Firefox 34 feels rushed

Martin Brinkmann
Dec 2, 2014
Updated • Sep 7, 2015

Mozilla released Firefox 34 yesterday after delaying the release for a week. If you look at user feedback here on this site, on discussion sites such as Reddit or on the official add-ons repository, you may notice that users report quite a few issues in these places.

This article looks at common issues that users experienced after their version of Firefox updated to version 34.

There has been some confusion about the actual release itself. Mozilla worked on Firefox 34.0 and 34.0.5 at the same time and users did not really know which release to get.

Mozilla itself seems to have delivered the 34.0 version to most users though but it is still not clear if some received 34.0.5 instead.

Firefox 34.0 issues

The new search bar

This search bar feels rushed in many regards and appears to be the number one complaint that users have. There are always users who criticize change but the new search form changes how search works and lacks features that the old search supported.

Probably the biggest issues from a user point of view are that you cannot reorder or remove search engines, or set or modify search keywords. Existing keywords work just fine but there is simply no way to edit or set them anymore.

This seems temporary and underlines that the new search form seems rushed. If you remember, it was pushed directly to Firefox Beta and not Nightly.

While there are no information available as to why, the most likely explanation is that the new deal with Yahoo played a role somehow.

Good news is, you can turn it off. Simple set to false and you have the old bar back. You need to restart the browser once though.

It is unclear however if this is just a temporary workaround or if the old interface will remain part of the browser.

Update: Mozilla removed the preference in Firefox 43. This means that it is no longer possible to use the old search interface in the browser. Users who have set the preference previously will have the UI reset in this regard to reflect that.

Another option that you have is to load chrome://browser/content/search/engineManager.xul directly. This displays the old search management page that you can use to edit keywords.

Mozilla is working on getting keyword functionality back and from the looks of it, will integrate it on the new search preferences page under options. See bug 1106055 for additional information.

Firefox Hello not appearing as an icon

Firefox Hello is a new real-time communication feature that Firefox users can make use of to make audio or video calls right from the browser without third-party software or plugins.

Several users reported that the Hello icon, which is needed to use the functionality, is not appearing in the customization menu of Firefox.

Update: it appears that the feature is launched gradually. If you set loop.throttled to false it will appear immediately after a restart. The reasoning behind this is to avoid server overload.

Flashblock not working anymore

The popular Firefox add-on Flashblock which provides you with the means to block Flash contents in the web browser stopped working in Firefox 34.

Users are reporting that the add-on stopped working in Firefox 34 and the main reason for that appears to be that the extension is no longer maintained actively.

The last version released by its author is version 1.5.17 released March 23, 2013.

Alternatives that Flashblock users may want to try:

To be fair, this seems to be a neglect issue by the author and not really something that one can blame Mozilla for.

Now You: Have you tried Firefox 34 yet? If so, what is your take?

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Firefox 34 feels rushed
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  1. hank said on February 17, 2015 at 3:21 am

    I only quoted the last few of a long list of my crash reports, presuming they all can be looked up if someone’s interested.

    Answering your questions:
    > Does your Firefox’s “View Selection Source” function crash whenever you “highlight anything”,
    only after I click the menu, it rolls down, and I click on “View Selection Source” — then I get a blank window briefly followed by Firefox exiting and a crash report being created

    > or only certain types of text on certain pages ?
    any page, any text

    > 2/8/15 … what were you doing
    Sorry, I’ll try to fill out the info each time. I probably just tried to capture some source text without thinking about it, crashed and closed out.

    > Security Update 2014-001.
    Yes, I applied that when it came out, double checked; I’ve had crashes since then

    > type of crash have been occurring quite frequently since Mac FF v 30
    Thanks. Somehow I missed those when trying to find prior reports. I’ll follow those and hope.

  2. hank said on February 15, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    Thanks; that quicktime-related thread is Windows, from 2008 and closed in 2011, so may not be relevant to today’s 35.0.1 FF on the Mac.

    Thanks for the pointer to about:crashes, I didn’t know about that.

    there’s a line that says: Bugzilla – Report this bug in Firefox Core Plugins Toolkit

    “Process Type” — doesn’t appear on the page it shows me
    “Crashing Thread” — 70 lines, some red with a “theta” (circle with slash) in first column

    So I went ahead and followed the “Report this bug” link and looked, didn’t find it, and created a report listing some of the crash reports:

    1. PJ said on February 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      @hank — Hopefully a Mozilla developer would take up your case-report soon. Some thoughts as follows:-

      1) Does your Firefox’s “View Selection Source” function crash whenever you “highlight anything”, or only certain types of text on certain pages ?

      Your 2/14/15 & 2/9/15 FF crashes were caused by Mac OS X’s CoreText rendering engine. This could be due to one of many bugs affecting Apple’s CoreText framework.

      Incidentally, there is a CoreText bug that makes the in-use application crash when trying to render certain unicode fonts. Bug’s nickname: Unicode of Death. Have you applied the below patch ?
      CoreText: OS X Mavericks 10.9 & 10.9.1
      "Applications that use CoreText may be vulnerable to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution. A signedness issue existed in CoreText in the handling of Unicode fonts. This issue is addressed through improved bounds checking."

      2) Your 2/8/15 FF crash was caused by your Mac OS’s libmozalloc.dylib file, apparently when trying to render some kind of font or symbol (“mozalloc_abort in gfxFontGroup”). Perhaps this triggered an Out of Memory crash or runtime abort. Your report’s “User Comments” section is blank. What were you doing when FF crashed ?

      In Sep 2014, it was commented that the aforementioned type of crash have been occurring quite frequently since Mac FF v 30. See bug discussions below:-

  3. hank said on February 14, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Anybody? “view selection source” always crashes Mac Firefox; apparently it’s only me?

    1. PJ said on February 15, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      @hank — Click on the relevant reports at your Firefox’s about:crashes. What does it say at “Process Type”, “Crash Reason” & “Crashing Thread” (very bottom of report) ?

      For the below user experiencing similar “View Selection Source” crashes, the cause appears to be a conflict with the Quicktime plugin:

      I suppose Quicktime comes pre-installed in your Mac ? Does disabling the QT plugin in Firefox prevent “View Selection Source” crashes ?

  4. hank said on February 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    “View Selection Source” has been crashing (even in safe mode) for the last few versions of FF including the most recent one; is that a known problem for anyone else? Not finding it mentioned recently tho’ much ado about it in 2012.

  5. Opera-Safari-Chrome said on January 14, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    I have been a Firefox user since day one, but I have been having so much trouble with FireFox latest and Greatest that I have now quit using Firefox altogether. This once great browser is now a “Has Been” for now. Lock ups, slowness, incompatible with facebook features sometimes. Just plain so annoying. I thought it was my computer. NOPE- I now use Opera– so much faster and cleaner.. and two others sometimes. So far all my problems are GONE! Good BYE FIREFOX!!

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on January 14, 2015 at 9:59 pm

      “incompatible with facebook features sometimes” – for example?

  6. Neil from Ohio said on January 11, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    I was a Firefox fan for years–ever since it was Phoenix 0.3!

    But as it grew uglier, and became just a very bad imitation of Chrome, I looked for something better.

    Have a look at Pale Moon.

  7. alex said on January 5, 2015 at 7:59 am

    I found out removing history is missing from “privacy” in “options”. seriously ? I found where it is and have no idea why they made it so damn hard ! it really sucks.

