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Firefox will soon disallow extensions in private mode by default

Mozilla plans to introduce a change in upcoming versions of the Firefox web browser that blocks extensions from running in private browsing mode by default.

Firefox makes no distinction between regular and private browsing mode in regards to browser extensions currently.

Opera browser, another Chromium-based browser, disallows extensions as well but supports options to allow them in the mode explicitly. The same functionality is provided by Microsoft Edge.

Another core difference between Firefox and Chrome in private windows is that Chrome users cannot restore closed tabs in that mode.

extensions in private windows

Mozilla plans to implement changes that follows Opera Software's and Microsoft's implementation: extensions are disallowed to run in private browsing mode by default but users get options to turn them on explicitly in that mode.

The feature is hidden behind a preference currently and only available in Firefox Nightly builds. It is not clear yet when it will land in Firefox Stable.

private browsing

Here is what needs to be done:

  • Load about:config in the browser's address bar.
  • Confirm that you will be careful if the warning prompt is displayed.
  • Search for private.
  • Set extensions.allowPrivateBrowsingByDefault to false to disallow extensions in private browsing mode by default. Set it to true to allow all extensions to run in private browsing mode.
  • The preference extensions.PrivateBrowsing.notification defines whether a prompt is displayed to the user on first run. The prompt informs the user that extensions are disabled by default in private browsing mode.

It is unclear what extensions.OpenInPrivateWindow.firstRun and extensions.OpenInPrivateWindow.reusePrivateWindow do; if you have information feel free to share it in the comment section below.

Once you have set extensions.allowPrivateBrowsingByDefault to false, you will get a notification the first time you open a new private browsing window in the Firefox web browser.

Firefox will inform you about the blocking of extensions on about:addons as well and that you may allow extensions to run in private browsing mode.

extensions not allowed private browsing

Just select one of the enabled extensions, and there the "Run in Private Windows" option allow; this enables the extension in private windows in the Firefox web browser.

Please note that this does not work the other way around. You cannot allow extensions to run in private windows by default and use the "run in private windows" option to disallow select extensions.

run in private windows

It is unclear if the preferences remain in Firefox Stable or if extensions will be disallowed in private browsing mode by default.

You can follow progress on Bugzilla.

Closing Words

Mozilla's implementation is the most user-friendly implementation as it provides Firefox users with options to run select extensions in private windows.

I have to admit that I never fully understood why extensions need to be disabled in private browsing mode. While doing so may block untrustworthy extension developers from recording user data, it at the same time disables content blockers in that mode which may lead to other forms of tracking that users cannot do anything against then.

Now You: Extensions in private browsing mode: yay or nay?

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  1. Pierre said on February 1, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    Hello
    That’s not true : in Chrome, extensions are disabled by default in private mode, that’s right, but you can enable them manually (verify)

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on February 1, 2019 at 1:24 pm

      Hi Pierre, you are right. Thanks!

  2. Glenn said on February 1, 2019 at 1:41 pm

    Google Chrome does, in fact, allow you to enable extensions in incognito mode (default is disabled).

  3. Anonymous said on February 1, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    Unsurprisingly Mozilla is again following Google in their anti-user decisions. Disabling essential extensions that block trackers doesn’t make users more private, but it’s once again the excuse they’re giving. This is another blow against ad-blockers from the vassal of the advertisement giant. It seems now even clearer that they integrated a content blocker in the browser to slowly push out real ad-blockers that they can’t control themselves.

    Anyway it was never a good idea to use the Firefox private browsing mode. It gives a false sense of privacy by hiding tracking cookies from the view of the user in the about:preferences#privacy cookie list window but they’re actually still here (can be seen in the storage inspector of the developer tools) and allow session tracking.

    1. seeprime said on February 1, 2019 at 2:54 pm

      If anyone wants to use a working Firefox private mode they need to check out Tor browser, based on Fiirefox.

    2. Tom said on February 1, 2019 at 3:42 pm

      @Anonymous: Yeah, implementing privacy improvements is “following Google in their anti-user decisions”. Nice try to troll.

