Avira is adding a crypto miner to its products as well

Martin Brinkmann
Jan 10, 2022
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Et Tu, Avira? Ashwin reported last week that Norton was adding a new component, called Norton Crypto, to its security products. Norton Crypto is a crypto currency miner that will run when the system is detected as idle. It appears that Avira is doing the same.

Avira Crypto
source: Avira

Avira Crypto is a crypto mining component that is integrated into (some?) Avira products.

Originally announced in October 2021, Avira Crypto was launched to help consumers "mine cryptocurrency more safely and easily, directly through the Avira platform".

Avira goes on to explain the ease of use of the integrated Crypto component in a blog post on the official Avira blog in October 2021.

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With Avira Crypto, coinminers can now turn idle time on their PCs into an opportunity to earn digital currency. It is designed to be simple to use, secure and reliable, enabling customers to mine for cryptocurrency with just a few clicks and avoid the general barriers that might otherwise prevent their entry into the cryptocurrency ecosystem.

The company created a FAQ on its support site that provides a few additional details on the integration. According to the FAQ, Avira Crypto is mining Ethereum on systems and comes with a personal wallet.

Avira does not reveal how much, if any, of the mined currency it is taking for itself. Norton revealed last week that it is taking 15% of the earned currency from Norton Crypto users.

Participation in Avira Crypto and Norton Crypto is voluntary. Security expert Brian Krebs notes that the voluntary nature "ultimately hinges on how these crypto programs are pitched and whether users really understand what they’re doing when they enable them".

Whether mining is profitable depends on a number of factors, including the cost of electricity but also wear and tear of the hardware.

Both companies have been critized for the integration of crypto mining components. Previously, security products blocked malicious attempts to run crypto miners on customer PCs. The integration may add a bit of revenue for the companies, but it may also impact the reputation of both companies.

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I installed the latest version of Avira Free on a system and it did not include Avira Crypto. Maybe it is being rolled out currently or it is limited to customers from specific regions at the time of writing.

Now You: what is your take on this? Think Avast is next?

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  1. John B said on January 10, 2022 at 11:04 am
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    Mining requires a pick axe and physical labor.

    Crypto fiat currencies require burning out video cards and jacking up prices.

    It’s not mining, it’s hashing and it doesn’t benefit humanity in any meaningful way. The people doing this should be removed from society.

    1. beemeup5 said on January 10, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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      Physical labor = human energy
      Cryptomining = electrical energy

      Human energy comes from burning food.
      Electrical energy comes from many sources, but most of it is from burning fuel.

      Literally everything is an energy conversion, whether it is converting food energy into labor, or electrical energy into crypto, nothing is generated out of thin air, except for traditional fiat, which banks literally print out of thin air with a few keystrokes. This is related to the biggest benefit certain crypto brings to humanity: True economic freedom.

      There is a very specific type of inflation which is arguably one of the greatest evils ever created by man. Some call it “quantitative easing”, many call it “diluting the currency supply”, most call it “money printing”, but few call it what it really is: Theft of the people’s purchasing power.

      No one works for money. What people actually work for is ‘purchasing power’. This is an _extremely_ important distinction, and the fact that most people are oblivious to the difference is the reason why they are also oblivious to why inflation is so evil. Let’s say you work for 8 hours a day, and that amount of labor gets you 4 days worth of food. This means you’ve made an agreement with your employer to exchange a specific amount of labor for a specific amount of purchasing power. But what if there was a third-party completely unrelated to either you or your employer, who has the power to benefit themselves by making it so that your same amount of blood and sweat now only gets you 3.5 days worth of food instead of 4? There would be a mass revolt! Yet this is exactly what central banks like the Federal Reserve and the IMF do when they print trillions of dollars to “stimulate” the economy, but the people don’t riot about this because they are placated and kept ignorant of what money actually is and how it works.

      For as long as currency has existed, there has always been an irresistible temptation to dilute it. First it was diluting the precious metal content in coins, and today it is printing money by billions and trillions. There didn’t exist a way to stop this from happening, until 2008, when the global financial crisis finally became the last straw for a certain individual, who decided to create a solution, and in 2009 Bitcoin was born. For the first time in human history, the fruits of the people’s labor can now rest secure in the hands of the people themselves. This is why people who truly understand cryptocurrencies believe it will change the world, because in many ways it already has. The Federal Reserve and the IRS came into existence in 1913, and after more than a hundred years they’ve amassed virtually unsurpassed power. Bitcoin is barely over ten years old, the great change is only just beginning.