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on January 5, 2015 at 10:18 am

      Nope. Please run Firefox in safe mode and check again.

      1. Sören Hentzschel said on January 11, 2015 at 11:12 am

        Sorry, but it’s a fact that no option was removed from the privacy preferences. So please check again in Firefox safe mode. Is it so difficult? *rolleyes*

        Sometimes one facepalm is not enough…

      2. F. Dotzler said on January 11, 2015 at 3:44 am

        Quote “Nope” – how careless. I mean you seem like a firefox fanboi to me. YOU seem to be the troll. You troll this thread just to contradict experienced users and non-firefox-fanboi developers who post VALID industry-related statements and descriptions in this thread and elsewhere. You do not understand one single thing about Scientific Method. You do not believe in free speech, you are actually trying to silence firefox criticism of any kind. What are you 26? Are you Dotzler’s brother-in-law or cousin or something?

        The single most important aspect of Scientific Method is to not only allow criticism, but to listen to criticism carefully and sincerely. Show me where you simply reply in a sincere manner toward criticism. In the real non-entertainment software world, it is bottom line just unsafe to not listen to criticism. The consequence for Mozilla not listening is their browser market share is in the dirt. Oh, I suppose next we’re going to hear from you some comment like “go write your own browser.” That’s all you seem to do is fire-off impolite, abstract comments.

        I was going to type all this in ALL CAPS but I re-typed and rearranged my whole post instead. There is a serious lack of self-discipline in the current entertainment-class software industry. It’s all some popularity contest now and change-for-no-reason every three months. Hentzschel you are so repeatedly rude to others in this thread that if someone were to confront you and flame you in an angry fashion it would be justified.

        This post is made here on behalf of all the others who have tried to make valid statements in this thread. Mozilla, like the other entertainment-class software outfits, is all about change-for-no-reason and some popularity contest now instead of strict software quality thresholds. There is a point when technology moves too fast and it does not benefit users at that point. Instead it creates annoying time-wasting re-learning curves, privacy and security risks. Slower means careful. Careful means quality. Hentzschel’s arrogance and Mozilla’s arrogance is just continuing to offend the most experienced end-users and I.T. professionals, who have the capability to either recommend, or DENY Mozilla products to thousands of other users. It didn’t take me long to type all this, and I could type-up ten more pages easily on this entire subject. Thanks to ghacks and under-the-hood code that allows forum post editing.

  8. eadthem said on January 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    firefox 34.0.5 on openSuSE is utterly broken.

    New tab page no longer works or loads anything.
    Session restore is broken and wont ever restore a session.
    Default search changed to yahoo( Ok if you want to change that on a new install fine, but you cant just change a users settings that has had there profile sense Netscape 4.0)

    So ya rushed to put it mildly.

    Rolled back to firefox 33, all problems fixed.

  9. tekwyzrd said on December 30, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    I’ll be blunt: firefox 34.0 and 34.0.1 on android are the worst releases I’ve ever used. Flash is unreliable and often results in a black or gray box with no player on embedded videos or sound but no video. Add to this the fact that switching to another tab and back causes a previous page to be loaded. There’s also a problem with open tabs on exit and re-start. When firefox re-starts the first page opened in a tab is loaded, not the one open on exit. For example, if I open a page to watch an episode of an anime series and watch episodes 1,2,3, and 4 then exit with episode 5 loaded when firefox is re-started it loads episode 1 and not episode 5 as I expect it to.

  10. Ml said on December 30, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Many times my tabs won’t close.

    This is getting really buggy.
    Also, the site seems to have more “hang time” issues.

  11. chesscanoe said on December 23, 2014 at 11:57 pm

    I’m still happily running Fx 34.0 on Win7 x64 Home, with lots of Add-ons. I wonder if anyone with problems has tried Help – Restart with Add-ons Disabled to isolate the problems.

  12. Josh said on December 23, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    This is by far the worst Firefox update to date 34.0.5. It is constantly stalling, freezing, telling me it’s not responding, and having constant script error messages. It’s like I am trying to run it on a 286 computer or something. Didn’t have any of these issues on previous version. I have to actually use Chrome now. Grade = F.

    1. Opera-Safari-Chrome said on January 14, 2015 at 8:02 pm

      YEP– It has become utter TRASH, I used to promote it to my friends, now I tell them STAY CLEAR!

    2. John said on December 23, 2014 at 10:15 pm

      EXACTLY! Same issue here for me Josh. I was beginning to think it was my machine. I am using another browser now, Had to give up on “SlowFox”

  13. Myles said on December 22, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    34.0.5 fixes the search engine thing, but quite honestly, i cannot see why anyone uses firefox any more. I stopped 2 years ago when i realised when a badly written buggy piece of rubbish it is, i only use it because it is the closest thing to IE without being ie that i have and i hate it.

    it so much potential in version 1, then google came on the scene and makes a far better browser.

    1. John said on December 23, 2014 at 10:22 pm

      34.05 is not fixed! It is is buggy, crashes, and is slow and it slows down my machine just being open even when I am not using it. Once a big fan of Firefox, now I hate it!

    2. John said on December 23, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      ” then google came on the scene and makes a far better browser.”

      If you don’t care about privacy maybe

      ” I stopped 2 years ago when i realised when a badly written buggy piece of rubbish it is,”

      .FF really sucks right now I agree but Thats a bit extreme

    3. mr.burns said on December 22, 2014 at 3:28 pm

      “i cannot see why anyone uses firefox any more”, “when i realised when a badly written buggy piece of rubbish it is”

      That must be a joke.

  14. David said on December 22, 2014 at 3:06 am

    There are so many issues with the new firefox I don’t know where to begin. I am not opposed to change but they are fixing things that ain’t broke and breaking them in the process. I have had to to force it to close daily several times. Although I am currently using FF to write this, I now use Safari, and Opera for the most part, FF crashes, locks up, the new search sucks. They need to quit dinking with things that were fine.

    My favorite plugins all disabled and I still have problems, Flash Bock broke, Norton ID safe does not work with it. So many things….

    It has gotten to be slower than IE. Fed up and hoping for a better release, until then. Good Bye FF.

    Thanks to all the volunteers but you really need to do more testing before you release this stuff.

  15. Sören Hentzschel said on December 18, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    “Probably the biggest issues from a user point of view are that you cannot reorder or remove search engines, or set or modify search keywords”

    It’s all possible in the latest Nightly and will be uplifted to Firefox 35 Beta in the next days.

  16. Bogdan said on December 16, 2014 at 1:51 am

    The thing that’s annoying is that ..
    Whenever I try to delete something by right clicking in the search bar the bar loads up suggestions and covers the delete-copy-paste page..
    It’s really frustrating

  17. F. Dotzler said on December 15, 2014 at 3:00 am

    What’s firefox up to now, version 89? Just kidding soon we’ll be able to put the decimal point back in. Version 8.9 instead of 89. “Rapid Release” is the opposite of Hold For Further Testing and it’s the opposite of being careful with software. Entertainment-class. They would never make it in the hardware life cycle world, or in any mission critical i.e. life support, military, etc. industries.

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 15, 2014 at 10:33 am

      So what? It’s a number, not more.

      The rapid release model is important, it’s not enough to release only one update per year for the average user. And there is Firefox ESR with only one major update per year.

