Here is what is new and changed in Firefox 58.0.2
Mozilla plans to release Firefox 58.0.2 to the stable channel in the next 24-hour period. The new version of the browser fixes two crash issues, a signature issue on Mac OS X devices, and issues on Microsoft's Hotmail and Outlook web mail service.
The new version of Firefox updates the release channel of the web browser. It is the second minor update following the release of Firefox 58.0 which was released on January 22, 2018.
Firefox 58.0.1 patched a critical security issue in version 58.0 and a blank page load issue on Windows for certain security configurations.
Firefox users can run a manual check for updates in the browser with a click on Menu > Help > About Firefox. Firefox should pick up the release (as soon as it is released officially), and download and install the update automatically on the system.
Update: The official release notes are up!
Firefox 58.0.2
Firefox 58.0.2 is another minor release for the release channel. It fixes two crash issues in the browser:
- Blocklisted graphics drivers related to off main thread painting crashes
- Tab crash during printing
Firefox users who ran into these issues may want to update the browser asap to resolve the issues.
The new stable version of Firefox addresses two additional issues. The first addresses an issue on Mac OS X systems where updates to the browser may lead to signature issues sometimes.
The second fixes "clicking links and scrolling emails" on Microsoft's Hotmail and Outlook web mail services.
It is not uncommon to release minor updates after major browser updates. Two common purposes of minor updates are to fix security issues and stability issues in the browser.
We will update the article when the official release notes are published by Mozilla. It is not uncommon that they list other changes that preliminary release notes don't cover.
The next major Firefox stable release is expected on March 13, 2018 according to the current Firefox release schedule.
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Who loves the rest of Firefox once powerful UI customization.. get ready to say slow bye bye, because official Mozilla dev says it is going away in the future.
Nothing more needed to be said to that Mozilla Open Source abusers. Total brainless morons!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7tu98a/wontfix_the_future_of_userchromecontent/
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1431962#c3
Kris Maglione=
“The functionality of userChrome.css will not be supported, for the same reasons that we removed support for legacy themes.
Support will probably be completely removed from Firefox in the future, yes, but there are no immediate plans to do so.â€
But who knows.. Mozilla loves perhaps the kinky stuff :P Anyway, seen from their state of affair they are just Google lapdogs today.
Even worse, money and fame fixated number zealots!
https://www.cnet.com/news/layoffs-mozilla-taiwan-changes-firefox-work-in-asia/
“We value our employees, so our priority is managing this transition in a way that gives them the respect and consideration they deserve.”
Earlier that year, but VERY relevant… Just saying…
Mozilla is highly interested in corporate identity/corporate design policies. Chrome has it and it is an essential part of Chrome’s success, so they want it too.
Think about it: The user could make Firefox ugly and others looking at it could decide therefor not to install that ugly browser. Move a bar to the wrong place or an icon to the wrong spot and to top it, terrible CSS customization which makes the browser look ugly.
That reputation-loss would truly hard to bear for Mozilla, so they had to act – at least seen from their Google Chrome competitor fixation’s point of view :D
Also, do not forget Chrome has no UI customization, so Mozilla wants to fully get rid of it too, otherwise Chrome users will not switch over, as they accept no bloat inside their browser.
Quite simple logic – Especially if one can’t get rid of that unhealthy fixation that one have to compete with Chrome no matter what ;)
Mozilla should grow up finally and let Chrome be Chrome. Like they did in the past.
> TylerDMozilla Mozilla Employee
“There are no plans that I know of to get rid of userchrome. I know we want to better understand how people are using it, but I haven’t heard plans to kill it yet.”
Don’t speculate on the distant future. Things may or may not happen in one form or in another form, FUD is useless. What we know right now is that they want to know what userChrome.css features are used by people so they can surface these UI changes to WebExtensions as new APIs. This is something we definitely want.
We also know that this project hasn’t even started yet.
“Don’t speculate on the distant future.”
Are you saying that Kris Maglione’s comment in the bug report should be ignored? It sounded pretty definitive, not like speculation.
It actually says the exact same thing as Tyler D’s comment, which is also a Mozilla employee, which is that there is no plan to remove it. Kris Maglione just states his belief that it’s “probably” going away “in the future”. Tyler D doesn’t bother stating what he thinks is gonna happen.
The thing is that nobody knows what will happen to Firefox’s UI code in the distant future. It could end up being rewritten in Rust, in which case obviously userChrome.css, which relies on CSS being there in the first place, would become irrelevant.
It makes no sense to speculate about what a software will be in 3 years.
“It makes no sense to speculate about what a software will be in 3 years.”