      1. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 1:03 pm
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        @beemeup5: good comment. The currency evolution does not stop with Bitcoin/crypto-currencies. The world’s financial system is facing collapse, it has been bankrupted by bankers’ and investors’ greed, accelerated by the Great Deregulation set in train by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

        Governments/Central Banks will introduce Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) to replace fiat money. That will enable surveillance and complete financial control over every citizen.

        Furthermore, as many people’s job will be automated, there will be no need anymore for millions of us. In order to not let us starve to death (yep, they are considerate, the powers-that-be) they will give every one a Universal Basic Income (in CBDC, of course) and provide many services free of charge, provided you have the required nsocial credit score, which is determined by your level of compliance with the new rules set by the New World Order, which is now being put in place with Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset.

        We have gone “a bit” off topic, but sometimes that is healthy and/or necessary.

      2. MdN said on January 10, 2022 at 2:06 pm
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        Credit score? The West is not China, man. As for the rest, you make it sound like a bad thing. Do you also believe global warming and Covid are a fraud? And that Trump won the elections? And that the cold war ended? And that deities exist? And that people better, more educated and more creative than you should starve?

      3. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 2:44 pm
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        @MdN: yes !!! Covid is arguable the biggest scam in the history of mankind. It was carefully planned (there have been at least 11 “simulations” and “brainstorming” sessions mimicking exactly what happened in reality – how coincidental), and used as an excuse for the Great Reset.

        Climate change is real, but unfortunately it will be merged with Covid-19(84) to continue the mass psychosis of the world’s population and continue the Great Reset and New World Order.

        Social credit is an essential part of population control, and China is light years ahead and has shown how it is done.

        No Trump did NOt win the 2020 election because the election was rigged. Had it not been rigged a demented old man who could not remember what he said 5 minutes prior, whose campaign rallies had to be canceled because he could not enthuse the crowds, and for whom ballot papers kept coming out of the woordwork, then Trump would have won. There is no democracy in the U.S., any more than there is in China.

        Keep living in your fairy tale bubble that has been spun for you by the never-lying-government and its agencies, it is much more comforting that way, rather than try to think independently.

      4. Ray said on January 11, 2022 at 6:19 am
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        Yes totally. I drink bleach everyday and have not got any covid. This is a sham… ?

      5. Raven Tate said on January 24, 2022 at 2:04 am
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        Lol people pretending that covid is a great scam and pulling out their asses simulations as the explanation than using emotional arguments or vague happening for the rest. Sounds like they’re trying to accelerate things to a Civil War for the Great Reset. I guess that’s why they pretend US has no democracy like China’s even though it clearly has more than China’s or most third-world democracies. I guess the human’s pessimistic bias is at play here which news always exploit? How silly.

      6. Frederico said on January 11, 2022 at 1:26 pm
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        You almost won a goldwin point. Try harder. The “Great Reset” does exist and is promoted openly. This will affect you too sooner than later. Wake up. Be a man.

      7. semce said on January 10, 2022 at 2:18 pm
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        Get out your foil hats.

      8. Tom Hawack said on January 10, 2022 at 2:44 pm
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        @Klaas, a catastrophic scenario that would be. Personnaly I’d consider then barter economy as the last area of commercial privacy and freedom. I’d have to track those who need more what I have than I need what they have to make good business (sarcasm).

        Whatever the system it always ends up to the individual’s probity. You can make good out of evil and vice versa.

        As for Avira, Norton and those to come, embracing crypto mining, they’re all in their logic. As long as you can avoid it freedom remains free I guess. My choice is and I presume always will be to avoid such companies, even if there’s a option. Because I just cannot approve such business.

      9. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 2:45 pm
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        @Tom Hawack: long time no speak, how are ya?
        I agree to stay away from those companies, I most certainly do too.

      10. Tom Hawack said on January 10, 2022 at 3:18 pm
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        @Klaas Vaak, long time on my part. But I do read articles and comments as always, and I see you’re quite fluent in pertinent and peaceful analysis and critics. Things are moving fast, especially in technology and looks like I’m increasingly facing topics as a racer staying behind because out of breath. Fot the worse but also, I hope, for the best, even if anyway fashion has never been my cup of tea. We try to stay on track.

      11. Frederico said on January 11, 2022 at 1:29 pm
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        Yes, but the average Joe will fall into it. Avira will mine crypto with his computer even if Joe doesnt even know what is crypto.