    3. Tom Hawack said on February 1, 2019 at 3:45 pm

      @Anonumous, I’d write +1 if it weren’t so sadly a Facebook expression. I entirely agree.
      Don’t use Private Mode, but do use First Party Isolate (privacy.firstparty.isolate = true).

      What kind of information is exposed during a Firefox private browsing session?
      https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/113265/what-kind-of-information-is-exposed-during-a-firefox-private-browsing-session

      Private Mode, Incognito and so on are pure rubbish, a gigantic joke.

      1. John Fenderson said on February 1, 2019 at 8:02 pm

        @Tom Hawack: “Private Mode, Incognito and so on are pure rubbish, a gigantic joke.”

        I disagree. I think the problem with these modes is that they’re named wrong. They weren’t designed to enhance privacy in dealing with the web, they were designed to enhance privacy with regards to other people who use the same machine as you. And they work well for that.

        The names imply a larger scope (although the documentation makes the true scope clear).

      2. Tom Hawack said on February 2, 2019 at 10:32 am

        @John Fenderson, “I think the problem with these modes is that they’re named wrong.”

        Indeed the joke if there is any is all about the terminology which is not adequate and may lead to a wrong perception of what “privacy”, “incognito” really is and is not in theses processes.

        I’m usually more level-headed but I still happen to express conclusions without sufficiently explaining them.

    4. Zemtex said on February 1, 2019 at 3:53 pm

      Oh, for the love of God, people. So much hate for something that makes sense for once. NORMAL, NON-TECH SAVVY users will find this beneficial, and those among us who can tweak, will still be able to.

      Nobody gives a shit if Firefox’s private browsing mode isn’t a good idea or gives a false sense of privacy. Most tracking is blocked in Private Browsing by default, and the thing that NORMAL people care about, such as history is erased.

      Yes, now you will go on about Firefox is for power users – it is not. It is for both the average user and the power user – it is about a choice. While shifting to the new add-on framework didn’t make sense to me, not everything Mozilla does is stupid, so do think a bit before you start firing off at them, yeah?

      1. John Fenderson said on February 4, 2019 at 5:35 pm

        @Zemtex: “Yes, now you will go on about Firefox is for power users”

        I won’t, because it’s not.

    5. 99 said on February 1, 2019 at 9:40 pm

      @Anonymous said on February 1, 2019 at 2:11 pm

      Quote:

      “It gives a false sense of privacy by hiding tracking cookies from the view of the user in the about:preferences#privacy cookie list window but they’re actually still here (can be seen in the storage inspector of the developer tools) and allow session tracking.”

      So what?

      Cookies set in private windows are held temporarily in memory, separate from regular window cookies – no need to show them in the about:preferences#privacy cookie list!
      And this Cookies are discarded at the end of your private session (after the last private window is closed).

      You don’t even understand the basics of Private Browsing.

      1. Anonymous said on February 4, 2019 at 9:31 pm

        > Cookies set in private windows are held temporarily in memory, separate from regular window cookies – no need to show them in the about:preferences#privacy cookie list!

        Cookies held in memory can be accessed by sites just as well as long as they exist, so there’s need to show them to the user too. A worse problem is that I’m not even sure cookies can be controlled at all by privacy extensions in private browsing mode.

        > And this Cookies are discarded at the end of your private session (after the last private window is closed).

        I’m aware, this is why I said that they allow “session” tracking.

        To be more complete, my advice is this one : always use normal browsing, not private browsing, but configure the browser to clear all history at browser exit. You’ll get much more privacy, your extensions won’t be broken by the stupid (evil if you believe me) rule that some storage can’t be accessed by them if it can be accessed by websites, you’ll be able to control your storage manually or automatically with extensions, and now your security and privacy extensions won’t be disabled by default.

    6. Hy said on February 1, 2019 at 10:15 pm

      “Now You: Extensions in private browsing mode: yay or nay?”

      Of course extensions should still be used in private browsing mode, and this FF change is backwards: the default should be set to “enabled,” with an option to disable them if so desired.

      Anonymous said “Anyway it was never a good idea to use the Firefox private browsing mode.”

      Before October 2015 I had never used private browsing; since then I’ve set Firefox to always use private browsing, after reading this here on ghacks about HSTS supercookie tracking: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/16/how-to-prevent-hsts-tracking-in-firefox/

      In short, Martin wrote that the best option to prevent HSTS supercookie tracking was to always use private browsing mode.

