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Brave Talk: Video Conferencing for the Brave Browser

Remember Brave Together, the video calling feature that Brave added to the Nightly version of its web browser in May 2020? Brave Together has been renamed to Brave Talk and is now available to all Brave users.

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Brave promises that Brave Talk is a privacy-preserving video conferencing solution.

Brave Talk users can enable multiple layers of encryption on calls, so an eavesdropper cannot listen in on users’ calls, and our servers don’t save metadata, so calls, images, and activities are never recorded or shared without user consent.

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The underlying technology that powers Brave Talk has not changed; it is powered by Jitsi, an open source solution that is provided by 8x8.

Brave Talk is integrated in the browser, it does not require a browser extension or external application or installed software. Calls need to be initiated from the Brave browser, but connections to a call can come from other browsers, provided that these support the required technologies.

Brave Talk is available as a free and premium version. Free users get unlimited call times but are limited to one on one calls. The video conferencing solution does support YouTube livestreaming and groupwatch functionality for free users.

What Brave does not mention in the announcement is that free users need to enable Brave Rewards in Brave Browser to make free calls using Talk. Brave Talk does not work without it.

Brave Talk Premium is available for $7 per month. Besides lifting the two-person limit, premium supports call recordings and hosting tools such as entry passcodes or muting of participants. Some of the premium options were available during tests of the free version. Premium is the only option on Android and iOS currently, but Brave plans to launch the free option "in the coming weeks" on these platforms. Desktop users can choose between the free and premium version.

To get started, Brave users may point their web browser to https://talk.brave.com/. The company notes in the announcement that users may also activate the camera icon from Brave's new tab page, but the option was not available during tests. It is possible that it is on a controlled roll out and will land on all devices over time.

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Closing Words

Brave continues its complementary services push that open up new revenue sources for the company. Brave Search and Brave Talk, the two services that the company launched recently, include free and subscription-based options. Brave promises that privacy of its users is preserved. For Brave Search, it stated that results will not be filtered.

Brave users who use rewards may find the new offer useful. They trust Brave and new features that promise to be privacy preserving are likely welcomed by them.

Now You: Will you use Brave Talk?

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Brave Talk brings Video Conferencing to Brave Browser
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Brave, maker of the browser of the same name, added a video conferencing tool to the company's web browser, called Brave Talk.
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  1. Chromium - woolyss said on September 23, 2021 at 8:04 am
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    “What Brave does not mention in the announcement is that free users need to enable Brave Rewards in Brave Browser to make free calls using Talk”
    Aaaand uninstalled Brave. I use a browser to browse the internet, nothing else. Those are getting few and far between these days. I did put up with Brave because most things can be turned off, but this was just garbage. We can see where this is going, AGAIN. First, build a following, then get greedy and soil your product that built the following. Then bitch about users leaving. Here’s an idea: if you need money, GET A REAL JOB.

    1. ddk said on September 23, 2021 at 3:31 pm
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      Chromium from woolyss. com is the only place where I get browsers. No chrome branded stuff here. Fave is ungoogled chromium.

      A couple of pluses for Brave is tor access and torrent dl’s thru browser.

    2. Ironmectin said on September 23, 2021 at 7:46 pm
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      does brave ever do anything on their own, besides building extortion-level advert racketeering patches and shady crypto nonsense for their venture capitalist overloads

      – they added tor but don’t build tor
      – they use other companies blocklists without contributing
      – they use HTTPS-Everywhere’s upgrade rules
      – they use chromium without upstreaming their token minimalist gimmicks (and they added telemetry, for what? they don’t do anything)
      – they hijack existing adverts to threaten creator’s revenue streams .. nice site you have there, shame if something happened to it
      – and now they’re just adding jitsi as a SaaS with the requirement that Brave Rewards be enabled
      – lets not forget they inserted and sent affiliate referrals on some eTLD typed urls – not searches, but typed urls, which no other mainstream browser has ever done

      What a bloated scammy pig of a browser, even the lipstick is wearing thin. Users will need to also get drunk AF to touch this abomination

      1. pig lipstick said on September 24, 2021 at 7:49 am
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        how long before Iron Heart posts a 10,000 word reply .. taking bets now

      2. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 10:16 am
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        @pig lipstick * [Editor: removed]

        Since you know deep down that none of the points of “Ironmectin” hold much water, you also know deep down that my reply in which I debunk it all is inevitable. I won’t disappoint you, rest assured!

