Earl,

        You are entirely welcome, sir; glad the information was useful!

        If you plan to retain EMET, the current version (and quite possibly the last, unfortunately) is 5.52 - several versions past 4.1, which is obsolete; you can find the download link and documentation at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2458544/the-enhanced-mitigation-experience-toolkit (uninstall the previous version and restart the computer; then install the current version).

        Actually, it's not so much a compatibility issue as one of overlapping authority: the two utilities if configured to cover the same exploits fight each other (and frequently kill the application in question); an analogy would be running two real-time anti-malware (anti-virus) utilities together on the same system (which, as you know, is virtually never recommended).

        EMET and MWB can be configured to coexist (I've done it for several machines), but in general, one or the other should provide adequate protection for most people. Remember: the ultimate safeguard against malware is the computer's operator.

        Regards,

        AJN

  24. OrewaBob February 3, 2017 at 9:47 pm #

    I noticed that it seemed to be battling with Avira anti-virus on startup with both using huge amounts of CPU. I found this old answer to similar problems with an earlier version but it made some sense... (Needs some translation as it is talking about different versions).

    Set Exclusions for Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware in Avira on Windows:

    Open Avira and click on Local Protection on the left
    Click on Realtime Protection
    Click on Configuration on the upper right
    Click the checkbox next to Expert mode on the upper left so that it is checked
    Under Guard, click the + next to Scan to expand the list
    Click on Exceptions
    Under Processes to be omitted by the Guard click the ... button next to the blank white box
    In the browse window that opens, navigate to C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
    Double-click on mbam.exe then click the Add button
    Repeat steps 7-9 for the following files:
    C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamgui.exe
    C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
    [*]Click on Apply

    [*]Close Avira's window

    Set Exclusions for Avira in Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware:

    Open Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and click on the Ignore List tab
    Click the Add button on the lower left
    In the small browse window that opens, navigate to C:\Program Files and click once on Avira and click OK
    Close Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware

    Makes sense that they shouldn't be checking each other. I have done it and will see in the next few days if it has fixed it. Mind you, the 241MB of memory that it seems to continually use now is annoying!

    • Curt February 4, 2017 at 10:45 am #

      Well I was going to add applications to the exclusion list, but when I complete the process and click OK, it goes back to a blank exclusion list. I cant exclude anything. Realtime protection of Web is off and won't stay on. My computer is sluggish. I blindly trusted Malwarebytes and now feel so betrayed.

      I have a lifetime license. Will I lose it if I attempt to uninstall and rollback?

  25. bab February 4, 2017 at 8:24 pm #

    I'm having the same exact situation as Curt, except I wasn't trying to add anything to any list.

    I did have "Disable Internet Explorer VB scripting" unchecked: It was preventing a connection to a production web site on the LAN that I needed to access via Win8.1's IE. But that setting is working as expected and unchecking allowed access to the web server.

    Please advise asap why Realtime protection of Web is off and won't stay on. (and if I should roll back too). I've also noticed sluggish PC in last several days that I can't attribute to anything else (even with no browsers open). I know that Chrome will keep one 32bit process open at all times to improve Chrome opening. I only use IE for that one LAN site.

    Humm . . .

  26. OrewaBob February 4, 2017 at 8:34 pm #

    This morning was only a little better after doing the exclusions. MB was still taking up to 80% of the CPU and using 600MB of memory (this is just silly!). Avira was calm and no longer battling MB so the machine was sluggish but would actually do things. It took about 5 minutes for MB to settle down and give me my machine back.

    I always used to start my machine and leave it 10 minutes to settle when I had a spinner (rather than my present SSD), guess I will have to go back to that practice until they fix it.

    They have to fix this or they will lose all of their customers.

  27. GiddyUpGo February 5, 2017 at 12:16 am #

    Curt: I too have the lifetime licenese. I have tried every beta 3 version and every new released version and have never had any problem with my lifetime license working every time. I always uninstall using MB's adw clean uninstaller, Revo Uninstaller, and searching the registry and the computer to find any left overs.
    The latest premium version 3.0.6 installs OK and takes my lifetime license OK. This version continues to take over 6 to 8 minutes using all of my Intel I7 4 core memory before I can use my computer after each boot. Most of the time the Real Time Protection has to be turned back on.
    I still am using MB version 2.
    No you will not loose your life time license. MB promises your lifetime license will alway work....it has for me.