If people are trying to decide how much effort to put into making FF work the way they want, then it makes a great deal of sense to try to anticipate if that effort is pointless or not.
Using Vivaldi after leaving Firefox because I got tired of constantly having to fix and fumble with my extensions at each update. I was using a pretty old version anyway (for stuff like enhanced location bar) but now that Firefox Quantum killed extensions, I jumped ship to Vivaldi, because at least there I know there are way more developers working on their “extensions”. And Vivaldi is clearly made by people who love customization, which is contrary to Mozilla, who hates it with a passion.
@Pauls Dad…
What a load of waffling rubbish.
Vivaldi is nothing more than another chromium fork with a fancier going out jacket on.Sure vivaldi may look good at the party but when you strip it off its nothing but a bare naked chromium.The majority of vivaldis “extensions” are in fact chrome extensions so to praise vivaldi for its wonderful add on system is just total nonsense.
At least mozilla actually put some coding work in and created a new rendering engine and has far more extensions than vivaldi will ever have.
Your comment is just nonsense.
My main browser : Firefox x64 stable
What is your main browser?
safari
I’ve tried using Firefox Quantum for a while and quiet liked it but found it to be a bit slower than Chrome and slightly less stable. For instance, Ublock Origin crashed couple of days ago. Back to Chrome now.
Waterfox for the question of add-ons (and I am satisfied with it).
I keep the portable version of Firefox to follow the evolutions.
My main browser is Chrome beta. Backup browser Firefox ESR Portable.
“What is your main browser?â€
Vivaldi.
It’s the best of what’s left among web browsers for my needs.
I still have the hope that someday someone will make a fork of Quantum with a fully customizable UI without having to bother with CSS.
“What is your main browser?” Pale Moon, a browser which does not try to catch your attention 399 days a year.
Why do I find cookies on my pc despite having them blocked in FF ? Happens every time after checking for add on updates. Here they are:
aus5.mozilla.org
secure.informaction.com
shavar.services.mozilla.com
Informaction should be NoScript pinging a NoScript-owned distant server to resolve your IP in order to protect it your router from e.g. like DNS rebinding attacks.
aus5 is AutoUpdate service, so it should be Firefox checking for updates.
Shavar is related to Safebrowsing, e.g. phishing protection. Maybe Tracking Protection too, not sure.
You can disable all of this is you want. You don’t need to though, just make sure NoScript’s feature is indeed the one I said.
Thank you, guys.
I didn’t notice this only happens after checking add-on updates. NoScript doesn’t need to connect to informaction for that, it could be the option that displays release notes on each update, which is turned on by default. I would disable it.
The other two are normal.
it could be because of the Activity Stream. i set browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.enabled to False and that fixed that problem for me.
My main browser’s Chrome because i don’t have any problem with it.
Throughout its lifespan, FireFox 57 crashed once. FireFox 58, today alone, crashed twice. FireFox x64 on Windows 7, zero plugins, two extensions (uBlockOrigin and uMatrix), about 60 tabs (they all went to hell after crashing). I.. I don’t know what to say. The last time Fx crashed was around version 3.5 era, and it was due to Flash.
Let’s hope this fixes something (I really don’t expect miracles).
Who needs quality, let’s prioritize Pocket malware integration, right? Right?? ffs
Very easy solution:
1. Right click the one of the tabs
2. Click ‘Bookmark All Tabs’
3. Click ‘Add Bookmarks’
This is good unless you need to keep your spot on a page or session data. Or is there something built-in that could handle this?
Firefox Quantum eats memory compared to pre-Quantum.
It’s unfortunate, but it’s true. When you’re surfing with 60 tabs, Firefox probably crashed due to the memory load.
I’ve started using Firefox 58 and am trying to curb my tab limit to prevent memory from going out-of-control. Never had this problem with Firefox 56.
open even more tabs! really it helps.
at a certain point FF slows down if it uses too much mem, but when the overflow point is reached, it falls back too much less mem and stays there.
Strange behaviour i’ve noticed in FF56.
@Ray
Zbraniecki’s note (at the end of comment marked as EDIT) contain information about bug fixed also for extensive memory usage:
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7knnn4/firefox_quantum_is_eating_your_cpu_help_us_debug/
You may also to file a bug.
I keep wondering about people with 60 tabs open. It is utterly pointless.
