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Chromium's "Show Url" is the most useless thing I have ever seen in a browser

Every now and then, browser makers make decisions that seem in diametrical opposition to what user's want or expect from a browser. Granted, these companies have lots of Telemetry data that the public does not have access to, and that data may suggest to them that the change makes sense.

Google started to hide certain elements from the URL in the address bar some time ago. Particularly, Chrome hides https://, http://, and www from the URL by default and Chrome engineers stated that the information was not required by most users. For secure sites, Chrome shows a padlock icon to indicate that the site is secure but that is that.

If you visit Ghacks, you will notice that Chrome omits the "www" part of the address. While it makes no difference here on this site, it is theoretically possible that site content differs when accessing a site using www and without www.

Note: Mozilla plans to remove HTTPS and WWW from Firefox's address bar as well.

A click in the address bar currently displays the full address. While that is better than nothing, it is cumbersome to do so. Google removed a flag in the browser some time ago that allowed users to restore the full address in the browser. Chrome users may install the company's Suspicious Site Reporter extension or a third-party extension that restores the functionality.

Now, it appears that Google is working on another option to restore the functionality. Recent versions of Chromium, the open source core of Chrome and other Chromium-based browsers, sport a new experimental flag to add a context menu option to Chrome. What it does? It gives users the option to display the full address from the right-click context menu.

The problem? It is only active for the currently loaded site and only until a reload. Why would anyone use the context menu to display the full address if a single left-click in the address bar does the same?

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The only explanation that I have for that is that the feature is not fully implemented yet. It could be that the option will toggle the functionality permanently or at least for the session once fully implemented. If not, it does not look as if it is a feature that could be of use to anyone using  the web browser.

The flag is only active in Chromium currently. While you see it in Chrome Canary currently, enabling it does nothing at the time of writing.

Now You: What is your take on the hiding of information in a browser's address bar? (via Techdows)

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  1. ShintoPlasm said on March 23, 2020 at 8:30 am
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    Clearly the coronavirus has addled the brains of Google’s devs as they no longer have access to their daily mashed avocado on toast.

  2. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 8:51 am
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    Ungoogled Chromium doesn’t have this problem. It shows the whole URL by default already. Those who use Google Chrome have other things to worry about.

    1. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 12:11 pm
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      @Iron Heart: when I started reading the article I thought to myself I would post a comment that UC displays the full URL. +1 for your comment, incl. about Chrome.

    2. Yuliya said on March 23, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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      https://i.imgur.com/krG763V.png
      I just switched yesterday to Ungoogled Chromium. It’s still a custom build from https://chromium.woolyss.com/
      80.0.3987.149 (989) • Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 Marmaduke up-to-date ungoogled widevine all-codecs+ no-sync win64
      Before I was using the dev builds, but since the only extension I install is uB0, it doesn’t bother me to load it manually.

    3. Cor said on March 23, 2020 at 1:45 pm
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      Another recent Ungoogled Chromium user here. Probably off-topic, but does spell check work for you? Or do I have to download the dictionary from the official Chromium repo?

      1. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 2:22 pm
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        @Cor: spell check works for me in UC.

      2. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 4:29 pm
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        @Cor

        The spell checking of Ungoogled Chromium doesn’t work, as the feature was removed entirely, due to it being dependent on Google:

        https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/issues/188

        I personally use the Brave browser, which has a working spell checker.

        No idea why it works for @Klaas Vaak, the Ungoogled Chromium dev confirmed that it is not working(?).

    4. Cor said on March 23, 2020 at 7:58 pm
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      @Klaas Vaak @Iron Heart
      Thanks both!

    5. Pierre said on March 24, 2020 at 5:09 pm
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      That’s not true in the ‘Chromiums’ of Linux distributions

  3. Anonymous said on March 23, 2020 at 10:55 am
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    seems some devs are close to a braindead state. if they would stop softwashing every shit, then we had less problems at the end

  4. Jozsef said on March 23, 2020 at 11:10 am
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    It’s insane. The fashion today is to embrace the idea that everything is clutter and everything confuses the average user. Removing and hiding everything is evidently wonderful because many clicks to unearth a function or setting, if it still exists at all, is somehow never a potential problem. It’s like a religion and you can’t fight a belief with mere facts or logic. To these people, the rightness of their approach is self evidently correct and is simple common sense.