  28. Gerald Law February 5, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

    I spoke too soon when I said that the problem appeared to have been solved by running ADW cleaner. After 2 days of blissful normal operation, this morning once again saw the old problem reappear. I again ran ADW cleaner and carried out a couple of reboots and the web protection remained switched on. Malwarebytes slows my machine down and I believe that an unreliable protection is as bad as no protection, so I shall seriously think about getting rid of Malwarebytes completely.
    Gerry

  29. Jack February 5, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

    I’m with you here, Gerry. The AdwCleaner approach solved the problem for two days only. After that and ever since, on starting the computer in the morning, I receive the same notice from Malwarebytes that my web protection is turned off. I therefore have to run AdwCleaner each time--and this is time consuming, always involving a restart--before I can turn web protection back on. At that point, all is normal again. Up to now, this seems to be working for one day at a time.

    AdwCleaner is deleting the same three Chrome-based files each time, so clearly something I am doing on Chrome is reinstalling them.

    I really think Malwarebytes has got to get its act together on this, or I, like you, will be thinking seriously of dropping it altogether.

  30. Hy February 9, 2017 at 7:29 am #

    Does anyone know if premium license holders will be able to use MBAM 2.2.1.1043 indefinitely?

    Interestingly, memory usage for my ver. 2.2.1.1043 has gone through the roof and stayed there the last several weeks. I posted mem usage to another MBAM article on ghacks in early December, and at that time the combined three running MBAM processes were around 75MB. For the last several weeks, however, the three MBAM v.2 processes have been clocking in at a total of 330-340 MBs!

    Also, the daily MBAM scans, which have always taken five or six minutes max, have at times taken 15 or 16 minutes these last several weeks.

    • AJ North February 9, 2017 at 9:20 am #

      According to Malwarebytes, MWB 2.2.1 goes EOL on 2017.06.08 - https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/ .

      • Hy February 11, 2017 at 9:43 am #

        @AJ North: Thank you! That is exactly what I was wondering about. Interestingly, for the other MB product I use--the standalone MBAE 1.09.1.1291--there is no EOL date given.

    • AJ North February 10, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

      MBAM 2.xx and 1.75 will go EOL on 2017.06.08 - https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/ (which suggests that signature updates for those versions will be discontinued after that date).

  31. AJ North February 11, 2017 at 3:33 am #

    MBAM 1.75 and 2.xx will go EOL on 2016.06.08, after which my assumption is that updates will no longer be provided -- https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/ .

    [Note to moderator: I have been attempting to post this reply for two days; it does not even appear as a submission with an editing countdown.]

  32. AJ North February 11, 2017 at 3:38 am #

    For those remaining with, or switching back to, MBAM 2.21, versions 1.75 and 2.xx will go EOL on 2016.06.08, after which my assumption is that updates will no longer be provided -- https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/ .

  33. Curt February 14, 2017 at 7:57 pm #

    I seemed to have solved my issues. This was the state I was in:

    1) Kaspersky Total Security was not not running and not being loaded at startup because having Kaspersky and Malwarebytes running at the same time locked up my computer. Had to boot into safe mode to get Kaspersky set to not load at startup before I was able to boot into normal mode again.
    2) Realtime protection items wouldn't stay on or even turn on.
    4) I was unable to add exclusion to Malwarebytes.

    These are the steps I did:

    1) Deactivated my license to free up my lifetime license.
    2) Uninstalled from Windows 7 Programs and Features in Control Panel
    3) Rebooted
    4) Install Malwarebytes 3.0.6 and reenter activation key (kaspersky is still off from before, but I suspect that it was running during my initial install and that that caused the prior install of Malwarebytes to not be working correctly).
    5) Turned on "Enable self-protection module early start". I got this from the Malwarebytes website as a solution to modules not running. This step worked for me as I had already tested it before the uninstall.
    6) Add the Kaspersky folder to the exclusion list.
    7) Quit MalwareBytes.
    8) Startup Kaspersky.
    9) Add the Malwarebytes folder to the Kaspersky exclusion list.
    10) Re-enable Kaspersky launch with Windows startup.
    11) Reboot.

    Now everything seems OK. You have to get each application to exclude the other before you let both applications run at the same time.