1) check daily for updates -> open certain bookmark folder -> open all bookmarks in tabs -> check them / close them
no need for 60 tabs open permanently
2) bitcoin / stock prices? no problem if tab closes accidentally
3) pdf / IRC chat clients? outside the browser, much safer+faster and allow file / chat history
4) any other friggin use case / 4chan (lol) -> userscripts that save history
no problem if the tabs close
I have to think of people with 100+ tabs like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Compulsive_hoarding_Apartment.jpg
Not saying you are, 60 tabs is pretty heavy already, but I’ve seen worse.
Do such people ever clear their history? I like a fresh clean session, despite me often having FF open for 4 hours or more, but why insist on being logged in forever on all sites + never close tabs, smh. Cookie Auto Delete feels best
It’s not your place to dictate other people’s workflow. It certainly isn’t Mozilla’s. It’s their place to FACILITATE their workflow.
That said, multiple tabs open are a bad vice to have, but some people have it and that’s how they like working. Using tabs as bookmarks can be easier than using bookmarks as bookmarks. If if you’re not on a craptop and use a proper computer, there’s little reason not to do it.
For years, I’ve wondered the same thing — but I know people who routinely keep more than that open at a time.
You’re very clearly not a developer or someone who sees multiple angles.
@Jay
I’m not a web developer, but I know a bunch of them. Most of the one I know don’t keep a huge number of tabs open at once.
@Jay:
Yes you are right, I’m no “web” developer, since the salaries are not attractive. But I am a developer.
Or you’re just terrible at negotiating and communicating with people in general. That superiority complex you’ve been waving around everywhere backs that up.
Keep doing you though, Internet warrior. Some day, someone will listen to your genius in the real world and we’ll all be better for it.
Or you’re just terrible at negotiating and communicating with people in general. That superiority complex you’ve been waving around everywhere backs that up.
Keep doing you though, Internet warrior. Some day, someone will listen to your genius in the real world and we’ll all be better for it.
Don’t worry, I don’t have any crash. Who needs a sense of discernment, let’s prioritize generalizing our own personal situation to the whole world in a disdainful way, right? Right?? ffs
My main browser is Pale Moon. My backup browser, or second choice, is Opera
“What is your main browser?”
Waterfox.
But I didn’t start there, and I may not remain there. I started by using FF 57 for a while, but decided that it wasn’t for me and switched to Waterfox instead. I continue to evaluate Quantum, though. It remains my hope that it will eventually meet my needs and I’ll be able to switch back.
If you can list your needs very precisely, e.g. “I want to be able to duplicate tabs”, maybe people can help beyond what you found for yourself. I’ve be able to meet needs in unexpected ways so why not.
Thanks, but my needs are being met very well by Waterfox — I lack nothing with that. I’m looking for the day when I can return to Firefox mostly for sentimental reasons.
This day can come faster if what prevents your sentimentality from being left unchecked is chopped down by other people’s experience. Other people with the same concern can then find this resource later on, that’s what internet is good at. But as you wish.
I honestly don’t know why people are so interested in the details of what keeps me from embracing Quantum, but since they are, here’s a summary. First, I have a rather strong dislike for the UI. I don’t like that it’s become so bloated with features that I don’t want and consider risky (Pocket, etc.). Various actions and stated intention for the browser by Mozilla have weakened my trust in it. There’s more, but you get the idea.
Add in the fact that Quantum brings me no real benefit over older FF versions.
I do know how to resolve the technical issues that I have — that’s why I don’t really need any assistance there. But here’s the thing — in order to make Quantum approximate what I want from a browser, I have to do more fiddly business (with CSS and about:config settings) than the end result is worth. And even then, I’m still sacrificing something — I can make it acceptable, but not great. And, once I do that, then I have to babysit it from then on to make sure that updates don’t undo what I’ve done.
In the end, it’s easier and better to use a different browser that doesn’t need so much tweaking and watching.
My hope is that in time, Quantum may mature to the point where I find it the best solution, but that time is not now. But, based on what Mozilla and various FF devs have said, the sorts of changes that would make FF a good fit for me are not the sorts of changes they’re interested in making anyway, so I doubt that my hope will ever really be fulfilled.
In the end, the “problem” is that Mozilla is aiming at a particular market segment (namely, people who love how Chrome works) and I am not in that segment. I don’t fault them for this at all, by the way. It’s pretty much how business works — you choose your market segment and go for it.
> I honestly don’t know why people are so interested in the details of what keeps me from embracing Quantum
Because you went out of your way multiple times to state that you had sentimental ties to Firefox and wanted to go back to using it if you could fit *some needs*.
[Cutting out politics.]
Indeed I have. But I’ve not asked for assistance or advice toward that end, and have also stated that Waterfox amply meets my needs, so I’m merely expressing sentimentality, not need.