      3. pig lipstick said on September 24, 2021 at 8:21 pm
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        > how long before Iron Heart posts a 10,000 word reply

        and we have a winner ..2hrs 15mns

        Iron Heart lives to protect ghacks comments from the evil world. watching 24/7 like an obsessively deranged super hero living in fantasy where being the last reply, and extreme lengths of a reply, means he wins against evil. In this state those infected are deliriously hypocritical where up is down and down is sideways.

        see the first comment at https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/18/mozilla-vpn-boosted-with-multi-hop-blocking-and-custom-dns-features/#comments where Iron Heart screams about Mozilla partnering with and rebranding a VPN service

        For those wanting more insight, notice the consecutive moderation by martin indicating that our superhero feels no remorse name calling, as long as the other person does not fit their alternate reality, in order to justify his world view

        the question was “does brave ever do anything on their own besides…”, I guess the answer is no, because it was not on their own

      4. Iron Heart said on September 25, 2021 at 9:39 am
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        @pig lipstick

        Impressive kitchen psychology for a captain obvious troll with a no less trollish nickname. Is that name calling? No, you fit the definition of “troll” perfectly.

        I let people form their own opinion while reading the hate-filled replies I get in response for posting factual correct rebuttals (has nothing to do with me being a “hero”, either).

        > consecutive moderation by martin

        I have no influence on Martin believing he knows better than I do what is good for my comments. If anything, your own heavy insults which went through without issue indicate that the rules are scarcely and selectively applied here at best. I will start caring once Martin also censors other people in the exact same way.

      5. pig lipstick said on September 25, 2021 at 9:45 am
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        > the rules are scarcely and selectively applied

        iron heart still playing the victim and accusing martin of being biased

      6. Iron Heart said on September 25, 2021 at 4:33 pm
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        @pig lipstick

        Just saying it how it is. Anyone can see it.

      7. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 10:14 am
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        @Ironmectin * [Editor: removed]

        > they added tor but don’t build tor

        I hope you realize that other applications aside from the Tor Browser Bundle are free to use Tor. And since the feature exists to hide the IP address, what would have been the alternative? Brave running their own VPN? Then you, the troll, would have claimed the following:

        1) Whaaaat? VPNs already exist, how dare they? Nothing unique.
        2) I don’t trust their VPN anyway.

        So they rather use the Tor network which nobody has central control of and then you still complain.

        > they use other companies blocklists without contributing

        That’s literally true for any adblocker. Most of uBlock Origin’s lists are not maintained by gorhill, most of AdBlock Plus’s lists are not their own. You could hammer them with the same right saying “Why don’t they maintain their own lists?” Furthermore, Brave doesn’t use any lists that are not explicitly said to be free to use by anyone. If you set up your lists to be free to use by any adblocker, why complain?

        Plus, what you said is just a malicious lie. @FanboyNZ, maintainer of the popular “Fanboy’s lists”, is a Brave employee for example.

        > they use HTTPS-Everywhere’s upgrade rules

        Again, free to use by anyone. Name one good reason why they SHOULD duplicate the effort then. HTTPS Everywhere is the best extension for this purpose.

        > they use chromium without upstreaming their token minimalist gimmicks (and they added telemetry, for what? they don’t do anything)

        Do you think Google would accept patches related to Brave Rewards at upstream? Wow, this is dumb.

        And their (mild) telemetry exists because there are unique Brave features contrary to what you falsely claim.

        > they hijack existing adverts to threaten creator’s revenue streams .. nice site you have there, shame if something happened to it

        Any adblocker you use threatens the revenue of websites.

        > and now they’re just adding jitsi as a SaaS with the requirement that Brave Rewards be enabled

        Wake me up should more than 1% of Brave users use this.

        > lets not forget they inserted and sent affiliate referrals on some eTLD typed urls – not searches, but typed urls, which no other mainstream browser has ever done

        There is no difference between “typed URLs” and URLs generated by searches, both are URLs with zero technical difference between them. Every browser uses referrals for searches, when Brave did use this for the Binance website, you can hardly hammer them for it when you accept the same thing for searches (your browser does it, too). Plus, this is totally unrelated to user privacy.

        Btw, I am glad that they make money via privacy-preserving referrals instead of selling user data but perhaps that is just me.

        > What a bloated scammy pig of a browser, even the lipstick is wearing thin. Users will need to also get drunk AF to touch this abomination

        Wow, such an impartial and fair opinion. Exactly what this thread needed.