      1. Sören Hentzschel said on January 13, 2015 at 10:35 am

        “Mozilla’s problem is setting a release deadline they must meet whether the product is ready or not.”

        That’s not true. The product has “deadlines” (in quotation marks because Mozillas delayed the release of at least three versions since rapid release), but not the features, that’s an important difference. A feature which is not ready for release will not be released in the next version. And backouts of feature are always an option in Aurora and Beta.

        “The new search is a great example. It was more important that they release it and grab yahoo money than it was for the search feature to still work.”

        I don’t see the relation between Yahoo! as default search engine provider and a new search bar, two independent changes. Or why do you think that Mozilla would need a different search bar to change the default search engine?

      2. Faye Kane ♀ girl brain said on January 13, 2015 at 1:26 am

        > it’s not enough to release only one update per year.

        Yes, Sören, I agree with you. But the releases have to improve the product and be well-tested. Mozilla’s problem is setting a release deadline they must meet whether the product is ready or not. The new search is a great example. It was more important that they release it and grab yahoo money than it was for the search feature to still work. There is no excuse for that.

        Release date—particularly for freeware—should be a target date, not a drop-dead date.


  18. emoze said on December 12, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    34.0.5 – bookmarking is goofed up

    – can no longer choose a folder to place a bookmark into; now have to save all into “unsorted”

    the last 5 folders i used before the update are stuck in place

  19. Martin said on December 12, 2014 at 3:14 am

    “Good news is, you can turn it off. Simple set to false and you have the old bar back.”

    Hi – could you explain where/how to do this?
    I have no idea where the option is located.

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on December 12, 2014 at 8:57 am

      Type about:config in the address bar, search for it there.

      1. Michel said on December 14, 2014 at 12:07 am

        Can you please add in your article that you need to restart the browser in order to activate the old search bar.

        The problem is that it behaves in a confusing manner. When you set it, without restarting, the search bar stops rolling out all the weird stuff. I thought that, that was it. Also is unusual for stuff in about:config to require a restart. I had alredy read about the about:config option elsewhere, but i though it was just to deactivate the roll down menu.

        also, it’s probably a good idea to explain in detail how to use the about:config for the less experienced user, like the user in this post.

      2. Martin said on December 12, 2014 at 7:40 pm

        I found
        It’s already set to False.
        And I don’t see any option to change it anyway.

      3. Martin Brinkmann said on December 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm

        You double-click it to change it. You need to restart the browser after making changes.

  20. chesscanoe said on December 11, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    This is exactly the way I want Fx to work re SSL. It’s not worth it to me to see a site like if they are behind in upgrading their security. However, the referenced link does work in IE11 (Win7x64 SP1) Which also is set to reject SSL, so maybe it is a Fx 34.0 bug.

    1. chesscanoe said on December 11, 2014 at 10:38 pm

      The URL I referenced just above works if SSL is disabled but TLS 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 enabled lets me see the sit in IE11 under Win7x64 SP1 Home. If I only enable TLS 1.2, the site fails as it should IMHO.

      1. chesscanoe said on December 12, 2014 at 2:22 am

        Apparently Microsoft IE11 must have TLS 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 checked in order to run TLS1.2 – by design. For example, if you want TLS 1.1 to work, you must also check TLS 1.0 . I infer this info, but have not tested all variations.
        Another aside: Fx 34.0 continues to run successfully, but IE11 after Patch Tuesday will not unless you run IE11 as an administrator and install the active-X control presented, and then list the the URL as Trusted.

  21. Debbie said on December 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    I do not like the blocking of sites using a security protocol that Firefox does not like and not getting the option of adding an exception. Looks like I will have to go back to Internet Explorer since it is blocking a key website that I use in business. Getting the hideous message…
    Unable to Connect Securely

    Firefox cannot guarantee the safety of your data on because it uses SSLv3, a broken security protocol.
    Advanced info: ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap

    You click for more information and it says to contact the website and have them redo their security protocol. Nothing that allows you to override the feature.

  22. matt said on December 11, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Not sure if anyone else had this problem. When flashblock stopped working so did netflix. Simply removing it fixed that.

  23. Geoff said on December 8, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Is there a Firefox extension similar to the new Chrome feature where you can mute the sound of a site by just clicking on a little speaker icon on each tab that is currently playing sound? Firefox needs to add that feature! On Chrome: Load chrome://flags/#enable-tab-audio-muting in Chrome’s address bar and hit enter. Here you should find the Enable tab audio muting UI control right away as the loading should jump to the flag right away. It reads:”When enabled, the audio indicators in the tab strip double as tab audio mute controls. This also adds commands in the tab context menu for quickly muting multiple selected tabs”. Hit enable underneath it and restart the browser. The feature is now active so that you can mute any audio playing from any tab in the browser with just a single-click on the audio indicator in that tab. Also, when is Firefox coming out with a new version with the download speed finally add to the downloads menu? I thought I heard that was coming awhile ago. Thanks!

  24. alivenkickin said on December 8, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    After installing v34, Flash and an html5 audio plugin, simply stopped working.

    reverted to v33.1.1 and everything is back to normal.

  25. Connoly said on December 7, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    Meanwhile on Android, no pages load in Firefox at all. At least it stopped wiping my bookmarks every few months, but maybe that’s because I stopped using it regularly. Oh and clearing my downloads list erased 1000+ files off my disk – seriously WTF!

  26. chesscanoe said on December 5, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    I don’t see “Hello” in Fx34.0 under Win7x64 Home. Per
    you have to run the beta version to test the “Hello” function.

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on December 5, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      No Hello is integrated in Fx34 but it is rolled out gradually.

  27. Mikkle said on December 5, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Cheers for the chrome://browser/content/search/engineManager.xul tip!

  28. Mike said on December 5, 2014 at 12:24 am

    Since upgrading my Mac to FF34 text boxes have either disappeared, or become disabled (Hotmail & Google). Was able to duplicate this issue on a second Mac I use. Definitely FF34 was RUSHED!

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 5, 2014 at 11:11 am

      I can’t confirm on my Mac and not on any of the Macs in the office. Please test in Firefox Safe Mode.

  29. Gxxx said on December 4, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    Sh******t – that what this new firefox 34 is. I start looking for simpler and faster alternatives because I’m fed up with this clunky monster they have created.

    1. Faye Kane ♀ girl brain said on January 13, 2015 at 1:14 am

      Yeah, but they couldn’t possibly care less.

  30. PJ said on December 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    FF 33.1.1 has 3 nos. known outstanding issues (related to OMTC & GPU drivers/ dual GPU combination) that first arose in FF 33.0 & have been “Unfixed” since then:-

    1) PDF.js: With some images, wrong colors could show up. Affects a very small number of PDF
    2) Windows: Interface may be slow when typing or selecting text (1089183)
    3) Windows: On some combination of hardware and drivers, some flickering can happen

    I happen to be one of numerous users (severely) affected by at least one of the issues extant since FF 33.0. However, these 3 issues do not appear anywhere in the release notes of both FF 34.0 & 34.0.5. In other words, the issues simply “disappeared” — they are not listed in the “Fixed” section.

    Does it mean that the aforementioned issues have been resolved, but accidentally omitted from the release notes ? Or has Mozilla quietly abandoned trying to resolve the outstanding issues ? Can any affected user who has managed to successfully update to FF 34.0 or 34.0.5 throw some light ?