  2. beemeup5 said on January 10, 2022 at 11:13 am
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    I suppose rather than getting tricked into mining for scammers, you can leave it to the professionals! /s

    1. aaa said on January 10, 2022 at 11:52 am
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      LOL

  3. Sol Shine said on January 10, 2022 at 11:22 am
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    Avira was the last anti-virus company that I trusted.

    Microsoft defender is good enough, but Microsoft has no respect for it’s customers privacy, and it is integrating more cloud services in it’s Ant-virus programs that even collect users content and names of files.

    Sadly for the last few decades, the IT sector has been going downhill.
    It’s not fun anymore.

    1. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 1:06 pm
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      @Sol Shine: Micro$oft does not consider home users of Windows as customers; Micro$oft considers it does home users a favor by letting them use Windows, which is why its updating/patching activity is such a nightmare for home users.

      1. Sol Shine said on January 10, 2022 at 8:14 pm
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        @Klaas Vaak
        Home users still need to pay for Windows and Office installed on their computers.
        And Microsoft is turning Windows and other products into a advertisement plarform for users eyeballs. So they still make money off of home users.
        To keep companies using their products, they must keep home users using their products.

        The reason they are not afraid to abuse home users (using for as testsers for new Windows versions, and abusing their privacy) is because they have a monopoly.

        Don’t expect politicians to do anything about this.

    2. ShintoPlasm said on January 10, 2022 at 1:55 pm
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      @Sol: Why not trust ESET? They’ve got a very good track record.

      1. Sol Shine said on January 10, 2022 at 8:01 pm
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        @ShintoPlasm
        Thanks for the tip. I will check them out.

  4. aaa said on January 10, 2022 at 11:24 am
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    Just another irrelevant security company trying to survive.

    If you use uBlock Origin, keeping Windows Defender active all the time, browsing responsibly, or better – moving to safer non-Windows OS like Linux – you could get rid bloated security apps from your computer and save your money more.

    1. Akina said on January 10, 2022 at 3:15 pm
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      Exactly.

  5. Mystique said on January 10, 2022 at 11:37 am
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    Seriously what sort of rubbish is this?! Symantec also have the nerve to take 15% of the crypto too??!!! That’s ridiculous. This is clearly just trying to take advantage of their demographic which is non tech savvy customers. If you are going to mine data do it on your own terms without some man in the middle clown skimming money off of your mining.
    Norton has always been a resource hog so it doesn’t surprise me really. What worse is that you also pay for their lousy product and Avira apparently is now no better.

    This is all just a sorry attempt by antivirus manufacturers to clutch onto some relevancy and take advantage of their dwindling customer base that buys their product in good faith based on their name as an established brand in the mainstream marketplace.
    It’s clear Microsoft and the good software vendors have had an impact on the market and this is the result of that.

    1. BungHole said on January 10, 2022 at 12:55 pm
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      I would be surprised if anyone under 40 years old pays for AV in 2021. But yeah, the irony is strong when condoms are spreading STD’s and Doctors infect you instead of cure you. Gonna make some popcorn and watch this explode in the greedy companies faces, then watch and laugh when they all just die. The only people who need AV are the ones that click on YES. ABSOLUTELY. 100% DEFINITELY OK. when something asks to be installed in order for him/her/it to watch bare butts and boobies.

  6. Sebas said on January 10, 2022 at 12:01 pm
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    Kaspersky anti virus, their base AV, does not have it, but this worrisome. Please report if other AV’s go the same way. And yes I know Putin reads all my files. Doesn’t matter for me one ????.

    1. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 1:09 pm
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      @Sebas: Putin reads all your files? How lucky that Biden is incapable of reading anymore and that he is of such a high ethical standard that he has stopped the NSA from spying on its citizens. Only evil Putin and Xi engage in that sort of reprehensible activity.

      1. MdN said on January 10, 2022 at 2:08 pm
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        Biden will not put you in prison for posting a caricature of him, sharing a Rammstein video, or for not being a Christian. He’s still an American, but not too bad for one.

      2. Klaas Vaak said on January 10, 2022 at 2:33 pm
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        @MdN: true, but he will put you in prison until you die (torture at no extra charge added, with his compliments) for exposing U.S. war crimes abroad. But yeah, that is just a minor issue.

      3. Sebas said on January 10, 2022 at 8:07 pm
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        @Klaas vaak (genoeg) Yes Putin. The one who so very eloquently cut into pieces the suicidal wokeness of western society in that famous interview with two British journalists.

        No wonder the Western woke elite hates him. The only little thing is that he is a cold blooded murderer. In that aspect he is ahead of the western woke. Because woke = hate and exclusion.