  5. Paul(us) said on March 23, 2020 at 12:16 pm
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    Like I stated before “Not smart!”.
    More information is less change on mishaps.
    Agreed on that the indicator works ( But not good enough right now for me) but for me personally it’s much too early day, to restrict the URL to only an indicator.

  6. md said on March 23, 2020 at 12:56 pm
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    It’s not that the devs are idiots, but that they follow the Google long term idea to replace the “URL”. I’m sure you all know someone who doesn’t know that writing mypage.com in the addressbar takes them to that website, but rather Search for it (which by default is Google search), then click the 1st result.

    Google want’s to kill the notion of websites and become 2000 Yahoo, a directory of “safe” and “fact checked” website which fill $agenda and $directoryposition attributes.

  7. pd said on March 23, 2020 at 1:00 pm
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    Hiding address bar information is idiotic.

    Absolutely love the title of this article :) Brilliant.

  8. chesscanoe said on March 23, 2020 at 1:23 pm
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    I run Chrome Version 81.0.4044.69 (Official Build) beta (64-bit). If you install the “Suspicious Site Reporter” extension from the Chrome Store and restart, you see
    “https://www.ghacks.net/2020/03/23/chromiums-show-url-is-the-most-useless-thing-i-have-ever-seen-in-a-browser/” or at least the beginning of that depending on the room you have.

  9. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 1:23 pm
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    @Yuliya

    Marmaduke’s Ungoogled Chromium build is literally the sanest browser out there currently, and I am saying this without a single shred of irony. Only Bromite equals it, in case you own an Android smartphone.

    As far as extensions go, I would also consider HTTPS Everywhere (except in Brave, which already has it built-in) and Decentraleyes and Cookie AutoDelete to be essential.

    1. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 2:28 pm
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      @Iron Heart: you got me confused now. I am using Eloston UC (https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium). Are different versions of UC maintained by different persons? Is one better, saner, more private than the other?

      1. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 2:40 pm
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        @Iron Heart: is the setting DNS-over-HTTP (DoH) in chrome://flags a good substitute for the HTTPS Everywhere extension?

      2. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 3:48 pm
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        @Klaas Vaak

        Marmaduke’s builds come with Widevine DRM, which is good for people who intend to use Ungoogled Chromium for streaming services like Amazon Prime, Netflix etc. which demand this to be installed. It also comes bundled with support for proprietary video codecs Chromium otherwise doesn’t support: https://chromium.woolyss.com/#html5-audio-video

        In terms of privacy, there is no advantage compared to the build you use. I just say “sanest” regarding Marmaduke’s builds because they are the most feature-complete, most ready-to-use builds with great privacy out there.

        DNS over HTTPS (DoH) and HTTPS Everywhere are completely different things, both can work concurrently, more info here:

        https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere

        https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/a-guide-to-dns-over-https-how-a-new-web-protocol-aims-to-protect-your-privacy-online

      3. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 6:05 pm
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        @Iron Heart: many thanks for your detailed, helpful reply. You set my mind at ease re the versions of UC. I don’t use Amazon or Netflix streaming services, though I do occasionally use YouTube and have seen no drawbacks, so I guess that’s fine.

        As for DoH and HTTPS Everywhere, I am not sure I fully understand the difference after reading the pages you linked to. It seems to me DoH happens at the outgoing end, i.e. user’s computer, whilst HTTPS happens at the receiving end, i.e. the web site. Be that as it may, I had enabled the DoH flag in UC and disabled HE; following your comment I re-enabled HE so have them both.

        Thanks again :-)

      4. ghs said on March 23, 2020 at 6:05 pm
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        re: “In terms of privacy, there is no advantage…”

        Apparently you do not understand that the client component of the Widevine DRM mechanism generates a hardware-based ID key, which serves as an indelible fingerprint.