      (I also bought CCleaner premium at that time and set it to automatically clean upon browser close, and I edited my SiteSecurityServiceState.txt file and have kept an eye on it ever since.)

      I think I also may have read somewhere that private browsing stymies some other form(s) of tracking as well, but I can’t remember what specifically.

      1. Anonymous said on February 4, 2019 at 9:49 pm

        “In short, Martin wrote that the best option to prevent HSTS supercookie tracking was to always use private browsing mode.”

        In my opinion the best way to prevent firefox from storing locally a list of visited sites through HSTS is to set the file as read-only, I’ve done this for a long time with no problem, and I didn’t have to suffer from the problems of the private browsing mode (HSTS will still allow session tracking in both modes, no way to prevent this to my knowledge). I’ve never met a security mechanism whose benefits justified such a long term local storage of browsing history, and the benefits of HSTS are a good example of worthless ones (except the preloaded HSTS list which doesn’t have any privacy cost). It’s almost as if they were having brainstormings about finding excuses to store lists of visited sites in every possible browser feature or extension. Last one being the storage access API, but at least this one seems to be cleared with history. Just say no.

      2. Anonymous said on February 4, 2019 at 9:53 pm

        “CCleaner premium”

        PS : avoid CCleaner if you care about privacy and not having malware installed with CCleaner updates (yes it happened) ; and all Avast products if you care about your computer still working.

  4. user17843 said on February 1, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    With tracking protection enabled by default this is a pretty good feature for casual users.

  5. gwacks said on February 1, 2019 at 2:53 pm

    “I have to admit that I never fully understood why extensions need to be disabled in private browsing mode. ”

    Excuse me, you can’t be serious because something in ghacks’ user.js read:

    “PB also does not allow indexedDB which breaks many Extensions that use it including uBlock Origin and uMatrix”

    For this reason, I had to disable TBB’s default auto PB mode to make uBO just workable.

    But not a bad bait I’d say xD.

    1. Anonymous said on February 4, 2019 at 10:03 pm

      The extensions being broken in private browsing is a Firefox bug, this has nothing to do with the reasons given by Mozilla to disable extensions by default in private browsing.

      The reason behind these bugs is that new Mozilla decided as a general philosophy that extensions should not be treated as empowering user-chosen privileged code compared to (Google and other) nasty website code, so that if features like some forms of storage, web workers, service workers and so on cannot be used by websites because a user wanted to protect himself by disabling them, then extensions should be broken too by not having access to those features either.

  6. Tom Hawack said on February 1, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    I don’t use Firefox’s Private Mode, I’ve even disabled it (Policies, “DisablePrivateBrowsing”: true) but should I use it that I certainly wouldn’t block my Webextensions, especially that ‘uBlock Origin’ would be of the lot. All extensions not related to privacy may very well be disabled for private Browsing, but certainly not privacy related ones.

    Either an extension is healthy, either it isn’t.

    Disallowing extensions in Private Mode is a weird approach IMO. It is planned to be by default, thanksfully.

  7. Dilly Dilly said on February 1, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    My extensions work just fine in private mode using PALEMOON. Fork FF! On a side note, recently I’ve noticed that more and more sites are breaking when using ad-blockers, seems the war is at our doorstep now.

  8. lux said on February 1, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Sites use ad’s to pay for hosting. if you block ad’s, they have every right to not allow you access to the site. In some cases there is a profit, it’s still their prerogative.
    I’d always chose Pale-moon over FF, anyways.

  9. pat said on February 1, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    The best would be to have both possibilities for extensions, namely, whether or not to activate in each mode, private or normal. This way, we can have completely different extensions in each mode.

  10. Clairvaux said on February 1, 2019 at 10:46 pm

    “I have to admit that I never fully understood why extensions need to be disabled in private browsing mode. While doing so may block untrustworthy extension developers from recording user data, it at the same time disables content blockers.”

    That’s the problem. Why would a privacy mode prevent the use of privacy tools ? I suffer that annoyance in Vivaldi. When I launch an Incognito window, my uMatrix is nowhere to be seen.