    3. ULBoom said on September 23, 2021 at 7:52 pm
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      Yay, woolyss is getting noticed; been using their Chromia since 2016 or so. It’s a great site to just learn things, too, so many good links.

    4. Anonymous said on September 24, 2021 at 2:53 pm
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      What do you care if they develop products that make money? If they maintain my privacy in the browser, I am happy. If they provide other services with similar privacy preserving features that people might be interested in, bully for them. That money they make strengthens the entire enterprise.

  2. finoderi said on September 23, 2021 at 8:40 am
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    Yes, add more shit nobody asked for. It looks like they’re competing with Vivladi now – who will manage to shoehorn more bloated useless trash into the browser.
    The saddest thing is there isn’t any good alternative, although I’m already considering returning to Vivaldi.

    1. Iron Heart said on September 23, 2021 at 9:28 am
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      Yes, I can’t help but agree. The browser shouldn’t perform tasks for which better specialized software exists, too.

      I also don’t hear clamors from the community for video conferencing to be added, this is a decision solely made by the developers it seems, because they think it “adds value”. Yet another thing to turn off (after Brave News).

      1. hdjdnd said on September 23, 2021 at 11:10 am
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        Ugh, so the only effort the Brave devs put into this was to be able to cripple Jitsi, so they could ask (a lot of) money for the otherwise free feature set?

  3. Yash said on September 23, 2021 at 9:39 am
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    Will you use Brave Talk?

    Funny enough I was on Brave websites to download browser again to check this feature, until I decided to read full article first. Since it requires Brave rewards to be enabled, I’m not interested. Although Brave rewards can make someone earn ‘real’ money through the supposedly privacy preserving ads, to me it sounds all goofy, and so not going to try it.

    1. Iron Heart said on September 23, 2021 at 10:27 am
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      @Yash

      > supposedly privacy preserving ads

      Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. How about some facts?

      https://brave.com/intro-to-brave-ads/

      It’s also 100% opt-in, and the Pocket Stories feature of your beloved Deplatformingfox operates in the exact same way (which is not problematic).

      1. Yash said on September 23, 2021 at 11:42 am
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        Don’t know whether to feel pity at your naiveness or laugh, so let’s do both – Pocket Stories FYI doesn’t include BAT shit, and doesn’t include anything about making money, so very bright of you to compare these two things. This is what I wrote this about Brave reward – “Although Brave rewards can make someone earn ‘real’ money through the supposedly privacy preserving ads, to me it sounds all goofy, and so not going to try it.” Does this real money thing applies to Pocket Stories? Answer is no, then why did you compared these two things?

        Before writing another nonsense comment read this(written by another user) –

        ** Please do yourself and others a favor, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, please don’t bother to post. It saves us and yourself valuable time. **

      2. Iron Heart said on September 23, 2021 at 12:49 pm
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        @Yash

        > Don’t know whether to feel pity at your naiveness or laugh

        Do you think I care what the little bird in your head is doing just now? Because I don’t.

        > Pocket Stories FYI doesn’t include BAT shit, and doesn’t include anything about making money

        Dude, Pocket Stories are generated the exact same way like Brave’s ads. A local algorithm analyzes your browsing and is then generating “relevant” suggestions, in Firefox’s case woke news articles, in Brave’s case ads. That users get a share of the revenue in Brave’s case while Firefox just uses to show you woke news is inconsequential to my argument, I was just referring to the bare metal algorithm.

        > and doesn’t include anything about making money

        Firefox includes “Firefox Suggest” which is essentially click tracking, and yes, it is there to make money, but this has nothing to do with Pocket Stories. Just mentioning it because claiming that Firefox has no components aimed at generating money is a retarded lie.

        https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/09/how-to-disable-firefox-suggest/

        > Please do yourself and others a favor, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, please don’t bother to post. It saves us and yourself valuable time.

        If your FUD BS is allowed to stand, then my posts have double the right to remain. Deal with it.

      3. Yash said on September 23, 2021 at 6:03 pm
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        Iron Heart shitloading an article –

        “Dude, Pocket Stories are generated the exact same way like Brave’s ads. A local algorithm analyzes your browsing and is then generating “relevant” suggestions, in Firefox’s case woke news articles, in Brave’s case ads. That users get a share of the revenue in Brave’s case while Firefox just uses to show you woke news is inconsequential to my argument, I was just referring to the bare metal algorithm.”
        Shoutout to Irony Heart for completely missing the point. Legend says only Souness misses a point completely more times when talking about Pogba than Irony Heart does when it includes Mozilla.

