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Windows 8: Start Screen Not Final

If you had the chance to play around with the Windows 8 developer preview that Microsoft released publicly last month you have noticed that it feels different from previous versions of the operating system in many regards. This can be largely attributed to the new Metro start screen that pops up whenever you start the operating system on your computer. This start screen is optimized heavily for touch based devices. Users who use mouse and keyboard as their primary means of working on a computer have commented on and criticized the start screen. At the top of the complains list is the inability to disable Metro Start natively, missing scroll wheel support for the vertical scrollbar, the inability to close programs in Metro and that it takes longer to load programs or files that are not regularly used.

Microsoft responded to some of the criticism in a large blog post at the Building Windows 8 blog. The company dodged the question if it will be possible to turn off Metro to use the desktop exclusively. Some user concerns were addressed on the other hand. haitanya Sareen, Microsoft program manager lead of the Core Experience Evolved team, noted that users will be able to close applications in Metro, and that Microsoft is working on improving mouse support as well.

I do not want to paraphrase all that has been said in the article, but would like to address two issues that I consider most important. The first one is a paragraph that compares the touch debate to the mouse debate in the 1980s.

The debate around touch today is looking eerily like the debate in the 1980s over whether a mouse was a gimmick, a productivity time waster, or an innovation in the user experience. We say this knowing that many comments have been emphatic about the superiority of the mouse over touch. Unlike when the mouse was introduced—before desktop publishing programs came along there were few use cases for the mouse other than early paint programs—today we are surrounded by touch screens—at the airport, the gas station, the movie theater, every cash register, and of course, on our phones. The one place touch has not yet become mainstream is on the most capable of all the devices you use. Just like the introduction of the mouse, innovations like this do not happen without new OS support, new apps, and new hardware. We believe that, as with the mouse, we will see touch augmenting, but not replacing, most every aspect of the PC experience over time. Achieving this starts with the Windows 8 Developer Preview. So with that, let’s start the dialog about how things will evolve, not just in the Windows core user experience, but in hardware and apps as well.

The issue that I have with this approach is that most desktop users do not have touch, and won't for a long time. I do not have statistics on average times a monitor is used in a desktop or business environment, but it is likely that it is a long time.

While it is fine and dandy that users find touch based devices almost everywhere, they do not find them where it matters most: their workplace.

Another aspect that seems to get overlooked is that it is obviously easier to buy additional peripherals, say a mouse, than a new monitor. Not only is the former a lot cheaper (I do not have figures for the early 80s though), but it is also completely opt-in. If you do not want to work with a mouse, you do not have to.

The second issue I have is about something that Microsoft did not address, but that many users would like to know. Will Windows 8 have a feature to disable, turn off or bypass Metro Start? Considering that Microsoft did not mention it completely, my initial reaction is that it won't. Chaitanya even mentions the question in the second paragraph of the post, but fails to provide an answer for that.

Lets take a look at some of the - many - user comments that followed the blog post.

Xpclient writes:

The big difference between Windows 9x, Windows 2000/XP and between Windows 7/8 is choice. In earlier versions of Windows, UI and design changes were not forced on us. We had the option to use Program Manager and File Manager even in Windows XP. We had the option to use Classic Start Menu in Windows Vista. The newer OSes seem to FORCE what Microsoft thinks is best for us and leave no option/choice to return to the older interface. That is Microsoft's single biggest shortcoming in UI design and user experience. Another thing Microsoft needs to learn is that user interfaces not need to constantly see radical overhauls, they need to evolve building on what was built previously. Don't push the reset button far too often and start everything from scratch. You don't realize how annoying users find it when working UI features that people use everyday in their work was entirely gone instead of simply being turned off or disabled by default. No one's going to complain about Windows being more customizable. Instead, you make it less customizable, remove what's working previously and on which considerable time has been spent on in previous releases and then say to these users, this is it, to simplify we just had to eliminate features. Take it or leave it.

Windowsfan has positive things to say:

I actually like the idea of using the Metro Start screen to search for apps. the full-screen view can present the user with more apps at one time (about 20) while the start menu can only show 14. Also, the "tap windows key and type to search" approach is fast and simple. More attractive+Live Tiles for application updates+presents the user with more at once = a solid win for the Start screen, in my opinion. BUT, perhaps instead of forcing us to switch screens when we want to perform a search from the desktop, you could only bring up the Search charm menu at the side, and have us choose apps from there. This approach would make searching for apps via search less complex and jarring. I DO have beef with your taskbar though:

tNO criticizes the new concept:

With the new design you leave the "task oriented" concept behind and move back to an app centric approach that in my opinion isn't modern.

I don't want to start apps. I wan't to do something with my PC. Were is this document I was working on yesterday? I don't find it in the new Start screen. Where is this tool I was using earlier? Oh, I have to search again, and again... You call it improved search? Why? Because I have to filter content manually again like in the 90's?

A strange fact that comes to mind while reading this article is, that your data shows that people like to use the taskbar as a launcher but the taskbar isn't present when you turn on Windows 8. The Start screen hides the taskbar. And on the other side you showed that people don't like to pin apps to the Start menu but now, this is the only thing they can do on the new Start screen. I don't get that logic.

And what about other basic features like power off or restart? Did people use this less often in Windows 7? Or why did you removed this functionality?

Part of the new Start screen as we know it yet is this hover menu when you put the mouse pointer in the lower left corner. Not that the functionality is hidden to the user but it also feels very uncomfortable. It is one of the most important UI elements but does work like no other element in Windows. Nowhere else is such a menu that you don't have to open, that pops up automatically from nowhere. It just doesn't feel right.

Microsoft in the mean time has published the second part of the start screen series. You can read it here.