    • Curt February 19, 2017 at 6:52 am #

      After that success, I have ended up turning MalwareBytes off. I give up. Malwarebytes has itself become a virus. My cloud backup was running so slow, that it couldn't even complete during the 17 hours I allow it to run each day. Database applications were brought to their knees. I tried excluding files and folders, but no improvement. I turned off all realtime protection, but still no improvement. Only shutting it off brought these applications back to a functioning state. What a disaster.

  34. Kay C February 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

    I was running Malwarebytes, the version (3.0.5) just prior to 3.0.6.1469 and having problems with it not being able to update. I'm also running Windows 7, SP1 and updates are current (I hope!). I had intended to upgrade to Windows 10 then changed my decision on that but Microsoft had already begun the process for the upgrade. I was, however, able to stop the upgrade.

    I offered that to share this. After reading another newsfeed from gHacks, I removed the following updates for Windows 7:
    KB971033 (this one wasn't among updates on my system)
    KB2952664
    KB2976978
    KB2990214
    KB3021917
    KB3022345
    KB3035583
    KB3044374
    KB3068708
    KB3075249
    KB3080149
    KB3123862
    KB3184143 (this one I removed as suggested by someone else)

    Here's the link to the newsfeed from gHacks: http://www.ghacks.net/2017/02/11/blocking-telemetry-in-windows-7-and-8-1/. I'd suggest checking this out before removing any updates just so that you have the correct ones.

    Again, these suggestions pertain to Windows 7.

    I wasn't able to "stop" & "delete" Diagtrack as suggested by the gHacks newsfeed but after deleting those updates, Malwarebytes was able to update to 3.0.6.1469, my system seems faster and I've had no further problems (so far!).

  35. Gerry L February 19, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

    Well peoples - about 10 days ago I tried one last time to get Malwarebytes to operate properly (ie allow web protection to be activated). I uttered a few incantations which included some choice Anglo-Saxon words that I seem to have picked up on my travels. I promised the software a swift journey to where the sun don't shine. I can now report that Malwarebytes now works as it should and all is well with the world, or at least in my world.

  36. OrewaBob February 20, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

    This is the response that I received from Malwarebtyes. So far it all seems a HUGE amount better...

    Hello Bob,
    Please be advised that we have just released a component update to address the real-time protection issues with the latest Malwarebytes 3.0.6 build.
    To obtain this component update, please click HERE
    Install over the top of your current installation of Malwarebytes 3.0.6.
    Once you have installed, you will see the following under Version Information on the About screen:
    Malwarebytes version: 3.0.6.1469
    Component package version: 1.0.69
    To access this information, launch Malwarebytes and go to Settings and click the About tab. The component details are located under the Version Information.
    If you have any questions or still have issues, please let me know.
    Thank you!
    Guenter
    Customer Success

    • AJ North February 20, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

      The download link for, and thread pertaining to, the new "preview version" (read "beta") of the upcoming update to MWB 3.0.6 are at https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/196490-mwb-3061469-keeps-downloading-same-version/ .

      • AJ North February 21, 2017 at 7:06 am #

        An addendum: installing the "preview version," over existing installations of MWB 3.0.6 on three Win 7 Pro (x64) machines failed. The solution was to uninstall MWB, reboot and then install the interim version fresh. The license registrations were retained, but settings needed to be re-entered. And, even though Winamp has been added to exclusions, MWB still continues to block it (though clicking its icon twice after the notification from MWB closes does start the application...).

  37. Marko3D February 25, 2017 at 10:40 am #

    I can confirm too that the latest version is the worst by far, it slows my pc, all apps along with MB keeps freezing on start up and the worst part happend to me a day ago when I was unable to access to my PC after corrupted start up (30 seconds after every sucessfull boot a computer becomes totally frozen) . After 1 hour of desperate attempts to log into my pc I figure it out that there were a possible conflict between Malwarebyte and Kaspersky therefore I was forced to disable malwarebytes start up process from safe mode since the uninstallation option was corrupted too (even in the safe mode) in order to re-establish control under my PC and access to my files. After that my computer was on the road again .
    ps.
    English is not my mother tongue; please excuse any errors on my part.

    • AJ North February 25, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

      Hello Marko3D,

      Sorry to hear that you too are having issues with MWB 3... (did you install the general release version, or by chance the "preview version" from the page linked above?).