    I’m been repeatedly encountering the “Restart to update” loop-error, & am holding out against a manual update for now. I had to reinstall FF 32.0.3 from scratch the last time & redo all my settings, because FF 33.0 turned out to be unusable in my situation, & the rolled-back FF 32.0.3 could not even start at all after Windows Restore. (The latter is due to a known FF bug related to WIndow Restore.)

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 4, 2014 at 2:04 pm

      These issues should be fixes, yes. For example the pdf issue is Bugzilla ticket #1072164, fixed in Firefox 34. They are not accidentally omitted, there are hundreds of bugfixes in each release, Mozilla can not list every bugfix in the release notes. ;)

      1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 4, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        You can disable OMTC via about:config. If you don’t want to use Firefox 34 you should use Firefox ESR 31.x because of unfixed security vulnerabilities in old versions. ;)

      2. PJ said on December 4, 2014 at 3:43 pm

        @ Sören Hentzschel — Thanks for the update about issue 1 (bug #1072164: wrong PDF colors). Indeed, checking the ticket page shows its status as “VERIFIED FIXED”. Good news for the “very small number of” [quoting Mozilla] affected users.

        Since the published major bugs as of FF 33.1.1 stand at just 3 nos., I reckon it shouldn’t be a huge chore to indicate the fixed ones as “Resolved” in the new release notes, either on the landing page or in the “complete list of changes”. Afterall, Mozilla had been repeatedly highlighting the same set of multiple resolved & outstanding bug descriptions on the landing page itself from release to release.

        I’m not sure what the ticket number is for issue 3 (flickering), so I can’t check its current status.

        However, checking the main ticket page for issue 2 (bug #1089183: UI lag due to HWA/ OMTC conflict with certain GPU combinations ala “Enabling OMTC slows down the entire browser”), its status is still stated as “REOPENED; Workaround (not recommended)”. In my case, this is the sole issue that rendered FF unusable from v33.0 (released in mid-Oct 2014) onwards. There had been zero updates about this issue at Mozilla & non-Mozilla public discussion pages since weeks ago, so I’ve been relying on the release notes to see if it has been solved or not.

        Well, this confirms that it is not feasible for me to update to FF 34.0 or 34.0.5. By now, I think some similarly-affected FF users — apparently not a small number (as based on the feedback observed) — might have switched to other browsers in despair after being bugged through the multiple incremental 33.x.x versions.

  31. interstellar said on December 4, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Firefox was auto-updated to v. 34
    in my ANDROID Samsung Galaxy 3 Tablet.

    After that, the VERY useful
    “Scroll to Top” addon v1.1 (latest available),
    stopped working completely.

    The addon’s up-arrow icon
    does not even show up on the screen anymore!

    “Scroll to Top” addon links:

    1. Pippi said on January 11, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Works just fine for me on the very same tablet.
      Perhaps it’s your device that is the issue?

  32. Dean said on December 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    I agree, FFv33 and FFv34 have and are both rushed and buggy.
    For me the new search feature and the chat functionality are both missing.
    I’ve not used the English UK language pack, rather downloaded and installed the windows en_gb variant and quite happy with Mark Tyndall’s English Dictionary.

    However, since FF33, I have noted that :-
    At times the right click menu won’t operate (no it is not a web site that blocks it’s use) Opening a new tab doesn’t help.
    At times the close button on a tab won’t work, but the context menu *may* work
    At times the tab context menu opens, but the close tab option doesn’t work
    At times you can close a tab, but FF will be kept present in the tab list, you can select it and it still and view the content, although clicking a link in that page causes FF to crash immediately
    At times the New tab button doesn’t work

    Generally a restart of FF means the above lack of functionality is resumed, whilst FF “”helpfully”” retains your closed tabs!
    Thus helped prove that the crash caused by clicking a link in a retained but closed page is directly related to the failure to close a tab properly.

    TBH, surprised that Mozilla has released such buggy versions of FF, especially, when basic functionality is broken.

  33. arminus said on December 3, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    I had 9 crashes in the last 2 days since I upgraded to FF 34, all with the same signature: Signature: AddClassInfo – if I interpret skunk_classifier: reject – not a plugin hang correctly, not caused by a plugin.

    I’m back on 33 since a couple of hours, no more crashes…

  34. JohnF said on December 3, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    I noticed some of my RSS Live Bookmarks stopped working with 34.0.5, until I deleted the bookmark and re-added it via the original page. Not sure why that helped. Some other Live Bookmarks worked fine without needing refreshing.

  35. Martin said on December 3, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    New Search Bar change is bad. I’ve got 35+ search engines in my list. Can’t work out what most of them are.
    These addons save me a huge amount of time and effort. More than any other.
    –Add to Search Bar (adds any pages search box to FF search box)
    –Context Search (Expands the context menu’s ‘Search for’ item into a list of installed search engines, allowing you to choose a specific search engine every time for any highlighted text.)

    I also create search plugings using
    Often using google “site:” with above link.

    1. Thank you said on December 3, 2014 at 6:12 pm

      Thank you for the ‘ready2search’ details.

  36. Lessnikk said on December 3, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Seamonkey. No Australis, No Mozilla stupidity, pure browser enjoyment :)

    If i would want to use a browser which defines it’s success and releavance over user numbers and beginner users friendly limited/not existing customization features to attract the userbase of a competition product (Google Chrome) – i already would use Chrome!

    And not to forget about Brendan Eich – Mozilla had no spine to protect and stand up for Eich! He was the best man for this job and had incredible knowledge! Mozilla should be ashamed!

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      “No Mozilla stupidity” – SeaMonkey is a Mozilla Gecko based product…

      “And not to forget about Brendan Eich – Mozilla had no spine to protect and stand up for Eich” – that’s not true… Mozilla wanted to work with Eich, Eich left Mozilla because of the shitstorm outside of Mozilla…

      1. Lessnikk said on December 3, 2014 at 4:34 pm

        I do not want to use a browser which constantly forces the users to replace removed functions with add-ons or constantly forces users to relearn their workflow thanks to stupid changes. If something is NOT broke – DON’T FIX IT!

        I am Conservative and want to use Conservative Software – We Conservatives want stability, reliability and honesty – All of these 3 Mozilla has kicked off board. And we Conservatives will not use a browser which Mother organization is against Conservatives and bows down to heterosexual discriminating lobbies! Mozilla gives no fairness and apology to Brendan Eich, so we refuse doing towards Mozilla!

        Seamonkey is most of the time not influenced from the short sightness of Mozilla’s developers. Mozilla does NOT own Seamonkey. It is owned by the Seamonkey council – which has at best good contacts to Mozilla and is allowed to use Mozilla infrastructure!

        Btw. Australis is clearly influenced by Google Chrome – so is Opera’s browser. That is no originality, this is copycat crap!

      2. Sören Hentzschel said on December 3, 2014 at 4:21 pm

        I will ignore the first part because it’s off topic. The second part can be summarized that you don’t have arguments against Firefox. You can change almost everything in Firefox. It’s only a matter of will.

      3. Lessnikk said on December 3, 2014 at 4:00 pm

        Whatever. American Conservatives have shown Obama where his place is, so it will with Mozilla, so will Conservatives in the world show you Liberals and the non heterosexuals where your place is. Nothing left to add.

