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By: dk

dk — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:24:23 +0000

To the extend a software product can protect your safe computing yes ;) As good as any other AV of course, difference is not that big if you disregard the best and the worst. You might not have need for anything. Activate between ears shield and nothing bad will happen… If you have much illegal incoming from p2p, cant help clicking in general, perhaps have other than your self using computer – then MSE is not enough. MS count on you to compute wisely, from strong passwords, UAC, no unnecessary use of Admin account to updates of browser plugins. May be even system backup making this “security” less of an issue. Is now in all 7 versions right? Use it. But you and usage of computer decide needs, problems don’t fall from the sky.

Some just like to have a cool program and if money is not object NIS2010 and friends are nice :) You can’t get such things for free. Just don’t think it is a great demand. Can easily “value” your data and family without investing. Avast, AVG, Avira have just as good AVs but MS name on a box make a big difference. Most of those potential customers trying out MSE will most likely not return = they are no longer targets. Lost in MS. Don’t forget Forefront, MS also go after business side. They need to build up trust in name now we are going cloudy right? ;) They think ahead.

If you look at how the not so aware users get into trouble it has not really much to do with AV, definitely not which brand. More like installing crappy programs, not understanding basic Windows, getting fooled at Google searches or navigating internet else where, simply being lazy/naive/click happy. Such people are hard to help with software. A no pain no gain situation I think, all have to learn. If really hopeless I would suggest trying to tame internet with WOT, perhaps even paid Malwarebytes which includes a mini-WOT. Have to make a risk evaluation and security policy for each setup to find out details. Doing that wont be good to caring industry ;) Being secure is more knowledge than shape of icon in task tray. But I said lazy = easy solutions are welcomed. Install whatever paid product and that is it. There will always be such customers.

MS is greedy bastards but I don’ t care. Think at least basic AV should be build-in Windows so MS is just starting to deliver – don’t take something away from anyone. Should have made MSE when XP was released.

By: JCR

JCR — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:05:57 +0000

So, dk, if I follow you well, that means that when I’ll install 7 on the machine I’m building, I can rely on MS security tools to protect my PC. If I get you right, I would be at least as well protected as with any other software ( home computer)??

By: dk

dk — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:39:08 +0000

No not really. MSE is not welcomed by all and interests will typically show in just magazines. Also in forums btw, may be even in these comments – eager resellers, fan boys who already paid. Same thing all over. Interests also show them self in “test” of course. You will find it hard to find any security product which is not “widely acclaimed”, by someone somewhere. “tech savvy users” label should be used carefully, like how many left after excluding idea security is about a brand?, preferably investing in one. At least half is gone. Few know much, or really care, but somehow all understand concept and importance of “security” = loads of BS and marketing playing the “scare card”. Now with Windows Vista/7 MSE is not welcomed at all. Old stories will eventually die out, where to get new ones from?

Test is pretty silly though. Removal/repair is not a priority among the old companies. You don’t get infected so why bother ;) And so we end up with Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware and much more. That site usually focus on prevention. If you look at details none performed well but at least they have that feature in common.

MSE has some obvious faults but they are already testing a new beta – which indicates they have no plan of stopping this “attack” :)

By: JCR

JCR — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:16:28 +0000

This is real funny…only testing removal abilities…The main purpose of an AV is to BLOCK viruses and other malware.
What is also strange is that living now in Europe, I read a lot of french IT reviews,magazines etc and I can tell you that MS security suite is widely considered here as a pile of you know what…even in tests.
The most widely acclaimed AV here are Kaspersky, Avira, G Data, BitDefender and Nod32 with extensive tests backing this up. Not quite the results shown here….Bizarre…