Newsgroups: the ultimate P2P alternative

Martin Brinkmann
Jul 17, 2006
Updated • Jun 9, 2013

P2P is in the news, every day. You see organizations like the RIAA hunting down file sharers, you read about Trojans and viruses that are spread through P2P networks. Everything seems rather risky at the moment. A new player is emerging from the shadows which is using a very old communication system, the Usenet. You might know a part of the Usenet if you ever read something on Google groups. Google Groups is an archive of the part of the Usenet that looks similar to bulletin boards.

But there is a hidden side, a side that many never heard about: The binary side. The Usenet holds also a large binary archive which is growing by 2800 gigabytes daily. Yes, you read that right, 2,8 Terabyte of files every day. All files (and the discussion as well) are stored in groups, like alt.binaries.dvd or alt.binaries.mp3. You can take a look at some of the files that are stored at the Usenet by visiting Binsearch.

It is a Usenet search engine that you can use to find files that have been uploaded to it. You can alternatively browse groups as well. If it finds matches you are able to download them, if you have a Usenet account and a program that is able to download such files, that is.

Difference between P2P and Usenet

So, what are the main differences between P2P and Usenet? First, if you want to download something from P2P networks you are always uploading the same file to other users while downloading it, provided other users are also downloading the file.

It is easy to detect file sharers by simply looking at the IPs of people who upload a certain file. If you use the Usenet, you don't upload at all. You download with full speed without ever uploading a single bit. You can of course upload files but you do not have to, and both actions are completely unrelated to each other.

Second, P2P downloads are slow most of the time. If you have only a few seeders the file may take very long to complete, if at all. Sometimes the seeders decide to stop seeding the file and you sit there with a file that is unusable. Usenet files are always complete once they have been uploaded. If you see the file you know it is finished. Sometimes there are incomplete files but this is seldom if you have the right Usenet provider and there is a way to complete those files even though they are incomplete.

I'm using a commercial program to download files from the Usenet, it is called newsbin. There are free tools out there that have the same functionality, one of them is grabit. I will explain how to configure grabit at the end of the article.

You also need an account from an Usenet provider. I'm using Giganews because it is the provider that has the highest retention (stores files the longest time) and offers the highest speeds of all Usenet providers. I'm for instance downloading files with 1,8 Megabytes per second using all the bandwidth of my 16 Mbit line.

Binary accounts to the Usenet are not free. Providers have to charge money due to the immense transfer volume of the Usenet. As I said earlier there are many Usenet providers, some are good, some are bad. Giganews is the best in my opinion, they offer three different account types. I'm using their unlimited account type, which means I'm allowed to download an unlimited number of files without download restriction for 34,99 $ a month. The smaller unlimited plan for $24.99 gets you access to the Usenet as well but less add-on products, more about that in a minute. The smallest plan lets you download 5 Gigabyte per month for $4.99.


You do get online file storage on top of that with all plans, and the plan that I'm using gets virtual private network access and a Usenet browser on top of that. If you do not need that, select the Platinum plan instead and save $10 a month.

So, the Usenet offers more or less what P2P networks offer. The pro is that you don't have to upload, that you can download with full speed and that RIAA and the like are concentrating their efforts on P2P networks and not the Usenet. The bad might be that you will have to purchase an account to download files from the Usenet in first place.

Let us take a look at the Grabit configuration.

  • Install and start grabit.
  • Just click next on the dialog until you see the main window of Grabit.
  • Right-click on my grabit on the left and select Add Server.
  • A new window appears. Enter the following data. Hostname: ; Account name: the user name Giganews send you ; Password: the password Giganews send you. Maximum allowed connections: the maximum connections for your account (select different values if you have a different provider).

grabit usenet

  • The entry should be updated automatically.
  • Right click on it (it should appear below my grabit) and select Refresh Group List. This retrieves all newsgroups from Giganews (more than 100.000 at the moment).
  • Click on all groups on the right to see a listing of all groups.
  • You can sort the groups by article count to see the most popular groups at the moment. You can also perform a search for some groups, for instance enter movie or binary in the search field.
  • Right-click a group and select subscribe to add the group to your private listing.
  • A + icon appears when you add the first group on the left and if you click it you see a listing of all your subscribed groups.
  • Select the group there, right click and choose full update to retrieve all files that are stored in that newsgroup.
  • The process may take a while at the first time because some groups hold lots of articles. The batch tab shows a progress bar of the downloads that are currently happening.