        And i repeat myself again – Still, No Australis in Seamonkey, no add-ons necessary for adding again customization features = Superior over Firefox! I despise this Mozilla simplification for getting Chrome users. This is stupidity. Australis is and will always be there no matter how many themes and add-ons you add to the browser, it will add bloat to a bloat browser!

      4. Sören Hentzschel said on December 3, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        “Seamonkey is superior compared to Firefox” – that’s not possible, SeaMonkey will always lag behind Firefox. Almost all of the features of SeaMonkey are features of Firefox developed by Mozilla. A few changes are necessary for SeaMonkey, but the real work is done by Mozilla.

        Australis? There are a lot of themes for Firefox, just install with a few clicks. Sponsored tiles? Only new users see the sponsored tiles and you can disable the tiles. New search bar crap? You can switch to the old search bar.

        “i know you do not want to hear it, but racism against conservatives is and stays racism.” – Please don’t say “I know you do not want to hear it” because you don’t know what I want to hear and what I don’t want to hear…

        “Mozilla was NOT innocent in that development! And that DOES suck!” – I could not more disagree with you.

      5. Lessnikk said on December 3, 2014 at 3:23 pm

        Still.. It has no australis, no sponsored tiles, no new search bar crap – Seamonkey is superior compared to Firefox.

        I am since 15 years working as a programmer and webdesigner and let me tell you something, these days i would rather recommend Seamonkey to users which is so more true to Firefox roots as compared to that lobby depending bloated browser which Mozilla dares to call Firefox.

        Yeah… Sure… There has been also hospitality in Mozilla against Eich… This only happened because liberals took over!

        Mr. Hentzschel, i know you do not want to hear it, but racism against conservatives is and stays racism. Mozilla was NOT innocent in that development! And that DOES suck!

  37. Ray said on December 3, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Wow. That is a lot of comments about hating features in Firefox. If you do not like the “hello” feature or find Mozilla arrogant, well you can use Chrome (and sell your soul to Google on the way ;) )

    1. Krinj said on December 11, 2014 at 6:20 am

      “…you can use Chrome (and sell your soul to Google on the way…”

      Drama queen.

  38. Chains The Bounty Hunter said on December 3, 2014 at 10:31 am

    I’ve been unable to get my add-ons updater to actually finish the “updating” process. I’m not sure if it’s an issue on my end or Firefox’s, however. I’m dreading disabling add-ons one by one just to find out which is causing the issue though.

    1. Faye Kane ♀ girl brain said on January 13, 2015 at 1:05 am

      Then don’t disable them one by one; use a binary search. Disable half, and depending on whether the problem still exists, disable half of either that group or the other.

      You’ll find the bad one of N add-ons in log2 (N) tries. This means only 6 tries for 64 add-ons to guarantee finding the problem (as opposed to 32 tries for only a 50% chance that you’ll find it).

  39. anonymous said on December 3, 2014 at 7:59 am

    Has anyone got Firefox Hello working? I have the button but when I tested it, it would not work.

  40. infogain said on December 3, 2014 at 6:12 am

    thanks martin, u rocks

  41. v0n_7hi22l3 said on December 3, 2014 at 4:23 am

    Martin, I noticed on Mozilla’s FTP site that there are no checksums (MD5, SHA1 or SHA512) for the 34.0 release.
    However, the 34.0.5 release has them. Looking at the time stamps for when they were published, 34.0.5 hit the server about an hour earlier. Which is the “final release”? Did Mozilla get lazy and forget to publish the checksums for 34.0? Strange.

  42. fokka said on December 3, 2014 at 12:43 am

    martin, on the frontpage above the headline of this firefox article, there is a big firefox screenshot. i don’t think it belongs there. ;)

    1. fokka said on December 3, 2014 at 12:44 am

      ok, it was only there when browsing in private mode. it seems ff34 was rushed after all :)

      1. Martin Brinkmann said on December 3, 2014 at 8:23 am

        Hm I don’t see that. Can you clear your cache and check again?

  43. mike1354 said on December 3, 2014 at 12:28 am

    Thank you Chrome!

  44. chris said on December 2, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    Organize Search Engines addon is incompatible with Firefox 34.
    It hides the search bar & breaks the Context Search addon.
    So I had to disable it. Without OSE, my context search menu item is a mess :/

    Unfortunately, it looks like its author has removed it from AMO:

    Not sure when that was done. Based on the google search cache, the addon was still there on Nov 29.

  45. Ray said on December 2, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Concerning the search bar, I don’t use it so the changes in FF 34 does not affect me one bit :)

    Use Foobar 2.0.1 instead (there’s a bug in 2.1 that affects keyword searches). You get the best features of the search bar as an icon in the urlbar and you can easily toggle search engines and manage them on-the-fly.

  46. Geoff said on December 2, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    I can’t get one of my extensions to work with Firefox 35 Beta 1. Is there a way to get it working, or am I going to have to go back to 34.05? I tried to disable it, then re-enable it, but that didn’t work. That had worked in the past upon upgrading Firefox. The only thing I haven’t tried is un-installing it and re-installing it, but I have a feeling that won’t work. I think Mozilla changed something, which is stopping it from working. Can anyone get this extension to work? I don’t know why Mozilla can’t just build that into Firefox, or take over the dead extension. This extension is very important, cause I use it to manage my tab groups. On the plus side: It does run faster and has smoother scrolling without it, but I like being able to switch my tab groups quickly from the toolbar. Let me know if you get it working somehow. Can someone hack the .xpi file or something? TabGroups Menu-https://addons.mozil…tabgroups-menu/

    1. Anonymous said on December 4, 2014 at 8:59 pm

      Nearly all of my extension stopped working in 35 (even adblock)

      1. Anonymous said on December 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm

        I use FEBE now. But where is the point? If I restore profile after reset then all be the same (the bug will be back).

      2. Sören Hentzschel said on December 6, 2014 at 9:31 pm

        You could use a backup tool like Firesave or MozBackup. ;)

      3. Anonymous said on December 6, 2014 at 8:39 pm

        Heh :) How to do this without loosing over 50 carefully configured extensions ;P

      4. Sören Hentzschel said on December 6, 2014 at 1:42 pm

        Your Firefox profile could be broken, you should reset the profile via about:support.

      5. Anonymous said on December 5, 2014 at 5:45 pm

        @Sören Hentzschel: Yes, but Firefox 35 refuse to update extensions – says that file (or profile) is locked…
        I was using betas for almost two years – now I go to stable because of this.

      6. Sören Hentzschel said on December 4, 2014 at 9:31 pm

        Adblock works even in Firefox 37 Nightly. As user of pre release builds of Firefox you should use the dev builds of Adblock.

    2. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 11:17 pm

      TabGroups Menu 0.9.1 ( is rather old for an add-on (Released May 16, 2012) but is stated to works with Firefox 10.0 and later.

      I’ve updated the install.rdf file maxVer to *.*
      You can download it here (valid 30 days) :

      But if the add-on worked on Firefox 34 and no longer with 35 I doubt this will be successful …

  47. Di said on December 2, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    Ever since this new update of FF came out yesterday, my flash player crashes and I have to use another browser. This is infuriating!! And yes, I have the latest Adobe player installed.

