Comments on: German Web Censorship Law Passed

By: Martin

Martin — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:18 +0000

Democracy is actually a big part of the problem.. And no, it is not effective what they do.

By: mikeinreality

mikeinreality — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:48:48 +0000

you guys are ridiculous…Germany is just using effective police work strategies to prevent child abuse. They are not even going overboard with the tech. The German state does this sort of thing very well, and it is because it is a DEMOCRACY. The opposition here had manly do with a bunch of hackers that wanted to have a cracked democracy for the sake of their own illegal self interests. About “TOR”, it uses a series of known ip addresses and serves. In addition, it gives voluntarily the information to the British Gov, who in turn gives it to other govs. So TOR, is a poor man version of a work around and would not do anything but give you a false sense of security from which you would eventually get caught.

As a far leftist, I can tell you the bill that passed is not that bad and a better example of democracy then I can remember ever when living in the United States.

By: a gamer

a gamer — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:30:12 +0000

to me so much of this sounds like paranoia. uesing “VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES! *~*” as an example. nigh on all the people who say that games are bad and that they turn people into killers, have never been within 2 meaters of a game. also they tend not to define “violent games”, about 90% of games are violent in some way.

i apologise for any crap spelling, punctuation or deveiation from the subject

By: Martin

Martin — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:49:38 +0000

There is already a lot of censorship going on in Germany and other parts of Europe. Just compare search results between google.com and google.de and you notice that some websites are not included in the German Google index. Mostly websites that deal with the Holocaust and WWII but there might be others, who knows.

By: Roman ShaRP

Roman ShaRP — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:51:57 +0000

Markus, can you provide addresses of that sites for us?

By: Markus

Markus — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:11:34 +0000

Tis is indeet very sad and scary. I already feel like we lived in china …

By the way: there already is political sensorship. I knew at least two satire-websites that were swicht off.

By: remember Auschwitz?

remember Auschwitz? — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:24:16 +0000

German Big Brother

By: Pickwick

Pickwick — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:09:04 +0000

The awful and familiar problem with such ‘protective’ measures – and it’s happening in the UK too – is that throughout history people simply never, NEVER, learn…

By: Livefreeinformation

Livefreeinformation — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:40:37 +0000

Long Live Free information. What are Germans so afraid? I suppose the politicians that approved this where happy revarded in Euro$.

I feel really sorry for the Germans which think they live in Democracy. Germany controls information for a long time just like China does. I hope other countries never let this kind of laws. This kind of bans are never for Sex websites or terrorism. They always block websites which they think political incorrect.

I can only quote Benjamin Franklin:

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.
People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.
Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither.
Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.

By: yogi

yogi — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:55:08 +0000

A sad day for freedom in the West.

By: Martin

Martin — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:21:42 +0000

Dante there was lots of opposition in Germany, more than 140000 people signed an online petition where you had to register to sign (IIRC). But since there is no direct democracy in Germany and politicians usually only care about their believes and their sponsors there is no way this law was not going to pass.

By: Shelia

Shelia — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:14:21 +0000

Germany is not the only european country with such secret blacklists of censored sites. Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, UK and the Netherlands are censoring too. Europe, China and Iran are competing very hard who`s best in “protecting” their population from the evil internet…

By: DanTe

DanTe — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:44:03 +0000

I had always wondered by Germany and France are trying to be so chummy chummy with China. The politicians there wants to emulate the communist regime.

I guess those “freedom projects” now apply to Germany as well. Too bad.

Has anyone there challenged this law under EU auspices?

By: Thinker

Thinker — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:43:34 +0000

Like in China :D Don’t worry, there is a lot of ways to bypass this censorship :)

By: Roman ShaRP

Roman ShaRP — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:47:24 +0000

Long live anonymizers and censorship-passing programs/software/networks like TOR.

First they blocking for porn, then for terrorism, then anything they don’t like “for the state and nation security” or copyright infringement, and as I don’t trust authorities, I don’t trust censorship they introduce as well.