        After I downloaded that interview, and listen to the Russian National Anthem every day, Kaspersky has become 40% faster. Een aanrader.

  7. Linux said on January 10, 2022 at 12:46 pm
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    Linux.

    That is all.

    Bye.

    PS: Linux.

    1. Dumbledalf said on January 10, 2022 at 3:24 pm
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      You should install “arch btw” it’s the best Linux.

      https://distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=arch+btw

    2. ShintoPlasm said on January 10, 2022 at 3:36 pm
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      *Laughs in macOS*

  8. Shiva said on January 10, 2022 at 1:27 pm
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    I suppose there is probably a Murphy’s law applied to bloatware, like:
    “If a software component is disliked by users but can be a source of income for companies, the probability that all competing companies will install that component in the medium term approaches 1”

    Nadella’s corollary for market dominance:
    “If a Windows’s feature will be disliked by users, there is no even need to calculate the probability that Microsoft will install it if it is a potential source if income”

  9. Coriy said on January 10, 2022 at 1:30 pm
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    Question, does the 15% or so, that they will “charge” for the use of your computer to mine the crypto help pay for your anti-virus subscription / license, or is it just an extra function?

    1. semce said on January 10, 2022 at 2:24 pm
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      I was thinking the same. If Norton et al are going to cash in on your investment in hardware and utility cost of using it they should offer something for it such as reducing your cost. Similarly Concast wants me to switch to paper billing but they don’t offer me anything in return so they can just keep printing my invoices and mailing them out to me.

  10. semce said on January 10, 2022 at 2:25 pm
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    Should be switch from paper billing.

  11. Avi said on January 10, 2022 at 2:35 pm
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    Depending on GPU, mining on a regular PC may not even cover the electricity cost. People who fall for this scam do not know anything about mining, and may think that they’re making some money out of nothing. Obviously, these “antivirus” vendors do not care about any of this, they’re taking their 15% regardless.

    1. Geo said on January 10, 2022 at 3:31 pm
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      That’s what makes this great for Norton/Avira (and why it feels so dang scummy). They’ve outsourced the electrical costs to their customers and get to take 15%.

  12. 1337 said on January 10, 2022 at 3:30 pm
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    Let the class action lawsuits commence!

    I have nothing further to add, Klaas covered the rest.

  13. Bob said on January 10, 2022 at 4:02 pm
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    Someone aughtta tell the users what crypto-mining will do to the power consumption of their computer, because most of them probably have no idea whatsoever.

    I’m not into that, but I am into Blender, another program that significantly stresses the machine, and, watching with a watt meter, when rendering starts, power consumption goes up by a factor of almost 5. Goes from ~50 watts at the desktop, to 230 while rendering.

    So, you may very well be burning twice as much power as any so-called revenue that is being generated, and if most of it is going to someone else, not to you, then they are ripping you off even harder.

  14. John G. said on January 10, 2022 at 4:42 pm
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    Amazing weird product’s decision, however, is this legally possible or not? Probably this is the perfect way to finish free software, while this can be considered a paid method, isn’t it? :[

  15. Dumbledalf said on January 10, 2022 at 4:51 pm
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    Just uninstalled it from my PC and phone. It was nice while it lasted, but I don’t want part in any of that crypto/NFT/Metaverse crap.

  16. Henk said on January 10, 2022 at 4:54 pm
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    Funny to see the comments of some crypto believers here. How far can one be removed from the fundamentals of socio-economic reality? These people are in for a very rude awakening within a few years from now. Just like we today can look back in amazement at the hardly believable (an inevitably doomed) Dutch “tulip bulb investment craze” of the 17th century, so future historians will look back at the 21th century “bitcoin craze” as one of the hugest, most unbelievable pyramid schemes ever. And just like we wonder about the collective hysteria of those dumb Dutch who invested millions in basically worthless tulip bulbs, so those future historians will wonder why people were ever blind enough to collectively invest millions in basically worthless bitcoins.

    As for our software, no reason to worry. Once the bitcoin craze has fallen through the wafer-thin layer of believability that still supports it, those “mining” components will disappear as quickly as they appeared. It’s just a silly waste of energy, after all.

    1. ULBoom said on January 10, 2022 at 9:20 pm
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      Buy and sell on the swings. I’m not into it but don’t really see how cyrpto is any different than, say, collectibles except with collectibles you own a piece of art or whatever vs. conventional investing in performance of some company which is investing in itself to produce a product.

      I played with investing in bankrupt companies for a while. Why? Not because they’re worth anything but because their stock prices right after declaring bankruptcy follow very predictable patterns of swings and one could easily purchase high numbers of shares and make decent money quickly if you watch these investments hour by hour, day by day.

      Maybe I don’t get it but I see crypto as one of the multitude of investment games out there vs. anything close to a buy and hold instrument. Too much work for me these days.

      1. Dumbledalf said on January 11, 2022 at 3:34 pm
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        @ULBoom

        For me crypto is one of these “speculative” methods of earning money. They come and go, nothing is set in stone, I think those who are invested in this and have no backup plan may one day be left with nothing.

  17. Anonymous said on January 10, 2022 at 4:57 pm
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    I just use uBlock Origin, Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit together, the days of “premium” anti-virus software is long gone IMO since a good ad-blocker can prevent a lot of malware by itself. Plus all three of those are free.

  18. Rick said on January 10, 2022 at 5:29 pm
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    “Both companies”?

    I think you omitted a crucial bit of information, unless I overlooked it: Norton acquired Avira last year (as you pointed out in an earlier article). That pretty much explains it.

  19. ShintoPlasm said on January 10, 2022 at 5:54 pm
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    Martin: NortonLifeLock have acquired Avira not a long time ago – it’s no surprise that Norton is merging elements of its product into Avira.

  20. John G. said on January 10, 2022 at 6:21 pm
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    I wonder in a near future a W12 or later version with some crypto miner inside as a requirement to be installed, such a kind of paid method to use its license. I wish it won’t be possible. :[

  21. ULBoom said on January 10, 2022 at 8:45 pm
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    Avira is part of NortonLifeLock along with Bullgard. Owned by a bunch of Arab investors for years. Pissed off about “security” software that’s sucky anyway? Try decaf.

    The weird stuff mentioned above would mostly require such a degree of cooperation the whole planet would be involved. Kinda contradicts the definition of conspiracy.

    It will get much, much worse.

  22. Yuliya said on January 10, 2022 at 9:16 pm
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    Complaints? Surprises? Why? The writing’s been on the wall for years. The antivirus (and all its derivates) branch has been the most user abusive since forever. Ditch them, you do not need these products. The only reason you are installing them is because you want them. If you really need an antivirus Windows (8/10/11, and 7 automatically installs it from WU) already ships with the excellent Defender (formerly MSE) – this is all you need.

    I’m honestly surprised as to why Microsoft just doesn’t entirely kill this parasitic industry. Defender in its default configuration should outright block any takeover attempt, unless explicitely configured via a policy. This malicious behaviour should therefore be blocked and removed by Defender. I seriously hope Microsoft steps in on this whole nonsense and puts an end to it once and for all.

    1. Anonymous said on January 11, 2022 at 12:37 am
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      I’m honestly surprised you don’t know it’s not allowed to monopoly certain functions in OS. Just Google ‘microsoft fined for monopoly’. Not only Windows, other OSes also don’t allow that.

  23. Anonymous said on January 10, 2022 at 11:55 pm
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    Anti-virus software is dying out, so they are trying to add more useless crap to justify it.

  24. Anonymous said on January 11, 2022 at 12:04 am
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    Good that were not in an critical atmospheric heating age, where every unnecessary transformation from higher forms of energy ino heat brings us a small step closer to a state we really do not want. cryptomining is just condensed idiocy, greed kills brain as usual.

  25. ????????????? said on January 11, 2022 at 12:10 am
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    Fortunately, ordinary home PC forgot about antiviruses 10-15 years ago.

  26. Anonymous said on January 11, 2022 at 4:14 am
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    I recall when the dot com bubble was about to burst, a listed company who made sausage casings and fish food (yep you read that right) announced they were to start an internet division, they provided no further info, yet their shares shot up 200% (albeit from a low base of ~10c).

    The crytpo mining boom has that same sort of irrationality.

    Issue a new coin watch it soar in value.

    ‘Investors’ in crypto have adopted a can’t lose mentality, ride out the bumps and dips and wait for it to take off again.

    IMO there is a Tulip inevitability about this boom.

  27. common sense computing said on January 12, 2022 at 4:26 pm
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    GAFAM isn’t far behind in abusing users for their sole profit. This is only the beginning.

  28. Jony said on January 12, 2022 at 9:33 pm
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    ha ha! now i can say that i live calm with the viruses on windows of what with an antivirus installed

  29. allen said on January 14, 2022 at 3:24 am
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    Coming soon: Avira partnering with top malware groups! (as in, those who create it, not detect it)

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