  48. Schmidt said on December 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    “Mozilla _knows_ better than you or I what is better for hundreds of millions of Firefox users because they do market research, user studies et cetera.”
    And that is why their market share keeps dropping and dropping:
    Great studies, must be payed by… uhm… oh, wait, there was something…

    (And please, no discussion about the absolute values, it doesn’t matter whether the drop is 25% or just 10%, fact is that it is dropping notably over the past couple of months/years.)

    1. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 8:09 pm

      I don’t see the correlation between market research, user studies et cetera and market share. Mozilla is not Google, there ist no “Mozilla Search”, no “Mozilla Drive”, no other Mozilla services with high market share where Mozilla can advertise Firefox like Google does.

      1. mark said on December 5, 2014 at 2:40 pm

        surely market research will only be based on a sample, unless they ask every single Firefox user, how can they claim to know ‘what is best’ for users. I’ve seen it mentioned so many times recently (Flickr anybody….) make things configurable – let people choose how they want it; nothing worse than being told you have to do something a certain way, or be given no choice.

  49. gem said on December 2, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    I was using Flashblock for quite a while but somewhere along the way it started to become buggy and unresponsive sometimes.
    So i did the simplest thing. Uninstalled it and from the Add-ons Manager i went to plugins and set the Shockwave Flash plugin to “Ask to Active”. Hmmm…. i wish i had done that sooner….

    1. John said on December 2, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      Well done! Until last year I used it too, but nowadays Firefox doesn’t need an addon to block Flash. I don’t understand why so many people (almost a million!) still run FlashBlock.

      1. Anonymous said on December 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm

        The beauty of Flashblock for me is that I can manage a whitelist: with Firefox I cannot see in one place the settings that I have applied, and have to put up with pop-up prompts for every site that uses Flash.

      2. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 9:43 pm

        I was thinking as you. I’ve stopped using Flashblock when it appeared to run incorrectly on latest Firefox versions.
        Much easier to set the Flash plug-in to “Ask to activate” and allow permissions on a per-site basis :

        user_pref(“plugins.click_to_play”, true); // Default = true
        user_pref(“plugin.sessionPermissionNow.intervalInMinutes”, 0); // Default = 60
        user_pref(“plugin.persistentPermissionAlways.intervalInDays”, 999); // Default = 90

        Together with the Hide Plugin Notifications add-on ( ) and you’re done. Even allow the user to enable a video once on a site without allowing it twice on that same site (plugin.sessionPermissionNow.intervalInMinutes set to 0)

        No problem, no fuss.

      3. Pants said on December 2, 2014 at 9:31 pm

        +1 … indeed

  50. insanelyapple said on December 2, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Funny. I just updated to 34.0 and there’s no new search UI.

    1. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      I believe some new stuff was reserved for US Edition first… not quite sure i got that story correctly.

      1. Eep² said on December 4, 2014 at 12:55 pm

        Funny considering I’m using the US edition and, instead of a new search UI, I get a reduced-functionality old search UI. No more pull-down search engine option.

      2. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 4:58 pm

        I have 29 search engines on Firefox 34.0.5 US Edition and new search box is of the lot. Must be your foreign edition.

        By the way, new search is easier on the eye/catch with many search engines. 4 in a row avoids scrolling.

      3. insanelyapple said on December 2, 2014 at 4:01 pm

        I’m playing with Polish Fx with pl-PL language pack. Or maybe it’s because I’m using over 20 search engines…

  51. kalmly said on December 2, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Having enough trouble with 33.1.1. Certainly not ready to deal with the newer version.

    Oh, how I miss Opera.

    1. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 3:32 pm

      That reminds me a chapter of my life several years ago which included two ladies. LOL
      You’ll get used to Firefox, be it Australis & post-Australis, it’s just a matter of time. believe me. LOL. I got to really love Firefox.

  52. Nickname said on December 2, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Why did they even add the new search feature in the final week of 34 Beta? Mozilla has become so bad nowadays.

  53. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Concerning the new Search bar, the option provided here, to open chrome://browser/content/search/engineManager.xul is most valuable. Thanks.

    The concept of this new Search bar — providing an update to Firefox 34 (0.5) will soon be provided — seems to me not bad, I mean it has sens. I hesitated to set it off with the about:config set to false because it does have advantages. Still, I did remove it because of its incompatibility with two add-ons which, once used, bring more advantages to the “old” Search bar, IMO. These add-ons are ResetSearchbar and Search Site. The first one, ResetSearchbar, is not trully an advantage when its pertinence fails with the new Search bar, but Search Site is IMO an everyday tool I’d miss.

    As for the update bazaar (34.0, 34.05?) as I do not install the automatic update feature when installing Firefox (neither do I with Thunderbird), but prefer to quickly uninstall the browser (which does of course not remove the user’s profile) and install cleanly the new version, I downloaded Firefox 34.0.5 US and avoided internal update approximations.

  54. John said on December 2, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    “Firefox Hello”? Why isn’t that a first party, installed-by-default add-on? Why is Firefox so full of rubbish? The whole point of Firefox is lightweight and extendable. I hate Mozilla Corp. They’re relentlessly dumbing down and bloating up the greatest browser there’s ever been.

    1. InterestedBystander said on December 2, 2014 at 3:44 pm

      Palemoon for you, perhaps, John?

      1. Anon said on December 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        ALL CAPS is shouting and is very rude IMHO.
        It’s PaleMoon not PALEMOON.
        PaleMoon keeps on crashing and is very unstable.
        Firefox works beautifully for me.

      2. Pippi said on December 6, 2014 at 7:33 pm

        PaleMoon has crashed quite a few times on my computer and I don’t trust it to do online banking.
        I like Firefox and it’s performed great for me!

      3. bat758 said on December 6, 2014 at 7:31 pm

        PaleMoon uses outdated code and it’s also based of Firefox 24.
        I’d go with SeaMonkey or Cyberfox.
        Also, haven’t had any issues myself with the current Firefox.
        Looks good ! :)

      4. interstellar said on December 2, 2014 at 5:41 pm

        I have to admit…I went back
        to the fast and stable PALEMOON browser, (version 25.1.0).

        ALL my 53 beloved FIREFOX addons
        work perfectly in PALEMOON 25.1.0!
        (to my astonishment…).

        Here is my list of addons,
        in case it helps other Ghackers
        thinking about using PALEMOON:
        (I use both, PM 95% of the time
        and FF sometimes).