    1. Hy said on February 2, 2019 at 5:00 am

      Clairvaux said “When I launch an Incognito window, my uMatrix is nowhere to be seen.”

      What about going into Vivaldi’s individual extension settings and setting uMatrix to “Allow in incognito”? I haven’t tried it myself but it seems like that should work.

      1. Clairvaux said on February 2, 2019 at 6:48 am

        @ Hy

        Now that you mention it, I remember. I didn’t allow uMatrix in Incognito, because there’s a warning saying that “Vivaldi cannot prevent extensions from recording your browsing history.”

        I don’t know what that means. In practice. I can’t be bothered to investigate beyond a certain point. It says it’s “bad” for privacy, so, all right, I’m an obedient Internet citizen, and I don’t do things that are bad for privacy.

  11. Nomorezilla said on February 1, 2019 at 11:55 pm

    It’s years that Mozilla fails me with any improvement they release… back to Firefox 3.6.24

  12. supergirl said on February 2, 2019 at 4:46 am

    @Anonymous – – -Unsurprisingly Mozilla is again following Google in their anti-user decisions.
    SAD BUT TRUE.

    @seeprime ——If anyone wants to use a working Firefox private mode they need to check out Tor browser, based on Firefox.
    GENIUS !!! EXCELLENT RESPONSE.

    @ Tom Hawack —Private Mode, Incognito and so on are pure rubbish, a gigantic joke.
    SAD BUT TRUE.

    I don’t use Firefox’s PrivateBY Mode, I’ve even disabled it (Policies, “DisablePrivateBrowsing”: true)
    THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!! I WAS JUST WONDERING YESTERDAY AFTER I BORKED
    AN UNRECOVERABLE DOWNLOAD IF THERE WAS A WAY TO DO JUST THAT!!!

    @John Fenderson—I disagree. I think the problem with these modes is that they’re named wrong.
    YOU HAVE A POINT BUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS USING A MISCONCEPTION TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
    UNDERHANDED……TO SAY THE LEAST.

    gwacks & Clairvaux – – — More wisdom thanks!

    now on to the “Dunning–Kruger/Darwin Award” winning replies:

    @Tom —-I laff at your puny reply……Who is the troll?????

    @Zemtex Abacadabra…*poof*
    Do you EVEN know what is really Going on?
    Exactly the opposite of what you think…which is why savvy users are dismayed

    “YOUVE BEEN VIOLATED GIRLY-MAN!!!!!!

    @ LOSER… ummmm I mean user17843 — With tracking protection enabled by default
    this is a pretty good feature for casual users. <——TOO FUNNY!!!! TOO FUNNY !!!! THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE!

    @lux —-"Sites use ad’s to pay for hosting.{Blah blah blah} they have every right…..{idiocy continues}

    Its the Internet YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS & NEITHER DO 'THEY'……please re-read this until you understand.

    1. 99 said on February 2, 2019 at 10:42 am

      I bet,
      some of this ghacks pundits who zealously claim, that they never use Private Browsing, are always in Private Browsing mode.

      How can it be?

      The equivalent to always being in Private Browsing mode is, if you choose “Never remember history” from the drop-down menu in the Privacy & Security panel.

      When Firefox is set to “Never remember history” you won’t see that purple mask at the top of each window, even though you are effectively in Private Browsing mode.

      Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/private-browsing-use-firefox-without-history#w_can-i-set-firefox-to-always-use-private-browsing

      I also bet, some of this “experts” never → Read The Fucking Manual

      SAD BUT TRUE

    2. lux said on February 2, 2019 at 7:13 pm

      @Supergirl

      Prove me wrong, with factual references and with out ad-homeniem or other logical fallacy.

      Supergirl: “Internet YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS & NEITHER DO ‘THEY”

      “The term digital rights describes the human rights that allow individuals to access, use, create, and publish digital media or to access and use computers, other electronic devices, or communications networks. The term is particularly related to the protection and realization of existing rights, such as the right to privacy or freedom of expression, in the context of new digital technologies, especially the Internet. Right to Internet access is recognized as a right by the laws of several countries”

      if you look into the facts, you are quite wrong.