        The fingerprint is, necessarily, consulted each time your browser attempts to retrieve Widevine-protected content. Regardless the IP address you are hailing from, regardless whether your browser places the request via a VPN tunnel or via TOR, you are (your device is) positively identifiable.

        Across years we have seen the practice of embedding 1×1 px images (aka web bugs, tracking pixels) and can expect that 1×1 -sized, DRM-protected, embedded bugs will be put to similar use.

      5. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 6:51 pm
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        @ghs

        Well, I do know that, since I have done quite some reading on how fingerprinting works (out of curiosity). However, if you want to use streaming services, there is no way around using Widevine if you want to use streaming services (except maybe if you resort to dedicated streaming apps). It really depends on whether you need streaming services in your browser or not, though you are correct of course that this has privacy implications. I am just saying that you either decide that you need it (with the associated downsides), or you don’t.

    2. Yuliya said on March 23, 2020 at 4:39 pm
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      Most websites which I visit are https, and the onles which allow both http/https I bookmark the https link.
      Decentraleyes is something which I’ll consider, I used it in the past when it came out, and it’s really a nice extension.

  10. allen said on March 23, 2020 at 1:31 pm
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    “A click in the address bar currently displays the full address.”

    Takes [me] 2 clicks actually. First one selects the URL; second one deselects and displays entire URL.

  11. smee said on March 23, 2020 at 2:34 pm
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    >Chromium’s “Show Url” is the most useless thing I have ever seen in a browser

    This is certainly a poorly though of title, for a journalist.

  12. Clairvaux said on March 23, 2020 at 2:36 pm
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    I can see the point for many mass-market users. As for me, I want to see the full address. Ideally, this should be an option.

    I use Vivaldi (Chrome-based), and there is an option in Settings to show the full address or not. However what’s possibly omitted is just the http, not the www.

  13. Help said on March 23, 2020 at 2:42 pm
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    Help, please

    would someone please explain to me what “Ungoogled Chrome” means. Is it a different kind of browser and where can I find it ? Yes, I checked on the web but did not find meaningful information. Thanks in advance.

    1. Iron Heart said on March 23, 2020 at 3:33 pm
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      @Help

      Ungoogled Chromium is a variant of the Chromium codebase (the codebase Google Chrome uses) that is focused on privacy, and puts great emphasis on removing all connections to Google from the browser. You can read everything you need to know about it here (scroll down the page a bit):

      https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

      If you care about privacy, you should use it over Chrome. It also supports all Chrome extensions and themes from the Chrome Web Store, in case you use any.

      There are two downsides to using it, though. The first negative aspect is that it doesn’t update itself automatically, so you constantly have to manually check the downloads website in order to see whether or not an update for it is available. The second downside is that it can’t install extensions and themes from the Chrome Web Store right away, at least not without using this extension:

      https://github.com/enolgor/ungoogled-chromium-extension-installer

      Although Ungoogled Chromium is great for privacy, I do not use it anymore because of said downsides. I use the Brave browser, which is also good for privacy, but doesn’t have the downsides of Ungoogled Chromium:

      https://brave.com/

      1. Klaas Vaak said on March 23, 2020 at 6:16 pm
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        @Iron Heart: I am on a Mac and the app manager I have discovered, Homebrew and Homebrew Cask (for GUI apps) are fantastic. Installation of an app is so easy and fast. Furthermore, it is possible with 1 simple command line to check which of the apps installed via Homebrew are out of date – “brew cask outdated”. Updating is equally easy: “brew cask upgrade” or brew cask upgrade .

        I had initially installed a number of apps by using their .dmg package, but after discovering the simplicity of Homebrew I reinstalled them. Now, when I want to install a new app, I 1st check if there is a Homebrew version.

        I believe Homebrew might also be installed on Linux (not sure), I don’t think there’s a Windows version.

        I am sure you know all this, but I added it to slightly modify your reply to “Help” re the update downside.

      2. PS Doff said on March 23, 2020 at 10:02 pm
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        Interesting, but the subject isn’t app management. You are off topic.

