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Microsoft Talks Ribbon, Metro UI in Windows 8

Since the beginning of last month, Microsoft started pushing out blog posts over at the Building Windows 8 blog. This is more or less a repeat of the marketing efforts when the Windows 7 operating system was developed back in 2009. The long articles sometimes offer interesting insight into the decision making process, and more often than not into changes, improvements and new features that will make their way into the next version of the Windows operating system.

Up until now Microsoft has revealed that they will improve the file management basics of the operating system, improve Windows Explorer with a new ribbon user interface, add ISO and VHD mounting and switch to a new Metro style desktop interface.

Especially the ribbon interface of Windows Explorer and the Metro UI have received criticism both in the form of comments on the official blog but also on Twitter and third party sites that reported about the changes.

Steven Sinofsky acknowledges that Microsoft knew that those two topics would receive criticism, especially from readers of the blog and followers on Twitter, and not so much from average users.

When you look at the comment count, you will notice that the Windows Explorer announcement post received more than 1100 comments, which is double the size of the article with the second largest amount of comments.

The post addresses the criticism without going into much detail.

Without repeating the first post, I would add that we do believe we have taken into account many of the criticisms we were certain would surface. We chose the ribbon mechanism, and to those that find that a flawed choice, there isn’t much we can do other than disagree.

It is obviously difficulty to argue about new user interfaces but simply stating that Microsoft disagrees with the critics is not going to help "sell" the new interface. It is clear however that Microsoft is intent to go forward with the change, even though Mr. Sinofsky mentioned that Microsoft continues to refine the commands, settings and graphics.

One thing is sure though, Windows Explorer will ship with a ribbon interface.

Metro style, which has not received quite as many comments, will have a much bigger impact than Windows Explorer. Users will boot into Metro style, and it is not clear yet if they can opt-out of it to load the standard desktop right instead on Windows start.

Users who do not want to use Windows Explorer can download and install file management tool alternatives. With Metro UI, that does not seem to be possible.

Metro for Microsoft is a "reimagining of Windows". A phrase that is used several times on the blog. It is not as simply as saying that Metro is the successor of Windows Aero, as it appears to be more than that for Microsoft.

For Windows 8, Metro style means a new type of app—an app that learns from and improves upon the current (and most popular) platform.

Microsoft is "fairly certain" that users will warm up to Metro once they are able to use it.

That diversity allows us to say with confidence that going from Metro style to the desktop will be harmonious—as harmonious as switching apps or sites is today. It will take orchestration at the top level to make moving seamless—that’s why you see things like switching between apps, snapping apps, or even using ALT+TAB between apps, and the desktop itself, all mechanisms that just work.

You can see Metro in action here:

What Microsoft fails to address, and likely for a reason, is how Metro and the standard desktop operations will play together on a day to day basis. While it seems possible to add program shortcuts, and maybe even files or folders to one of the Metro widgets on the screen, it looks as if it is more complicated to access folders and files that are not. How fast can you access programs that are not linked directly, and is that approach faster than using the standard start menu? How well do windows integrate into Metro? If I open a window, will it be shown in front of Metro? Will I use Alt-Tab to switch between windows? Without a taskbar visible, that seems to be one of the options remaining.

Many questions are left unanswered at this point in development. We might get some answers from the Build conference later this month, as Microsoft intents to reveal a lot about Windows 8 there.

I personally do not think it is all as bad as some users paint it. I only do hope that Microsoft adds the right level of customization to the operating system to please all kinds of users.





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    Comments

    1. ReX said on September 6, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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      Sadly, they are never going to admit Ribbon was a huge mistake.

    2. kalmly said on September 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm
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      See here: ” . . . I would add that we do believe we have taken into account many of the criticisms we were certain would surface. We chose the ribbon mechanism, and to those that find that a flawed choice, there isn’t much we can do other than disagree.” Read: We knew beforehand you wouldn’t like it and we don’t give a rat’s ass.

      Users will warm up to Win8 the same way they warmed up to Win7. The purchase of a new computer will equal a “sale” of Win8. MS will eventually stop supporting Win7, and all Windows users will be stuck with Win8. MS (and most of the tech bloggers) will call Win 8 a major success!

      MS does not care what you want, people. You will learn to love what they tell you. OR – Move to Linux or Mac?

    3. Minimal said on September 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm
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      As a power user who picky about interfaces I don’t get the hate for the ribbon at all. I minimize it anyway but it’s one of the best things that Microsoft designed. What’s bad about it?

      1. Jim said on September 6, 2011 at 6:49 pm
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        Same problem as all the minimalist interfaces have, you have to dig and dig and dig to find the command you want.

        Martin nailed it though. This won’t matter to me. I’ve been a alternative file manager user since the Amiga. Metro will have a much bigger impact than any ribbon. I think Metro is too big and nebulous for users to get their heads around so they don’t know what to complain about. They’re familiar with the ribbon. Opposition to it tends to be pretty vocal but most users get used to it fairly quickly. Unless they really botch it up, the ribbon won’t be the end of the world.

        I have confidence in MS though. They will likely follow their standard pattern of every other version being lousy. XP was good, Vista lousy, W7 good, so W8 should be junk. I plan on skipping this one. Hopefully they’ll have the kinks worked out in W9.

    4. Matt said on September 6, 2011 at 5:24 pm
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      Metro, big-ass ribbons, and the minimal Aero design… these things don’t fit together very harmoniously. Much of Win8 looks very cobbled together and patchwork-like.

      I’ve been pleased with all the news about the new features the OS will ship with, but from a UI perspective it’s quite a head scratcher so far.

    5. Robert Palmar said on September 6, 2011 at 6:56 pm
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      The biggest problem with the ribbon is Microsoft’s arrogance.
      With their actions first with Office 2007 Microsoft says if
      you think this is not an improvement we want you
      to know Microsoft knows better than you.

      It would not be difficult to have the classic menu
      style be an option to toggle off the ribbon
      but of course that is too much to ask.

      Minimizing the ribbon does not make it disappear. The bar remains.
      And you have to open that cluttered closet to dig for the feature
      you need that you cannot fit on the quick access bar.

      Ramming it down users throats is not listening to users.
      Microsoft’s message to users who dislike the
      ribbon interface is simple — Drop Dead.

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