        “Firefox includes “Firefox Suggest” which is essentially click tracking, and yes, it is there to make money, but this has nothing to do with Pocket Stories. Just mentioning it because claiming that Firefox has no components aimed at generating money is a retarded lie.

        https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/09/how-to-disable-firefox-suggest/
        And does Firefox suggest includes BAT shit like Brave rewards? Answer is clear no.Then why are you including it?
        “but this has nothing to do with Pocket Stories”
        That’s it, it has nothing to do with Pocket stories, which in turn has nothing to do with BAT shit involved in Brave rewards, so please STFU. Don’t embarass yourself further.

        “If your FUD BS is allowed to stand, then my posts have double the right to remain. Deal with it.”
        Don’t know what is BS, me saying not using Brave Talk because of Brave rewards or Irony Heart who is including everything about Pocket Stories to Firefox Suggest which clearly doesn’t have anything to do with making BAT shit, and certainly not with Brave Talk. Good job there. I hope the little bird in your head is at rest with writing another useless comment.

        Again this is necessary –
        ** Please do yourself and others a favor, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, please don’t bother to post. It saves us and yourself valuable time. **

      4. ChromeFan said on September 23, 2021 at 6:33 pm
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        > “only Souness misses a point completely more times when talking about Pogba”

        That got a laugh from me.

      5. Yash said on September 23, 2021 at 6:48 pm
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        Its known to everytime for some time that Pogba is reason why Brave browser includes Brave rewards. The guy is a disgrace to Football – Souness 2021

      6. ChromeFan said on September 24, 2021 at 3:18 pm
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        @Yash

        He can be talking about something (which is not related to Pogba) and then somehow he fits him into the conversation. It is funny, but also a bit sad because he seems obsessed about him. His ramblings are great to watch though.

        Maybe a Graeme Souness exists on this very site? Who knows.

        Anyways I am venturing off-topic and derailing this thread.

      7. Yash said on September 24, 2021 at 3:49 pm
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        @ChromeFan
        Graeme Souness on this site? I know where you’re pointing but it would be a disservice to compare a Liverpool legend to a troll on this site. Maybe Mario Balotelli – Why always me!

        @Not Irony Heart
        Just Iron Heart okay, first as I’ve said someone here actually suggested a very good idea, but then troll needs to be stopped.

        So let’s begin –

        “You are spreading fake news and then act as if you didn’t. Cool.”

        “I was pointing out that Firefox uses a local algorithm to pick news articles for you, same like Brave uses an algorithm to pick fitting ads from a list of ads. In both cases this is done locally with no data leaving your PC. Just because Firefox picks news articles and Brave picks ads, does not mean that their algorithms are fundamentally different as far as the basic idea is concerned. If you don’t see a connection between the two, along with the hypocrisy of slamming one but not the other, then I can’t help you.

        You also act as if Firefox has no features aimed at monetization which is factually incorrect, although they operate outside of the Pocket Stories algorithm discussed above.”

        I would love to know what fake news I shared on this thread and then acting like I didn’t?
        About this nonsense “You act……above” – Iron Heart the first comment on this thread was about Brave Talk and necessity of Brave rewards for using it. It was not about Firefox, where does Mozilla gets its funding, yet you foolishly compared Pocket Stories to Brave rewards. Second Firefox gets money from search engine deals, not through Pocket Stories.

        As Emil has already asked, both Pocket and Brave rewards are open-source, why don’t you link to the algorithms in question?
        It would be nice if you can back up your first comment in this thread which is how Pocket Stories and Brave rewards were written in the same sentence by you?
        Every comment since then has been nonsense, so don’t deflect the main point, face it and explain your point properly for once.

        Plus the link you shared about Brave rewards includes many bits including behavioral targeting. Of course it would be nice to know if Pocket Stories does the same, isn’t it?

      8. Tom Mc said on September 24, 2021 at 1:42 am
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        @ Yash ( and any other interested commenters )

        If you are using Ublock origin add on in your browser.

        1.
        Click on the Ubo icon.
        2.
        Open “My filters”.
        3.
        Add the following filter:

        ghacks.net##.comment-item:has-text(Iron Heart said)

        4.
        click on the “Update Now” button.