      3. Iron Heart said on March 24, 2020 at 2:47 am
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        @Klaas Vaak

        Thanks for the tip regarding Homebrew, though admittedly I would have little use for it outside of Ungoogled Chromium, as all of my other applications either have their own updater or update via the Mac App Store (I am on a Mac as well).

        There are other reasons why I use Brave over Ungoogled Chromium apart from Ungoogled Chromium’s usability deficiencies. For one, I don’t know for sure whether Ungoogled Chromium’s adblocking capabilities can be saved once Manifest V3 becomes mandatory, with Brave I know that the internal native adblocker will continue to work, as it does not rely on extension APIs. Brave does also have privacy enhancements exceeding those of Ungoogled Chromium, here is one example:

        https://brave.com/whats-brave-done-for-my-privacy-lately-episode3/

        Furthermore, Brave includes the Ungoogled Chromium patch sets already (list is outdated, their support for the patches is now complete afaik):

        https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/1431

        Ungoogled Chromium is a more “neutral” choice for most people, especially for those opposed to Brave’s private advertising model even though it is completely opt-in. But there is no incentive for me to use Ungoogled Chromium over Brave really, quite the contrary actually. UC is undisputedly great for privacy, but so is Brave + Brave has other benefits.

  14. michel said on March 23, 2020 at 2:55 pm
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    I, and probably most people, almost never need access to the url at all. I’d prefer they simply stop dedicating so much screen space to it.

  15. user said on March 23, 2020 at 3:08 pm
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    another Plus for Vivaldi

    1. anona said on March 23, 2020 at 5:27 pm
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      or Opera

  16. Jim Vanderbilt said on March 23, 2020 at 3:28 pm
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    “Why would anyone use the context menu to display the full address if a single left-click in the address bar does the same?”
    Today: No reason.
    Tomorrow: Because the single left-click doesn’t.

    1. anona said on March 23, 2020 at 5:26 pm
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      Indeed. It used to be: 1. click url 2. copy

      But thanks to Google it soon will be: 1. go to chrome://flags 2. enable the ‘show url’ function 3. right-click in url bar 4. click ‘show url’ 5. copy

      And then probably in a later version, it won’t even be copy the real URL anymore but will instead give you a “short URL by google” (like tinyurl but from google). They’ll do everything to destroy URLs and nudge people to only use search and forget about non-SEO’d, non-corporate and/or politically incorrect websites.

    2. Anonymous said on March 23, 2020 at 9:16 pm
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      Yes, this addition looks like a sign that it’s going to be even more difficult to see the URL in the future. And as usual Mozilla will follow.

  17. Denn said on March 23, 2020 at 5:43 pm
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    How to make a person feel good? First make it bad, and then return it as it was. ;)

    1. Peterc said on March 24, 2020 at 2:45 am
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      @Denn: Yeah, but when they bring it back, it will be sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup instead of sugar, and soon, people will be clamoring for imported Mexican Chrome. ;-)

  18. Henry Daweey said on March 23, 2020 at 6:59 pm
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    Why doesn’t ghacks get rid of the www. anyway?

    1. Yuliya said on March 23, 2020 at 8:13 pm
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      I like the www :(

  19. Prophet said on March 23, 2020 at 7:26 pm
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    This has to do with AMP again.

    With signed url exchanges, websites beholden to ranking on google search will be eventually forced to host their files on google infrastructure and even under googl.com/amp or ampproject as the real website hosting it all. Making urls lie about where theyre actually run from is meant to give the illusion that a site like bbc.com loads almost instantly on chrome because its that good and firefox loading bbc.com in seconds despite tracking and ad blocked means its slow.

    The toggles to show, modify and share the url from chrome are already expunging parts of the real url when you use them ( thats why you cant freely edit urls on mobile chromium anymore but have to click edit)

  20. Q said on March 23, 2020 at 8:32 pm
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    From the article: “The only explanation that I have for that is that the feature is not fully implemented yet. It could be that the option will toggle the functionality permanently or at least for the session once fully implemented.”