Clicking on articles will reveal all files that are stored in that group. New files are added all the time, it is worth to check groups more than once a day if you are looking for a special file. You double click an article to download it. It is really that easy.

It is of course illegal to download copy protected files and I do not encourage you to download such files.  If you are interested, the Usenet holds the largest amount of files worldwide, applications, games, movies, books, music and of course porn.

If you have further questions let me know, I will be glad to answer everything that came up during this long article.

Try out Giganews now.


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  1. ilev said on August 4, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Doesn’t Windows 8 know that www. or http:// are passe ?

    1. Martin Brinkmann said on August 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm

      Well it is a bit difficulty to distinguish between domains and files for instance.

    2. Leonidas Burton said on September 4, 2023 at 4:51 am

      I know a service made by google that is similar to Google bookmarks.

  2. VioletMoon said on August 16, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    @Ashwin–Thankful you delighted my comment; who knows how many “gamers” would have disagreed!

  3. Karl said on August 17, 2023 at 10:36 pm


    The comments section under this very article (3 comments) is identical to the comments section found under the following article:

    Not sure what the issue is, but have seen this issue under some other articles recently but did not report it back then.

  4. Anonymous said on August 25, 2023 at 11:44 am

    Omg a badge!!!
    Some tangible reward lmao.

    It sucks that redditors are going to love the fuck out of it too.

  5. Scroogled said on August 25, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    With the cloud, there is no such thing as unlimited storage or privacy. Stop relying on these tech scums. Purchase your own hardware and develop your own solutions.

    1. lollmaoeven said on August 27, 2023 at 6:24 am

      This is a certified reddit cringe moment. Hilarious how the article’s author tries to dress it up like it’s anything more than a png for doing the reddit corporation’s moderation work for free (or for bribes from companies and political groups)

  6. El Duderino said on August 25, 2023 at 11:14 pm

    Almost al unlmited services have a real limit.

    And this comment is written on the dropbox article from August 25, 2023.

  7. John G. said on August 26, 2023 at 1:29 am

    First comment > @ilev said on August 4, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    For the God’s sake, fix the comments soon please! :[

  8. Kalmly said on August 26, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    Yes. Please. Fix the comments.

  9. Kim Schmidt said on September 3, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    With Google Chrome, it’s only been 1,500 for some time now.

    Anyone who wants to force me in such a way into buying something that I can get elsewhere for free will certainly never see a single dime from my side. I don’t even know how stupid their marketing department is to impose these limits on users instead of offering a valuable product to the paying faction. But they don’t. Even if you pay, you get something that is also available for free elsewhere.

    The algorithm has also become less and less savvy in terms of e.g. English/German translations. It used to be that the bot could sort of sense what you were trying to say and put it into different colloquialisms, which was even fun because it was like, “I know what you’re trying to say here, how about…” Now it’s in parts too stupid to translate the simplest sentences correctly, and the suggestions it makes are at times as moronic as those made by Google Translations.

    If this is a deep-learning AI that learns from users’ translations and the phrases they choose most often – which, by the way, is a valuable, moneys worthwhile contribution of every free user to this project: They invest their time and texts, thereby providing the necessary data for the AI to do the thing as nicely as they brag about it in the first place – alas, the more unprofessional users discovered the translator, the worse the language of this deep-learning bot has become, the greater the aggregate of linguistically illiterate users has become, and the worse the language of this deep-learning bot has become, as it now learns the drivel of every Tom, Dick and Harry out there, which is why I now get their Mickey Mouse language as suggestions: the inane language of people who can barely spell the alphabet, it seems.

    And as a thank you for our time and effort in helping them and their AI learn, they’ve lowered the limit from what was once 5,000 to now 1,500…? A big “fuck off” from here for that! Not a brass farthing from me for this attitude and behaviour, not in a hundred years.

  10. Anonymous said on September 28, 2023 at 8:19 am

    When will you put an end to the mess in the comments?

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