      As-to advertisement’s and ad-blockers, they have the prerogative to deny access if you use an ad-blocker. Most are quite kind and ask for you to do so on the pop-up, explaining what I’ve exactly said: They use the ad revenue for hosting and site maintenance. There might be net-profit, still their prerogative. This is a well known fact.

      I suggest you do in-depth research before name calling ;)

      in case you don’t know what ad-hominem / name calling is:

      “Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.”

      Take care supergurl!

      1. supergirl said on February 4, 2019 at 3:20 am

        Hi Lux I owe you an apology & Im sorry.
        I have been looking for this post of mine since the day after I wrote it.
        I Was inexcusably rude to you & many others in this thread.

        During my search today & last few days for other comments I made a while back
        I have seen MANY intelligent posts by you & even user17843.

        I seem to have attracted at least 1 troll with all my Linux boosting.
        In fact there is one reply “by me” that I know I didnt write.
        It makes me look retarded..LoL
        I allowed this to annoy me..& it shows, here especially.
        I decided to Kick em right back & then proceeded to hit the wrong targets,Sorry!

        Hopefully we can cordially disagree….:)

        You like DRM I do not.
        You like Capitalism I REALLY,REALLY do not…..*smirk*

        I said to someone in 1999 that I wish all money making was banned from the Inet.
        Everything should be free..like the Public Library.
        I still agree,mostly,with this sentiment.

        Most of the replies I laffed at seemed to think private browsing keeps them private ON the internet.
        When really all it does is keep the info offa your computer.

        I didnt need to be rude to anyone in this thread & will try to be better in the future.

      2. lux said on February 4, 2019 at 9:20 am

        @supergirl

        No worries, ah understand.

        I’m not endorsing DRM; I think websites and hosts who put the money and effort into a site should be able to advertise, such as Ghacks does ;)
        I also think a person should be able to use an adblocker (i do and white-list quality sites).
        At the same time i think a webmaster should be able to (not alot do) deny access if a person does run an adblocker; such as double edged blades are. These are my opinions.

        Capitalism isn’t perfect. Though, I think it’s the best option this planet has seen so far.
        If you look at the consequences socialism and communism has to:
        Venezuela, Russia, Germany, China. (not sure if that’s exactly what you are suggesting)
        Totalitarian governments don’t end well, even if they are dressed in humanitarianism.
        A constitutional republic is the best and most honest system I’ve seen by far, and I’ve researched this quite alot.
        Not much is free and everything has a relative value and cost cycle, even the public library ;)

        Best wishes.

      3. Anonymous said on February 4, 2019 at 10:35 pm

        “A constitutional republic is the best and most honest system I’ve seen by far, and I’ve researched this quite alot.”
        “Venezuela, Russia, China.”

        All constitutional republics at the times you’re talking about. Technically even more republican than under capitalism.

      4. lux said on February 5, 2019 at 12:10 am

        @ Anonymous (fool)
        have some courage and take a meaningful moniker.

        “All constitutional republics at the times you’re talking about. Technically even more republican than under capitalism.”

        I mentioned no time frames, so you are the one who is based on false assumptions.
        LOL: Republican is a commercial political party, a republic is:

        “A republic is a form of government in which the country is considered a “public matter”, not the private concern or property of the rulers. The primary positions of power within a republic are not inherited. It is a form of government under which the head of state is not a monarch.”

        The nasi’s (national socialist german workers party) were socialists and the soviets were communists. so you have that simple aspect backwards… anyone who spells: nasi with a “z” I consider an uninformed idiot ;)
        Millions of dead under socialism and communism. Huge consequence, Simple fact.
        You straw man alot, saying I said many things I did not

        “The party name was a far right trick to look like left and get workers support to screw them afterwards”
        This is nothing but conspiracy theory ;) prove this empty statement, with factual references.

        To clarify, most people are ignorant as to the left-right paradigm.
        It is a scale of political/governmental dialectic:

        On the left is socialism and communism: Maximum totalitarian government
        in the middle is a Constitutional Republic: Moderate Representative government
        On the right is anarchy. An-Archy: without hierarchy. Least government.
        So many fools think that socialism is on the “right”. Nothing but pure ignorance.

        to say communism is the antithesis of socialism is to ignore they are both:
        Totalitarian governments to destroy the proletariat and capture the government to ensure hegemony.