      As far as installing or uninstalling applications in Safe Mode, that will not work for applications employing the .MSI files, the Windows Installer, as it is one of the Services not enabled in Safe Mode (here is a work-around to enable the WI in Safe Mode: https://www.raymond.cc/blog/uninstall-programs-packaged-with-windows-installer-in-safe-mode/ ).

      May I suggest that you first give Geek Uninstaller a try (in normal running mode); you can obtain it from (and read some reviews at) Softpedia (one of my two primary download sites): http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Geek-Uninstaller.shtml (the other is MajorGeeks - http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/geekuninstaller.html ). It does an excellent job (very nearly as well as the much-vaunted Revo Uninstaller, but is a great deal simpler -- and safe -- for the novice).

      If it is unable to do a "normal" uninstall, then you might try the "Forced Removal" option (highlight the application to be uninstalled, then Action —> Forced Removal).

      A reboot afterwards is recommended.

      Indeed, if the application's own removal process tells you that a reboot is required to complete the operation, then decline that option in order to allow Geek to complete its own removal tasks, THEN manually reboot (after Geek is done).

      I hope this is helpful; good luck.

      Regards,

      AJN

      P.S. No worries about your command of the English languish; it is far better than that of many nth-generation Americans... .

      • AJ North February 25, 2017 at 5:58 pm #

        Uh, that would be "the English language" -- Typos-R-Us. :-)

      • Marko3D March 9, 2017 at 6:20 pm #

        Dear AJN,

        Thanks for your kind response and sorry for being late in answering you.

        Regarding your question about software version, it was 3.0.6 xxx (can't remember the exact version number) but it wasn't in some beta "testing" stage it was the official release which is supposed to be without bugs downloaded from the official web page.

        Although I have solved the problem related with uninstallation I'll keep in mind your advice.

        By the way, uninstallation was completed successfuly (launched from the normal windows mode with full administrator privileges from a.k.a. "hidden" / built-in administrator account) BUT "unnoticed" with completely frozen uninstalation window as if nothing happens, followed by "manual" computer restart when MB "mysteriously" disappeared (without any notification about uninstalation completition) together with all its files.

        What is the cause of this whole problem, I can only speculate, maybe it was some system or driver incompatibility (I'm using Win 7 64bit) .. I don't know, but although I consider myself as lets say "advanced" user (clearly not an expert) who love to experiment with the system I do not dare to try this version again.

        Regards,
        Marko

    • AJ North March 9, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

      Hello Marko,

      Thanks for your kind reply; I am glad that your efforts were successful.

      If you haven't already, please see my post below from 2017.03.02 at 0642 regarding the current release of MWB (installation of which again required the complete uninstallation of the existing version on every Windows 7 & 8.1 box that I've worked on).

      (Incidentally, the Uninstall tool in CCleaner, an excellent and highly-recommended utility, is a convenient way of triggering an application's own uninstaller. One note of caution: stay AWAY from the Register Cleaner option; even though the CCleaner tool is relatively safe, it is very rarely necessary to "clean" the Registry from XP onward -- and often causes problems... .)

      With kind regards,

      AJN

  38. Edward Pienkos February 25, 2017 at 5:01 pm #

    My Malwarebytes preminm 3.0.6.The web protection is usually off.Even.
    When I try to Scan it,Sometimes the scan is on for an hour and will not
    work.What should I do to correct this problem?I never had this problem with
    Malwarebytes preminm 3.0.Please help.Is there a phone number we
    can use to get Tech help when we need it?

  39. AJ North March 2, 2017 at 6:42 am #

    Malwarebytes has been updated to version 3.0.6.1469 Build 1.0.75, digitally signed 2017.03.01. Along with the vendor's own site, https://www.malwarebytes.com/ , it can also be downloaded from Softpedia: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware.shtml . As was previously the case, uninstalling the current version and rebooting was required for a successful installation (Win7 Pro x64).

    • Larry March 2, 2017 at 11:11 pm #

      Have done update, without any change. Still with pop-up warning regarding web protection, and attempts to start result in "Starting". Now I understand why my computer is slower!

