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		<title>Yahoo Does A Microsoft</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music Industry]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the fiasco that Microsoft experienced when they made the announcements that they would turn off the MSN Music servers one would have thought that other companies would not follow that lead and would have learned a lesson from it. 
Microsoft backpedaled quickly after it became apparent that the public was not that pleased with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the fiasco that Microsoft experienced when they made the announcements that they would turn off the MSN Music servers one would have thought that other companies would not follow that lead and would have learned a lesson from it. </p>
<p>Microsoft backpedaled quickly after it became apparent that the public was not that pleased with their decision and decided to keep the servers up and running for another three year period. The huge problem that arises when DRM servers are taken off the Internet is that the verification process will fail which means that users who want to move the music from an old to a new computer &#8211; where they had to verify the music again &#8211; would realize that they could not do so because of the server being offline.</p>
<p>Yahoo <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080724-drm-still-sucks-yahoo-music-going-dark-taking-keys-with-it.html">apparently</a> did not pay attention to the media fiasco and decided to close the Yahoo! Music Store and take the DRM servers offline on September 30, 2008. </p>
<p><span id="more-5600"></span>Yahoo is giving users of their music service the advise to burn the tracks to CD and rip those tracks on the new computer so that they would be able to listen to the music on a new computer as well. </p>
<p>If you needed another reason why DRM is bad then you got it. And it&#8217;s not that some small companies decided to turn off their servers, it&#8217;s two huge global corporations that decided to do it. (And Google did it as well before with Google Video)</p>

	Tags: <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/drm/" title="drm" rel="tag">drm</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/drm-music/" title="drm music" rel="tag">drm music</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/google-video/" title="google-video" rel="tag">google-video</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/msn-music/" title="msn music" rel="tag">msn music</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/music-industry/" title="Music Industry" rel="tag">Music Industry</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/yahoo-music-store/" title="yahoo music store" rel="tag">yahoo music store</a><br />

	<h4>Related posts</h4>
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	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2007/08/13/why-drm-is-not-consumer-friendly/" title="Why DRM is not consumer friendly (August 13, 2007)">Why DRM is not consumer friendly</a> (3)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2008/09/28/walmart-to-shut-down-drm-servers/" title="Walmart To Shut Down DRM Servers (September 28, 2008)">Walmart To Shut Down DRM Servers</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2008/10/10/walmart-decides-to-keep-drm-servers/" title="Walmart Decides To Keep DRM Servers (October 10, 2008)">Walmart Decides To Keep DRM Servers</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2006/10/05/the-industry-fights-some-uneccessary-battles/" title="The industry fights some unnecessary battles (October 5, 2006)">The industry fights some unnecessary battles</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/13/new-trend-raise-music-prices-by-offering-drm-free-music/" title="New Trend: Raise Music Prices by offering DRM Free Music (April 13, 2007)">New Trend: Raise Music Prices by offering DRM Free Music</a> (2)</li>
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		<title>Microsoft shows us another reason why DRM is evil</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/04/23/microsoft-shows-us-another-reason-why-drm-is-evil/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Music Industry]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those users who made purchases in online stores that were using DRM to &#8220;protect&#8221; the files from being copied and traded are slowly beginning to reap what they sowed. I never bought music or other files that were protected by DRM. The protection is not that hard to crack anyway if someone really wanted to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those users who made purchases in online stores that were using DRM to &#8220;protect&#8221; the files from being copied and traded are slowly beginning to reap what they sowed. I never bought music or other files that were protected by DRM. The protection is not that hard to crack anyway if someone really wanted to do that and the last resort is as always to record the audio or video signal. So, it&#8217;s not about the limitations, it was about something else that made me turn away from media with DRM.</p>
<p>What made me turn away back then is slowly becoming a problem for those users who did not turn away, who did purchase music and videos on those Internet stores. DRM is dependent on that store and license servers. If those stores and servers are gone, be it because the company ceases to exist or because it makes the decision to close the online store, then guess what ? The user is left with DRM files that cannot be transferred to a new computer or retrieved anymore. Without a licensing server there is no way to activate the music and videos legally.</p>
<p>How does that sound ? Some users defended DRM by stating that smaller companies would probably run into those problems but if a user would buy from big companies, like Microsoft, Apple or Yahoo they would not run into them. (Was not Google involved in something similar last year?) This can be easily refuted right now by pointing to the announcement that Microsoft made:</p>
<p><span id="more-3896"></span><br />
<blockquote>As of August 31, 2008, we will no longer be able to support the retrieval of license keys for the songs you purchased from MSN Music or the authorization of additional computers.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, if you did purchase music from MSN Music you better start burning the music to CDs and DVDs and rip them again to get rid of the DRM so that you can keep the music that you did purchase for a lifetime. </p>
<p>I do not feel sorry for the users who made the purchases. If no one would buy music with DRM the companies would sooner than later start online shops without DRM. Not that it protects anything either.</p>
<p>via [<a href="http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/04/22/msn-music-store-bites-the-dust-whilst-drm-steals-customers-musi/">Download Squad</a>]</p>

	Tags: <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/drm/" title="drm" rel="tag">drm</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/drm-failure/" title="drm failure" rel="tag">drm failure</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/microsoft/" title="microsoft" rel="tag">microsoft</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/msn/" title="msn" rel="tag">msn</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/msn-music/" title="msn music" rel="tag">msn music</a>, <a href="http://www.ghacks.net/tag/music-store/" title="music store" rel="tag">music store</a><br />

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	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2007/01/20/zune-does-not-allow-to-share-all-songs/" title="Zune does not allow to share all songs (January 20, 2007)">Zune does not allow to share all songs</a> (3)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2008/07/25/yahoo-does-a-microsoft/" title="Yahoo Does A Microsoft (July 25, 2008)">Yahoo Does A Microsoft</a> (3)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/10/windows-live-messenger-85-beta-2/" title="Windows Live Messenger 8.5 beta 2 (September 10, 2007)">Windows Live Messenger 8.5 beta 2</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2006/11/21/watch-arrested-development-on-msn/" title="Watch Arrested Development on MSN (November 21, 2006)">Watch Arrested Development on MSN</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.ghacks.net/2008/09/28/walmart-to-shut-down-drm-servers/" title="Walmart To Shut Down DRM Servers (September 28, 2008)">Walmart To Shut Down DRM Servers</a> (2)</li>
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