        You will find that ALL the bluesh*t posts from Iron Heart are no longer visible. Therefore you will no longer have to read and reply.to him/her

        NB for Iron Heart. Don’t bother posting an insulting, long winded, reply (eg “Yashy Washy”).
        I’ve re-enabled the above filter in “My Filters”.

        Have a nice day :)))))

      9. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 2:23 am
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        @Yashy-Washy

        Please follow @Tom Mc’s advice. Like, PLEASE do just that. If you can no longer see my posts, chances are that I will no longer receive your dumb replies. This will save me lots of time and energy.

        USE. THIS. FILTER. NOW.

        Waste no time, do not hesitate. I won’t miss you. Bye.

      10. matthiew said on September 24, 2021 at 5:52 am
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        Looks like Yash has already implemented Tom Mc’s Ublock filter suggestion. Of course, Iron Heart hasn’t figured out that they could also implement it to block Yash ?

      11. matthiew said on September 24, 2021 at 5:53 am
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        Oh, emoji don’t work here? Now my previous comment looks like a question :(

      12. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 9:58 am
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        @matthiew

        > Looks like Yash has already implemented Tom Mc’s Ublock filter suggestion.

        And that’s fantastic as far as I’m concerned! I am not against this guy ceasing to reply to me at all, so I support this decision 100%.

        > Of course, Iron Heart hasn’t figured out that they could also implement it to block Yash ?

        Who says that I won’t?

      13. Reggie said on September 24, 2021 at 3:49 am
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        @Tom Mc – Thank you.

      14. Yash said on September 24, 2021 at 11:23 am
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        Tom Mc – thank you for the suggestion. Yes there is a way to block a troll named Iron Heart completely, but then troll needs to be stopped. I can say this confidently – I’m not losing my sleep over a troll, and tbh there is nothing easier in the world than dealing with a troll who knows nothing.
        Again thank you for filter suggestion, some folks are using it already and many more will appreciate it for sure.

      15. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 2:41 pm
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        @Yash

        If having an actual argument makes me a troll, then what are you? You are spreading fake news and then act as if you didn’t. Cool.

        As I said, I don’t mind you or other fake news spreading trolls blocking me.

      16. Iron Heart said on September 24, 2021 at 3:12 pm
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        @Yash

        Yeah, yeah… It’s OK. Nothing has anything to do with anything, as always.

        I was pointing out that Firefox uses a local algorithm to pick news articles for you, same like Brave uses an algorithm to pick fitting ads from a list of ads. In both cases this is done locally with no data leaving your PC. Just because Firefox picks news articles and Brave picks ads, does not mean that their algorithms are fundamentally different as far as the basic idea is concerned. If you don’t see a connection between the two, along with the hypocrisy of slamming one but not the other, then I can’t help you.

        You also act as if Firefox has no features aimed at monetization which is factually incorrect, although they operate outside of the Pocket Stories algorithm discussed above.

        What I said here is 100% factual and the truth, and I don’t care if I get slammed by a horde of biased, tribalistic, and trollish commenters over it. None of you have successfully argued against me here outside of deflection and ad hominem smearings, because there is nothing to argue for you. If you slam one browser but not the other when both apply the same tech, you are biased and hypocritical. Full stop.

        Last but not least, would you please stop mutilating my nickname? This is extremely childish and is not a substitute for an argument either. If you just applied the filter rule the other I-have-no-argument-to-make-here-commenter posted, it would make things easier on all of us. Either try to prove me wrong (good luck, I seem to know better what goes on in your browser than you yourself do) or stop being a hypocrite. The choice is yours.

      17. Emil Brausewetter said on September 23, 2021 at 6:48 pm
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        Quote:
        “Dude, Pocket Stories are generated the exact same way like Brave’s ads. A local algorithm analyzes your browsing and is then generating “relevant” suggestions, in Firefox’s case woke news articles, in Brave’s case ads. […] I was just referring to the bare metal algorithm.

        It looks like you had the opportunities to compare both “bare metal algorithms” with each other. Since Brave as well as Pocket are open source:
        https://github.com/brave
        https://github.com/Pocket
        I kindly ask to link to the algorithms in question. On top of that, it would be very helpful to explain the respective correspondences in more detail to the interested reader; … in order to enable a verification of your racy assertion – “Pocket Stories are generated the exact same way like Brave’s ads” – in this way.