  40. ernies March 8, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

    As of today, 08mar2017, malwarebytes pro (version mb3-setup-consumer-3.0.6) is still a resource hog, causing random Windows 10 blue screens - forced restarts - freezing - slow performance. Upon arduous PC restart, it is a crapshoot whether mbam will load completely, or load partially (real-time scanning disabled or anti-ransomware disabled or anti-exploit disabled, etc). The malwarebytes pro 3.06 issue does not appear to be resulting from a conflict with any particular anti-virus software brand or version; since the issue is reported among various anti-virus software users (Kaspersky, McAfee, ESET, Avira, etc). I've been using Malwarebytes software since the beginning, and now experiencing major PC performance issues since Malwarebytes merged anti-malware, anti-exploit, and added anti-ransomware. My system is running Windows 10 Home, version 10.0.14393 Build 14393, 64 bit, 32 Gigs RAM. Yesterday, I was unable to complete installation of the latest version malwarebytes 3.0.6.1469-1075. The failed update trashed my earlier version. So, I had no choice but to uninstall malwarebytes 3.0.6 entirely. Very disappointing.

  41. Gerald Law March 14, 2017 at 6:26 pm #

    A few weeks ago I experienced the problem of Malwarebytes not allowing Web Protection to be switched on - it just sat there and said "starting" but nothing happened. After a lot of "messing" about, and several false starts, it appeared to have been solved and for about 3 weeks all has been well. However, today it has suffered a relapse. I tried running Adwcleaner and was "told" that my version was now out of date and invited me to click to download the latest version. This I did and got an error message following which the previous version appears to have been deleted from my computer. I have had enough of this farce! I now intend to remove all trace of Malwarebytes from my computer and rely on Windows Defender/Kaspersky to protect me.

  42. Larry Rosenberg March 20, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

    I have version 3.0.6 Premium and it doesn't update the definitions automatically. I have to do it. For a product I pay for
    this isn't right.

  43. Russ March 20, 2017 at 10:32 pm #

    Gerald,
    I had the same problem as well, the Web Protection never switches on, I even downloaded the 'supposed' fix, but it didn't work. I have switched back to version 2.xx and it is running smoothly. What pisses me off is that I'm a life-time subscriber and I can't even run the latest version. I too run Kaspersky and have sent my info to tech support with no satisfaction.

  44. wolfee March 22, 2017 at 11:57 am #

    I have 3.06 and after updating to this version I noticed my pings to game servers went up quite a bit. (34 ms to over 100 ms) I went into exclusions and added the directory containing the game I was playing and it made no difference. I also checked Task Manager and MBAM is at the top of the list for Memory usage (377 MB). I've had Malwarebytes for years and have the premium license. I'm on Windows 10 btw. If this issue rings a bell for anyone please let me know if there is a solution, other than uninstalling.

  45. clos501 March 23, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

    I upgraded to version 3.06 also and also started exhibiting the issues below after the upgrade. I am using a premium version of malwarebytes on Windows 10 Pro and also have Norton Internet Security installed.

    *high memory usage
    *notice from Malwarebytes that my web protection is turned off
    *notice from Malwarebytes that my exploit protection is turned off
    *notice from Malwarebytes that my malware protection is turned off

    I was able to resolve all the issues by going into the Startup Options in the settings section (under the Protection tab) enabling the "Delay Real-Time Protection when Malwarebytes starts". I chose the 60 seconds option in the drop down for how long to "Delay the Protection for" and since making this change I have not seen the issue above re-appear. Hope this helps.

  46. Bruce March 23, 2017 at 11:03 pm #

    I have had the same massive slowdown problems and even cursor freezes as many are reporting after upgrading to V 3.0.6. I recalled from past experience that when I tried the free Exploit Protection add-on some time ago I experienced similar slow down issues and when I quit using it the problems went away. As I recall the Ransomware option was also problematic. After a few reboots did not help I disabled the Exploit Protection option on the Malwarebytes main screen and attempted to do the same with the Ransom protection but that just went to grayed out status so I dunno. But voila, back up to normal processing speed!

    Because not all options are activated MWB reports that I am not fully protected but as I see it I am still as fully protected as I was before the upgrade. Can't guarantee it will work for everyone but it has worked for me twice now and it is pretty easy to give it a try.