        Total number of items: 53

        – abcTajpu “a b c type-oo” 1.8.5
        a` b\ c^ -> à β ĉ (
        – Add to Search Bar 2.5-pm
        Add any search on any page to the Search Bar.
        – All-in-One Sidebar 0.7.20
        Sidebar control with award-winning user experience!
        – Bluhell Firewall 2.5.0
        Lightweight Ad-Blocker and Tracking/Privacy Protector.
        – Clearly
        Clearly makes blog posts, articles and webpages clean and easy to read. Save them to Evernote to read anywhere.
        – Clippings 4.1.1
        Save frequently-entered text for pasting later.
        – Copy Plain Text 2 1.3.2
        Copies text without formatting.
        – Disconnect 3.14.0
        Make the web faster, more private, and more secure.
        – Extension List Dumper 1.15.2
        Dumps a list of the installed extensions.
        – FaviconizeTab 1.0.6
        The width of the specified tab becomes small up to the size of favicon.
        – FEBE 8.0.5
        Backup your Firefox data
        – FindList 1.7
        Extention that enhance the find feature
        – FireGestures 1.8.7
        Executes various commands with mouse gestures.
        – Flagfox 5.0.9
        Displays a flag depicting the location of the current server
        – Free Memory 0.95
        An add-on to perform Free memory operations without visiting about:memory.
        – lite 1.8.1
        Simple extension to let you use, Google’s URL shortener, without installing their toolbar. Clicking the button will generate a URL and copy it to your clipboard. Convenient right-click menu entries are also provided.
        – Google search link fix 1.4.9
        Prevents Google, Yahoo and Yandex search pages from modifying search result links when you click them. This is useful when copying links but it also helps privacy by preventing the search engines from recording your clicks.
        – Grab and Drag
        Enables Adobe Acrobat-style grab and drag scrolling in Firefox.
        – ImageBlock 2.1
        – JSView 2.0.8
        View the source code of external stylesheets and javascripts.
        – LastPass 3.1.1
        Last Password you will ever need
        – Locationbar² 1.0.6
        Formats and linkifies addresses in your Location bar.
        – Markdown Here 2.11.3 (Disabled)
        Write your email in Markdown, then make it pretty.
        – Modify Headers
        Add, modify and filter HTTP request headers
        – NewScrollbars (aka NoiaScrollbars) 1.2.1
        Add seven different scrollbar-colors and two different scrollbar backgrounds to your Firefox appearance.
        – NoScript
        Extra protection for your Firefox: NoScript allows JavaScript, Java (and other plugins) only for trusted domains of your choice (e.g. your home-banking web site). This whitelist based pre-emptive blocking approach prevents exploitation of security vulnerabilities (known and even unknown!) with no loss of functionality… Experts will agree: Firefox is really safer with NoScript :-)
        – NoSquint 2.1.9
        Manage site-specific zoom levels and color settings
        – Print pages to PDF
        Creates PDF from Tabs,Bookmarks, Scrapbook(Plus)
        – Private Tab
        Adds private tabs
        – Quick Translator (Pseudo-Static) 1.0-pm
        The most lightweight and easiest translator. Translate between more than 50 languages with one click or a hot key. Translate from one word to a whole page.
        – RefControl 0.8.16
        Control what gets sent as the HTTP Referer on a per-site basis.
        – Reload Tab On Double-Click 1.2.1
        Reload tab when double-clicking on tab (skip cache with SHIFT key).
        – Save Text To File 2.4.3
        Saves highlighted text to a file in a specified directory
        – Scientific Calculator 5.3.2
        A full-featured scientific calculator which can be placed in any Firefox tool-bar or the Australis PanelUI.
        – Scroll Progress 2.2.0
        Shows how far down you have scrolled
        – Scroll To Top 4.4.1
        Scroll to top and vice versa in a window.
        – Search Site 4.4
        Searches current site from searchbar or context menu.
        – SearchWP 2.7
        Buttons for the search box with terms highlighting
        – Session Manager
        Saves and restores the state of all windows.
        – Show Anchors 2 1.10
        Show and catch anchors in page quickly
        – Super Start 7.2
        A handy Speed dial extension, with a simple todo-list.
        – Tab Scope 1.6.1
        Previews and navigates tab contents through popup.
        – TableTools2 1.17 (Disabled)
        Sort, search, filter, chart, summarize, copy, rearrange, combine and compare HTML tables
        – Thumbnail Zoom Plus 3.1
        Shows full image when you hover over a thumbnail. Works with many sites including Amazon, Baidu Images, Bing Images, Facebook, Flickr, Google+, Google Images, IMDb, LinkedIn, Netflix, Pinterest, Reddit, Taobao, Tumblr, Twitter,, YouTube, Weibo, Wikipedia, WordPress, Yahoo Images, and many more.
        – Tile Tabs 11.13
        Tiles browser tabs horizontally or vertically or in a grid.
        – Undo Closed Tabs Button 3.9.3
        Add a toolbar button onto any toolbar to undo closed tabs
        – Visited 1.11
        Mark all visited links as custom color.
        – VTzilla 1.5
        Right-click on any link and scan the target with VirusTotal, scan your downloads with VirusTotal before storing them in your PC, free and easy. More information at:
        – WOT 20131118
        Web of trust.
        – Xmarks 4.3.6
        Bookmark Sync and Web Discovery
        – Yahoo Mail Hide Ad Panel 2.43
        Hides all the Ad panels (Top, Left, Right) in the NEW Yahoo Mail and expands them to use the full screen, to make your Yahoo Mail completely equivalent to the Paid version for free!
        – Yet Another Smooth Scrolling 3.1.7
        Replaces scrolling with the mouse wheel and the arrow keys into totally customizable smooth one.
        == END OF ADDONS LIST ==
        (ALL of the above addons, work in PALEMOON 25.1.0!)

      5. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 4:05 pm

        Now that’s a smart move :)
        True that Pale Moon is free of what some/many users consider as insignificant and/or a vector holding privacy concerns. If so, and considering that nothing is perfect not even an emancipated fork, then Pale Moon remains the best alternative to Firefox. Here I returned to Firefox because I had/have the feeling that among a few gadgets there is nevertheless a more substantial direction to research&development. Not to mention add-ons I cherish that require most recent FF builds.

    2. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 1:15 pm

      How can you *hate* Mozilla for giving you a product for free? *facepalm* You don’t need Hello, okay, but it’s useful for others. And I am sure you like some features of Firefox which are not needed by others.

      1. Faye Kane ♀ girl brain said on January 13, 2015 at 12:41 am

        > @Faye Cane, girl brain: The world don’t need more trolls.

        You think it’s trolling when someone objects to “The software is free, so STFU about our user-hostile design decisions?”

        No, it is NOT trolling. That is a disingenuous, cowardly reply by someone who can’t address the issue of Mozilla becoming as arrogant and dismissive of the users as Microsoft.

        The issue is whether the system is being written for the benefit of the customers or for the company that writes it. Any company that thinks there’s a difference is doomed to be abandoned. And that’s just what’s happening to FF.

        A perfect example is REMOVING search functionality because yahoo pays you to, presumably because it makes more money for yahoo search.

        ↑ Now call THAT insincere trolling, smartmouth.

      2. Sören Hentzschel said on December 6, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        @Faye Cane, girl brain: The world don’t need more trolls.

      3. Faye Cane, girl brain said on December 6, 2014 at 6:15 am

        > How can you *hate* Mozilla for giving you a product for free?

        Anyone who says that should stay the hell away from open-source programming. You don’t get to dismissively blow off users who you fu ck over just because they aren’t paying for it.

        If you want to be arrogant, push people around, and write software people hate, go work at microsoft.

        -faye cane girl brain

      4. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 6:59 pm

        “WebRTC is an important part of the web”, I agree, Sören Hentzschel. Of the Web, not of a browser. As I see it a browser is not a universal appliance for the Web, it is only a tool like other tools which should remain compacted in its functions. Of course the idea can always be banking going on insurance, insurance on banking, a browser dedicated to a messenger service and messengers becoming themselves bloated to include browser specifics. Personally I prefer a modular/specific approach, for reasons of weight and privacy.

      5. ACow said on December 2, 2014 at 6:56 pm

        Really. Firefox has always had the responsiveness of a heavily sedated sea cow. Let’s keep adding features to it that have at least something to do with the web and see what makes it reach the rock bottom, because *some* users will find that useful. Some users might find it useful to have a browser with graphic editing capability. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to actually implement it. A web browser is not a messenger, it is not a music/video streaming application, it is not an FTP client, it is not an e-mail client. It is a web browser.