It too makes several arguments that I cannot really agree with. Probably the biggest is this one:

But, when you’re launching a new app, you’re leaving the thing you’re currently doing. So we wanted to take advantage of the whole screen to make launching and switching apps as efficient as possible. The full-screen Start gives you the power and flexibility to launch more apps with a single click.

I cannot agree with it, for a number of reasons. For instance, I start programs that I want to run in the background. This includes the Thunderbird email client, Skype, other communication software and programs that automatically run tasks for me. I do not need to see their interface until they notify me that I have received mail, a call or whatever.

Another element here is that I have a large monitor, and that I like to have multiple apps open at the same time, for instance Firefox and my feed reader and sometimes maybe an always on top video that I watch while working. I cannot do that with Metro, it seems.

Do not get me wrong though. Metro is surely damn fine for touch based devices, but I cannot really see myself working with it in a desktop environment. I will stick with Windows 7 if Microsoft won't add options to disable or bypass Metro Start. I'd also like to predict that the majority of desktop users who worked with other Windows systems before will be shocked when they see the new user interface. Check out Windows 8 News for more coverage. You can download Windows 8 from here.





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    Comments

    1. Bart Degryse said on October 5, 2011 at 11:56 am
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      I use windows as a programmer. It’s very common for me (probably 90% of the time) to have at least six programs open at the same time on my dual monitor screens. Not just for fun, but because I use content in at least four of them at the same time. A common example is Visual Studio (to do the programming) + Word (containing the technical analysis for the project I’m working on) + EMS PostgreSQL Tool (an IDE to the database backend) + Excel (containing csv data provided by external sources that should get processed by the application I’m programming) + Novell Groupwise (to stay in touch with my (internal) customers) + Firefox (eg for consulting api references).
      For most of these applications I fail to see how touch would be an added value (maybe it would for browsing) and I completely fail to see how I will be able to see four of such programs at the same time on my screens with W8.
      I also fail to see why our company would have to dump hundreds of perfectly good screens in favour of touch enabled screens just because Microsoft gets app minded. Almost all of our personnel spends 80% of their time editing texts (we’re a publisher) and touch won’t help them much at that.

    2. kktkkr said on October 5, 2011 at 12:35 pm
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      Microsoft is probably trying too hard to sell this OS for touchscreen users. Perhaps they should call it Windows Touch.

      (Yes, there are other gimmicks but I don’t think they are showing enough care for their desktop users at all.)

    3. Mushaf said on October 5, 2011 at 3:08 pm
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      > I will stick with Windows 7 if Microsoft won’t add options to disable or bypass Metro Start.

      Count me in.

      When I was trying Windows 8 developer preview Metro start screen was fun to me on day one. On day two it was annoying. On day three it felt like a total disaster. On day four I found MetroController, fortunately.

      Metro UI is fine on Windows Phone (the new ‘mango’ update is great). Might be good on tablets too (I don’t own one so I don’t care at this moment). But desktop should remain as desktop. There are still a lot of things to improve in a desktop environment. The folks at MS should focus on those things rather than forcing a big, ugly, useless start screen on their users in the name of innovation.

    4. kalmly said on October 5, 2011 at 5:05 pm
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      Bring Bill back. Please.

    5. montuos said on October 5, 2011 at 8:55 pm
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      “Windowsfan has positive things to say:
      “I actually like the idea of using the Metro Start screen to search for apps. the full-screen view can present the user with more apps at one time (about 20) while the start menu can only show 14.”

      I don’t know what sort of device Windowsfan is using, but *my* start menu shows more than 40 items before it has to start scrolling. The more I hear about Windows 8, the less I want to use it.

    6. Jason said on October 5, 2011 at 9:08 pm
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      I’m really liking Ubuntu-Linux the more I use it. Especially the new Oneiric Ocelot version (11.10).

      A lot of the things people are complaining about in Windows 8 are not an issue in Ubuntu. For example, Thunderbird checks for emails in the background, whether the GUI has been started or not. And the Taskbar/Launcher has really intuitive auto-hide capabilities. And the UI changes have resulted in great space-saving features that create a lot of extra room on small-screen laptops. Plus it is so much easier to keep the software up to date. I don’t have to do anything, no hunting down software installers, no waiting for updates to install on shutdown. I’m able to reinstall the OS anytime without bloatware, no license key required. I hate having to rely on OEM hidden partitions. And no one ships OEM-Windows on CD/DVD anymore with the computer purchase.

      I find myself wanting to actually use Ubuntu instead of Windows when I need to go on the computer. I’ve been trying Ubuntu with a dual-boot setup.

      I’m probably just going to switch to Ubuntu instead of staying with Windows.

      1. montuos said on October 5, 2011 at 9:13 pm
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        Yeah, I made that switch 5 years ago at home (Kubuntu here). Sadly, it’s not usually an option for the office unless you work for yourself.

    7. Dubya75 said on October 6, 2011 at 2:54 pm
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      Imagine this: You sit at your desk at home or at work, with your touch screen monitor in front of you.
      You launch Outlook. Can you operate Outlook with your fingers? I think not! So you switch to using your mouse & keyboard.
      You launch Photoshop. Can you use it with your fingers? No, so again you switch to mouse & keyboard.
      You need to edit some HTML in Notepad. Can you do this on the touch screen? No…

      At home, you launch your favourite game. Can you play it on your touch screen? HELL NO! So you throw your touch screen monitor out the window, uninstall Windows 8 and re-install Windows 7. Problem solved.
      Note to self – replace PC with Mac.

    8. vistahunt said on October 13, 2011 at 1:14 pm
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      Sometimes new feature can be problematic also. It is better to know what features you will get in New Windows 8. Check out

      http://www.vistahunt.com/Innovative-features-in-Windows-8.html

      Microsoft is working hard to give new features in Windows 8.

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