        Sincerly

  4. Lemegeton said on September 23, 2021 at 10:16 am
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    > Calls need to be initiated from the Brave browser, but connections to a call can come from other browsers, provided that these support the required technologies.
    > What Brave does not mention in the announcement is that free users need to enable Brave Rewards in Brave Browser to make free calls using Talk. Brave Talk does not work without it.

    Both restrictions are purely marketing decisions and are a prime example of the use of so-called Dark Patterns by companies:
    The service page simply loads a iframe with https://8×8.vc/ (it’s jitsi) with modified styles. Anyone can simply open said page from ANY supported (by jitsi) browser and initiate a call. You don’t have to have Brave browser at all, and certainly the service works quite well without the need for Brave Rewards.

    In addition, checking that you have exactly the Brave browser on the talk.brave.com domain (to create a call) is also artificial:
    If there is no “brave” object in the navigator (it simply checks if the “brave” object exists), it shows a Download Brave button. If you add this object through the developer’s panel (devtools) in any Chrome-based browser, then the ability to initiate a call “miraculously” appears.

  5. Dumbledalf said on September 23, 2021 at 10:21 am
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    I won’t use that function as I simply don’t need it. So far I’m OK with Brave, because unlike Vivaldi, the tab behavior is standard like all other browsers.

  6. anona said on September 23, 2021 at 11:40 am
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    Seems a bit pointless to me. There are several free, encrypted, and platform-agnostic video call apps out there.

    (For example:
    https://eylenburg.github.io/im_comparison.htm
    https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html )

    So why would people suddenly start using Brave for video calls?

    It’s an obvious cash grab. Sad!

  7. NoOne said on September 23, 2021 at 12:31 pm
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    This is ridiculous bloatware crap to ad on any browser…. no one would use it just because there are plenty alternative Apps that do a better job.

    1. Iron Heart said on September 23, 2021 at 12:40 pm
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      @NoOne

      Yes, exactly. That was my point as well. Leave it to better specialized software, in a browser this is just bloat.

  8. Coward said on September 23, 2021 at 2:04 pm
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    What’s next? Use photoshop in your browser? BraveShop! You just need a Brave account! ..greed is a very ugly thing. Sure, we all have bills to pay and we all gotta eat. Some more than others..

    I’m going to uninstall Brave from all my family and friends computers now.

    What a damn joke that “browser” became.. Why don’t you develop a BRAVE OPERATING SYSTEM while you’re at it? Or something even remotely useful.

  9. ChromeFan said on September 23, 2021 at 4:35 pm
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    Will I use it? Nope.

    Google Duo exists, and offers everything ‘Brave Talk’ offers. I do find it funny that Brave continues to add more bloat to their already bloated browser.

    As with everything Brave does, this is again a rebrand of an existing product. They have done this with their browser (Chrome rebrand), and their VPN (Guardian rebrand). You didn’t know they had one? (lol).

    Brave and Mozilla sure do like to rebrand things.

  10. ULBoom said on September 23, 2021 at 8:01 pm
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    Some Brave Talk there!

    They’re spreading themselves thin(ner.) Their Search Thing seems to be the same as it was when it was released, still barely works where I am.

    Focus, people!!!

  11. Aarron11 said on September 24, 2021 at 1:28 pm
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    Good article. I chose Utopia for myself about a year ago, my anonymity and security come first. At first I was blunt, but now I really like it.

  12. bob said on September 24, 2021 at 5:31 pm
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    tf is wrong with brave beta downloads lately,,,been using auto update fine for months, now i get egads download failed, win7x64 , manual,auto dowloading fails , uninstalled,ended up with brave normy…simplewall set to allow brave,,as per usual! sort it out brave!

    1. reality said on September 24, 2021 at 11:03 pm
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      > tf is wrong with brave

      it’s a chrome pig in lipstick, that’s what tf is wrong

      1. Iron Heart said on September 25, 2021 at 9:25 am
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        @reality (far from it)

        Yet another post that fails to account for all the features they have over Chromium and Chrome.

        “Look, mom, I’ve posted it again!” – you, probably.

  13. Anonymous said on September 24, 2021 at 7:15 pm
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    “Brave promises that Brave Talk is a privacy-preserving video conferencing solution.”

    Brave’s definition of “privacy-preserving” usually only preserves their suveillance capitalism model profits.

    “What Brave does not mention in the announcement is that free users need to enable Brave Rewards in Brave Browser to make free calls using Talk. Brave Talk does not work without it.”

    Assholes. Like having to install Brave to use it would not be bad enough.

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