    • THOMAS SMITH March 24, 2017 at 10:40 am #

      MALWAREBYTES 3 IS A PIECE OF CRAP... I EVEN HAD TO UNINSTALL MY VERSION 2,BECAUSE I KEPT GETTING A POPUP EVERY FEW MINUTES THAT ASKED ME TO INSTALL THE NEW VERSION.

  47. Freek Visser March 24, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

    After updating Malwarebytes 3.0 my system is significantly slower/

  48. Roger Dodger March 26, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

    I agree with the previous comment "MALWAREBYTES 3 IS A PIECE OF CRAP". I got a notice to install a new version (3) of Malwarebytes. I clicked install and the install program crashed leaving me with no new or older version of Malwarebytes.

    I finally found a copy of the latest 2 version and it installed fine. Then started the continual popups telling me to upgrade to version 3. Not likely.

    Reading through the above posts I found the "remove version 3 installation file". I never have much luck trying to change the attributes on locked out folders and files so I booted my Active Boot 7.5 CDROM, made my way to the version 3 installation file and deleted it.

    I unchecked the look for new version in my working version 2 and no more problems. If Malwarebytes is going EOL with version 2, without a usable upgrade, they will likely go EOC (End Of Company) at that time.

    Thanks to all that posted and helped end my version 3 upgrade hell!

  49. Dan March 26, 2017 at 9:11 pm #

    I just upgraded a couple days ago to 3.0.6 and already my computer has now frozen up 3 times to where I had to shutdown using the power button. I hate rebooting my computer because of all the things I keep open. If this keeps happening I will probably uninstall it or disable it until the folks at Malwarebytes can get out a more stable product. Before the upgrade I had Malwarebytes Antimalware and the Malwarebytes Ant-executable installed and never had an issue. I'm running with 32 gigs of RAM, so the memory problem is not an issue for me.

    This is why I'm always leery of software upgrades. It's fair to say I'm a bit disappointed.

    On another of my computers, I clicked on the upgrade and Malwarebytes kept crashing after. I had to completely uninstall and reinstall the new version 3.0.6.

  50. Allan March 26, 2017 at 11:09 pm #

    Just had another go with 3.06 after rolling back to 2. This time I tried clos501's suggestion of not having it start up at once - I set the delay to 120 seconds. I'm on Windows 8.1 and using Avast paid-for.
    1. On the update it behaved like a lamb.
    2. After a restart everything except the anti-malware started successfully - no freezing or blocking windows explorer, which is what it did to me the first time I tried.
    3. I tried shutting it down and restarting manually, but exactly the same thing happened.

    I've now gone from having anti-malware and nothing else to having everything except anti-malware. Go figure.

    I doubt if I'll be renewing my subscription unless they sort things rather thoroughly.

  51. John March 27, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

    I have a PC and a laptop with MWBS premium. Like most people I used the free version first then upgraded to the premier version. I have never had any problems with it up until last week (20/3/2017) UK. My laptop is often shutdown when not in use and from the Monday night on the date mentioned it become sluggish then froze! A few hours before this MWBS said it had detected PUP and other suspect programs and had quarantined them. Usually I get the odd one a month but getting 10 Plus I thought was unusual and therefore I thought something had slipped through and ran my anti virus and MWBS scan plus I checked all my hardware errors since the sudden freezing could be due to failing hardware. everything reported fine. The only way to get the laptop working again was to use the power button to restart but after 10 mins or so it would just freeze. I used clean master and was astonished that I had 4.5Gb in temp files which took an hour to clean! restarting was exactly the same 10 mins then it would freeze. I then check all installed programs and updates and decided to remove them for the whole of March (3 updates). This made little difference. Only having returned home and using my PC, where all updates need my permission to download and install including 3rd party programs. Of the programs that wanted updating was windows and MWBS, so believing the windows updates where the root of my laptop problems I just updated MWBS which required a restart. After this it ran a scan and found 30 unwanted programs! This made me suspicious since it has only found the odd one and soon as they where quarantined the PC froze! This is backed up weekly so I just restored it and everything was fine but now knowing it could be a MWBS problem I ran up my laptop and removed MWBS from the programs. It has been running fine ever since. The PC still has MWBS installed so I can monitor that. In the meantime I am waiting re re-install a trouble free MWBS on my Laptop. Both my laptop and PC is windows 7 so this is the first fight I have had with them since GWX. My AV is Mcafee Total Protection.

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