      6. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 6:25 pm

        “have nothing to do with Firefox” is wrong, WebRTC is an important part of the web, like it or not, but it is. So WebRTC has a lot to do with Firefox because Firefox is a web browser.

        And “bloating”… really? In the age of terabyte harddrives? It has no noticeable performance impact.

      7. Tom Hawack said on December 2, 2014 at 6:10 pm

        WebRTC and family members has nothing to do with a Web browser, I entirely agree. A browser is not a messenger no more than it is an email provider. This is a browser’s odyssey in the trend of bloating. Not to mention that WebRTC is very talkative in terms of privacy. I’ve been told it even beats a VPN’s secrecy.

        This is why I consider and regret that Mozilla sticks to gadgets which have nothing to do with Firefox. Meanwhile the company focuses on research, gadgets included but not only, which remains an interesting approach. Taking the best, or considered as such by the user, and disabling the extra is a fair trade IMO.

      8. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 5:53 pm

        WebRTC communication has nothing to do with a browser? I disagree.

      9. ACow said on December 2, 2014 at 5:21 pm


        Attempting to make Firefox recognizable again? Here’s an idea, and bear with me, cause it’s a wild one: they should make the browser look different than its main competitor.

        The browser has completely lost its identity. I’ve been running Palemoon since long before the Australis fiasco. When I downloaded the Tor Bundle one day, I was very surprised to see that they’ve switched from Firefox to Chromium. Only they haven’t…


        Whether it’s useful to somebody or not is beside the point. Removing and adding features that directly affect the way we browse the web and whether those changes are good or bad is debatable. Adding things that have NOTHING to do with browsing the web to a web browser is bloat. Plain and simple.

      10. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 4:18 pm

        “believing they know what’s better for users” – we can say the same about your comment, right? But there is a difference: Mozilla _knows_ better than you or I what is better for hundreds of millions of Firefox users because they do market research, user studies et cetera. And regarding “not caring at all for any feedback”, I have to disagree. Mozilla is thankful for _constructive_ feedback, but not for comments like “they are full of arrogance”. And by the way, there is a lot of positive feedback about Hello. Why is your opinion better than the opinion of others who like Hello as feature of Firefox?

      11. insanelyapple said on December 2, 2014 at 3:58 pm

        It seems that Hello is an attempt to drive away users from other browsers, trying making Firefox recognizable once again; it should be provided as add-on feature that can be disabled and removed – it shouldn’t be included in browser’s code because it’s a web browser for gods sake, not some multimedia gizmo application.
        It’s not about if feature is free, premium – it shouldn’t be pushed down to users throats. There’s big add-ons system which Firefox rely on and they should use it to deliver any additional features.

        Mozilla acts since introduction of Australis like any other ordinary corporation – they’re full of arrogance, believing they know what’s better for users, not caring at all for any feedback – no matter how constructive it would be.

  55. Sören Hentzschel said on December 2, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    “Users are reporting that the add-on stopped working in Firefox 34 and the main reason for that appears to be that the extension is no longer maintained actively.”

    There will be an update for Flashblock, see bug 1052480 in Mozilla’s bugtracker. And according to this bug FlashStopper has the same issue and is no alternative (and maybe the others too, I don’t know).

    1. Brad J said on December 12, 2014 at 9:16 am

      After the FF 34 release which broke Flashblock, not only was there an unofficial update within a couple days (which fixed it), but an official update was released on December 9.

      The break was caused by this:

      (notice the dev actually says “This has the potential to break addons (like flashblock), though the fix required is minimal.”)

      All that was needed to restore functionality was to add the –bindToUntrustedContent=”true”– attribute in all the necessary places.

    2. Pete said on December 2, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      On that 1052480 ticket the Flashblock author last commented on 2014-10-21:

      “Yup I plan to update it. Sorry for the extreme procrastination.”

      That’s over month ago already. :(

      When I had to move to Firefox after many happy years with Opera, which went mad and changed itself to a Chrome-clone, I hated, and always have hated, plugins/addons for this very particular reason, things break all the time (not to mention security) and you have to load a huge set of addons, which have impact on the browser, in order to get a few measly options/features that should be in the main browser in the first place (e.g. addons for tab previews, mouse gestures, and get this, removing close buttons from tabs (why on earth that had to be removed from about:config?!?! stupid)). Opera was perfect without addons. It had everything a normal or even power user needed.

    3. Martin Brinkmann said on December 2, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      Good news, thanks!

  56. jimbo said on December 2, 2014 at 11:50 am

    chrome://browser/content/search/engineManager.xul … brilliant ! thank you
    and for picking me up every time I stumble along this long and winding rocky road
    (commenters too)

  57. Ray said on December 2, 2014 at 11:03 am

    I was so looking forward to the chat feature and I could not see it on installing the new firefox 34.

    Change loop.throttled in about:config to false to see the chat button. Hope it helps other users

  58. jonas said on December 2, 2014 at 10:40 am

    I’ve got the FF 34.0.5 but it is in beta. I’m trying to update but it seems final

  59. Alex said on December 2, 2014 at 10:32 am

    As an Arch Linux user I have installed Firefox 34.0.5. I don’t have the hello button neither. I like how it works the new search bar, I hope they will polish in next updates.

  60. RossN said on December 2, 2014 at 10:12 am

    I’ve been on the ‘beta’ channel for years, now 34.0.5, and I don’t see the changed search engine thing.

  61. Michael Fisher said on December 2, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Hope this isn’t off topic – perhaps it’s related but when I go to my “About Firefox”…
    I get the dialog box with a spinner that says “Updating” which turns into a button that says “Restart to Update”
    Clicking button does nothing & manually restarting doesn’t update – stuck on 33.1.1

    Think I’ll leave it for a few days & if it all remains stuck I’ll just download 34 manually
    I also can’t see the option anymore in the “about” dialog to change channel – maybe that feature has moved to somewhere else
    Don’t know if that’s a recent change or not

    1. Trent said on January 14, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      I’m having the same issue.
      Hope it gets ironed out soon.

    2. Ronald said on December 2, 2014 at 10:47 am

      I experienced the same thing yesterday. Then late last evening, got the update notification without any prompting from me. Everything went smoothly and Fx is now on 34.0.

    3. Martin Brinkmann said on December 2, 2014 at 10:07 am

      I’d run a manual update to make sure the security issues are fixed.

      1. Michael Fisher said on December 2, 2014 at 11:12 am

        Thank you for your help Martin

        I manually updated making sure to download from the arrow for Windows + GB English version from the Mozilla site
        So here I am In the UK & now on 34.0.5 & all’s well except…

        “English (GB) language Pack is incompatible with Firefox 34.0.5. English (GB) language Pack 33.1 (disabled)”:-

        So I downloaded this instead & it works great:-
        Perhaps Mozilla needs to change their “official” GB language pack provider to this Marco A.G.Pinto in the above link. Weird that a major language pack is incompatible with latest normal Firefox channel version…

        Still can’t see where to discover what update channel I’m on
        I suppose I could open the json & look, but surprised it’s not in the “About Firefox” dialog…

  62. Dwight Stegall said on December 2, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Maybe they’ll fix those in sub releases in the coming weeks.

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