        I suggest you read: The gulag archipelago, to cure your lack of personal reference.

        “Nowadays capitalism is going on with this farce of identifying socialist republics with historic fascism as the arch-enemy while welcoming openly neo-fascist politicians taking more and more political control in European countries (including Germany) and in some of them already jailing/killing communists and trade-unionists simply for being communists or trade-unionists like in good old fascist times”

        Give some factual reference as to this statement, or is it your opinion?
        Pointing the finger at corrupted capitalism which has become a hybrid of socialism and communism is a false comparison to un-adulterated capitalism.
        I.E central bank, government control of means of production, progressive income tax, confiscation of private property, etc. Nothing but thievery.

        “Capitalism is an economic system based upon private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system, and competitive markets”

        You provide ZERO factual reference. So, saying I lack facts is ludicrous and hypocritical.

        “a nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves”
        Carpe Diem.

      5. supergirl said on February 5, 2019 at 1:21 am

        Again I was presumptuous….
        Since this is so far off topic I will try to be brief but spectacular….LoL

        If you understand America…..this will describe me.
        Im a liberal democratic type. Love Al Gore & Hillary.
        Despise RReagan.Nixon GWB & U-Know-Hooo!

        The progressives are Wrong @ Race,Drugs & sex.
        I think young girls NEED a society that helps them say no..
        Until they are ready for sex.Thats way older than 15…
        Drugs & alcohol even in small but regular doses turn most people into Dicks.

        Im really,REALLY sick of anti-white rascism.
        The Gov in Virginia(?) did black face in college in 1986..Big deal.
        Being called on to resign for that, idiotic..this nonsense is why liberals lose.
        Stick to the important stuff.Geeze!

        The Republicants/conservatives & Lyin Fox News are all wrong about EVERYthing else.
        Electric cars only! Powered by Thorium reactor produced electricity!
        Im Pro-environment,I think Human population is more than double what it should be…
        Im for No Poor people & No rich people.
        Especially no Filthy rich people.They only benefit ….themselves..LoL

        Since I dont log-in I can be Imp-ped & I canot subscribe to a thread.
        I recently created a Wide-open FFox profile so I can get ads to support Martin.

      6. lux said on February 5, 2019 at 3:23 am

        @supergirl

        Hillary should be investigated for the uranium one scandal and a personal e-mail server of witch she disseminated classified information. Benghazi as well, though the families that lost loved ones have yet to appeal the case.

        Both Democrats and Republicans are corrupt and this whole blue vs red is the definition of ordo ab chao: order out of chaos. divide and conquer.

        Sick of anti white racism and your a democrat? Lol @ that.

        Every one has their differences, lets just keep peace and tranquility. To put our differences aside would solve alot of problems.

  13. Graham Perrin said on February 2, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    https://www.reddit.com/comments/amepm0/-/eflfitf/

    >> … no way to force an extension to run in private browsing, even with enterprise policies …

  14. Peterc said on February 2, 2019 at 9:21 pm

    The only reason to use Private/Incognito mode is to prevent your wife from checking your browsing history and discovering that you’ve been looking at … reviews of sports cars and speed boats that your household can’t really afford. What? You thought I was going to say something different? Your Tinder profile, maybe? Nah, she already saw that on her phone, and swiped left. ;-)

    1. Clairvaux said on February 3, 2019 at 12:41 am

      If private mode is about not recording history, then it also enhances outward privacy, isn’t it ? Aren’t plenty of sites out there trying to read your browsing history ?

      1. user17843 said on February 3, 2019 at 9:32 pm

        @Clairvaux: Nope. The web isn’t the dangerous place some people want it to be.

      2. Clairvaux said on February 3, 2019 at 9:48 pm

        user x : I’m humbled by your incredible research and illuminating arguments.

  15. Headbanger said on February 2, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    mozillica_-_sad_but_true.mp3

  16. Martin Brinkmann said on February 5, 2019 at 7:16 am

    I understand that people like to debate politics but this is not the right place to do so. I have closed comments on this article because of that. Hope you understand!