Comments on: Aimp 2 Adds Windows 7 Jumplist Support

By: Sacri F'Shall

Sacri F'Shall — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:47:25 +0000

Well yes, but absolute minimal programs (if they are resident, rather than single-run) would likely occupy the system tray more often than a live task position. The fact some developers don’t know how is a good possibility, however there is a lot of information that has been pushed in the last few months, and so unless you’ve been unaware of it or ignoring it, chances are you have at least heard of some of it. I’ve played around with adding some Windows 7 specific features (AppID, JumpLists, and some other things) here and there to some of my internally built and used applications, and some of them are almost drag and drop simple for implementing.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:02:07 +0000

Because some people just don’t know how, or that they want their app to do only the bare minimum, or maybe their app just doesn’t need it. I mean, where’s the benefit in having a jumplist for something like System Optimizers – maybe a slight benefit- but not much of one.

By: Sacri F'Shall

Sacri F'Shall — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:45:24 +0000

Oh, I would totally expect multi-hundred dollar applications to have these sorts of features when they are so easy to implement. True, not everybody wants to cater to a Windows environ. If your project is multiplatform and you would rather not deal with the added complexity of platform specific special-features, then I can completely understand why you wouldn’t want to add them in. That said, if your program is exclusively for Windows (or Mac OS X, or OpenBSD, or whatever), then why not take advantage of the APIs that are built into the system to make your life easier, and to add in easy to implement features?

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:16:26 +0000

I didn’t say you didn’t – I was just giving a example of application type that uses small jumps and lets people edit the very latest versions. People may not even want to cater to windows anyway – but you can expect most paid for applications to have them – Dreamweaver, etc.

By: Sacri F'Shall

Sacri F'Shall — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:10:42 +0000

When did I say anything about open source? Big steps are fine. If new versions are still in development then it takes a few minutes to plan for this feature. The fact that these developers may be making efforts towards it (even if it the update hasn’t been released) is good.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:59:29 +0000

Because not every one is open source – they like to release products as big steps, not nightly builds or whatever. They could have added it, but it’s currently built in to a larger update, and that may still be in development. Another reason is, there’s very little point, and it’s a new concept for Windows developers – maybe they just haven’t thought about it.

By: Sacri F'Shall

Sacri F'Shall — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:08:11 +0000

Noah:
I would think that they would do it because the OS _IS_ out? Tons of people have been using the beta, and the RC. Already Microsoft has released the RTM (essentially final version) to Technet Plus and MSDN folks. This means a large number of developers, IT Pros, and even enthusiasts are already on the final version. The OS _IS_ out. If you are still developing for your application and making updates, why not add in goodies for the folks who are making the plunge first? It might get a few more users and possibly even paying customers or contributors that way.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:37:48 +0000

DataCabbitKSW :
Why would they even bother making something for a Operating System that isn’t out yet. They may have versions with jumplists ready, but they won’t have made them available to the general public.

By: DataCabbitKSW

DataCabbitKSW — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:14:51 +0000

Jumplist additions, Application ID, and several other of the nifty features are _REALLY_ dead simple to code in. I wish more developers would take the time to update their apps to include these features as they are really easy to do. There are tons of drop-in bits of exaple code on how to utilize this. There are some video/code demos overe here from Microsoft as well: http://tinyurl.com/oh8nx8 . If your application is written with the .NET framework in mind, then there is zero excuse not to use it. However, if you are coding in other languages (trying to be cross platform, coding for speed and/or resource usae, or for whatever other reason) there are exampes that can be ported, and external API calls that can be utilized pretty easy as well in order to get these things done. I look forward to more features being implemented via the JumpList.

By: Imran Hussain

Imran Hussain — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:06:22 +0000

Recent files is something Windows 7 provides by default in the jump list to every application.
I don’t see how AIMP 2 provides support for jump lists in this manner :S