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		<title>By: Manoj</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-905036</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! Opera leads the way again.</description>
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		<title>By: Where Can I Listen To Opera Music On The Internet &#124; Internet Business</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-873814</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Can I Listen To Opera Music On The Internet &#124; Internet Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Opera Unite Opera has finally lift the veil and introduced the thing that would reinvent the Internet. It goes by the name Opera Unit and will be a part of the upcoming. &#8230; question is when trying to listen to a shared media folder do you have to use opera as i cant seem to get the page to work on my first attempt here at work. Ie share with opera 10 and listen via another browser (chrome3). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Opera Unite Opera has finally lift the veil and introduced the thing that would reinvent the Internet. It goes by the name Opera Unit and will be a part of the upcoming. &#8230; question is when trying to listen to a shared media folder do you have to use opera as i cant seem to get the page to work on my first attempt here at work. Ie share with opera 10 and listen via another browser (chrome3). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stream</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-835453</link>
		<dc:creator>Stream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice share. .</description>
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		<title>By: Opera Unite &#8211; Cambia la visione di Internet? Pro e Contro &#124; 3 sul Blog - