WhatsApp makes data-sharing with Facebook mandatory
An option to ignore the changes or don't agree with them is not provided. In fact, users who don't want to agree to the new terms have only one option, and that is to stop using WhatsApp altogether as the changes are mandatory.
The key information listed in the notification sound harmless enough:
- Information about WhatsApp's service and how the company processes the data.
- Information on how businesses can use Facebook hosted services to store and manage their Whatsapp chats.
- Information on how WhatsApp partners with Facebook to offer integrations across Facebook company products.
The notification that I received did not include the third option, but others have received it, e.g. as seen on XDA Developers.
WhatsApp does not reveal which information it shares with other Facebook companies or third-parties.
Now You: Do you use WhatsApp, or do you prefer a different messaging service?
It’s very simple: when an internet service is free, then you, the user, are the product. So don’t use these “social” media if you don’t want to be prostituted.
I don’t really have the chose since all my friends, my family and business partners use WhatsApp.
WhatsApp is messaging service not social media
Not sure about Telegram though.
And you agree on every position and undisclosed number of beneficiaires…
Never used Whatsapp, for obvious reasons. Instead, since several years now, I have Signal.
Is this US only? I haven’t seen it in Europe yet.
Already seen it in the UK.
If i’m in the EU nothing changes?
According to Facebook, nothing changes in regard to data sharing for EU users (no sharing with Facebook).
I live in the EU and still got the popup. It doesn’t matter anyway, Facebook will do whatever they want with their internal data, who is going to check?!?!
asd, so true!
Fortunately, I have no friends to chat to. My privacy is saved.
It’s kinda sad.
This is a paid for app. I don’t see anyone wanting to pay for it. If i paid for it thats fine but trying to convince all of my friends and the rest of the world to pay for it is another thing.
It’s great that you don’t need a phone number or email for the app though unlike telegram which pretty much is somewhat of an identifiable weakness imho.
So facebook takes an encrypted privacy based chat app and exploits it into a data mining operation, no surprises here.
I assumed they’d already been eaten by FB; they’ve had five years to do it one tiny bite at a time.
Our kids use it, I don’t. If they get spammed by FB, they won’t be happy but what’s the choice? A huge number of users going elsewhere doesn’t seem that likely.
Spam/ads that match message content by coincidence could be the end of integration. FB’s trust factor is below zero and they’d never talk their way out of that. If it even matters; do most users know what WhatsApp’s main feature is?
It’s not “All my friends are there!”
Just saw the notification yesterday. I’m Malaysian.
I also had seen the message myself and immediately chose to close whatsapp and consider my options.
Selling whatsapp to facebook wasn’t very bright. Sure financially it was great but it doesn’t rate high morally but morals don’t pay the bills I guess. I know a number of former developers of whatsapp haven’t been pleased with the sale and direction of Whatsapp. This reeks of insecurities and bullspit.
No chance. All my family, friends, colleagues and neighbours are on WhatsApp. There’s no way I’ll be able to convince even 10% of them to move to Telegram.
I am glad I never used it..I hardly use Facebook and that is only on laptop…my phone is free of this track-fest called Facebook.
Yeah that’s all well and good but if you have a lot of friends and family that use it, it’s going to be difficult to make them switch to something else, and even if you do, how long before that alternative turns into another WhatsApp.
Any friends and family who will only communicate with me via some sketchy social platform, are not the friends and family I value that much, so no matter to me.
“Data sharing”, another innocent-sounding buzzword like “telemetry” for SPYWARE.
How’s your Social Score, comrade?
Just a few apps I have looked at:
Signal, shazzlechat, edge messenger and session messenger.
Session messenger seems to be the simpler to uptake since you don’t need an email or phone number.
Convincing people to use any other app other than WhatsApp is frustrating and then you have to consider the long term usage and if it will meet the needs of all.
Do you prefer a different messaging service?
Yes, the one I was born with: talking face to face.
All this social BS has ruined our ability to actually be social.
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/produc … prise-bbme
As with many other popular software and service in our life. The problem mostly isn’t the lack of alternatives but the number of users. You could switch to a more sane messaging service but what about your friends and family? Could you persuade them to make the switch? What’s the point of switching to an alternative if people in your circle don’t want to use it?
Keybase is part of zoom. BBM is abandoned by Blackberry.
Signal based on same protocol from Whisper as is WA.
Session based on signal protocol but will quickly implement their own Session protocol(different)
Telegram (Russia) is an alternative to US based messengers :-)