    I do not use a version of Chromium the hides the URL and do not have much experience with the URL hiding. The change does come across as an improvement. I would prefer not hiding the URL in the first place.

    There is also the possibly that a future change to the Chromium behavior is planned to remove the showing of the URL on left-click.

  21. PS DOff said on March 23, 2020 at 9:59 pm
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    “A click in the address bar currently displays the full address. ” It takes two clicks.

  22. PS Doff said on March 23, 2020 at 10:09 pm
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    Have pity on Chromium’s developers. They may be able to work from home, but what they can work on is being slowed down by what their primary customer, Google is asking for.

    The developers are probably so bored that they will make small changes without need to see if anyone cares, They’d hate me. I could live without anything except bug fixes for literally years.

  23. Petrick said on March 24, 2020 at 12:45 am
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    Next move: Remove the address bar, put five buttons with URLs hardcoded on them. Google, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and Outlook.

  24. Scott said on March 24, 2020 at 3:32 am
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    Know what’s really useless? The ability to show a pop-up asking if I want to receive notifications or add a site to my home screen.

  25. oxfordcomma said on March 24, 2020 at 5:28 am
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    Yeah, almost as useless as that apostrophe in “user’s.”

  26. Jeff said on March 24, 2020 at 9:50 am
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    ‘Yes, this addition looks like a sign that it’s going to be even more difficult to see the URL in the future.’

    The reason is dear reader Google wants to feed you and make you dumb. Whatever your views are they will reinforce them just like Facebook.
    Google and and Facebook want you to depend exclusively on them for ALL your needs.
    In the end you become and idiot. I ask people what is the source of their news (when they make outrageous claims) and they can’t tell me because the URL is hidden.

    Many of the comments here lack clarity. For example its hard to tell if its Chrome, Chromium or Ungoogled Chromium. Everything is a mixed up mess with super-long URL references.

    Every other browser is built by the development team and THEY provide both the source AND the binary releases.

    The complex Chrome and Chromium are built process is controlled with tools developed by Google engineers. Its NOT open source.

    Now ask your self why Ungoolged Chromium is released as source code ONLY? Cough…
    The bottom line is Google engineers exploit their superior intelligence to rule over society.

    If you want a DRM then buy a dedicated streamer. I use an Apple 4K on its own dedicated isolated unencrypted line (Apple encrypts to prevent ISP spying).
    Another option is to add a second SSD (with Kodi) and dual boot my AMD 2400G at the BIOS level. I enjoy ATMOS/4K with my Samsung HW-Q90R soundbar.

  27. Ivan said on March 24, 2020 at 10:00 am
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    In the future, the only websites allowed are shown in a web store. People will forget what “URL” means.
    /jk

  28. Chuck said on March 24, 2020 at 12:21 pm
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    I just clicked the url that just had ghacks.net as the start. It changed to include the http://www.ghacks then when clicking anywhere on the page it reverted back to ghacks.net. Sorry I didn’t read but a couple of comments so this post may be a dupe. lol

  29. jern said on March 24, 2020 at 4:18 pm
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    I tend to get suspicious when companies like Google start to restrict what can be seen. If you can’t see it you can’t question why it’s there.

    In August 2019, Martin posted “Chrome 76: no more https or www in address bar.” He noted…”Google called these subdomains trivial because it believed that most Internet users would not require the information.” That, or perhaps Google might want to justify hiding other parts of the URL.

    There are several extensions for Firefox (ClearURLs, Neat URL and Pure URL) that remove tracking elements from URLs. A lot of those tracking elements are put there by Google. Out of sight, out of mind.

  30. primebeef said on March 24, 2020 at 5:48 pm
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    Guys, this is obviously preparing for remote code execution via URLs. NSA already used sketchy URLs a decade ago, imagine how much nicer it’ll be if your target can’t spot suspicious URLs because the weird parts are hidden all the time?

  31. Jewish Hacker said on March 24, 2020 at 6:18 pm
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    Hands off www!

    Stop messaging with reality by trying to abstract it away with uselessly design ideas…

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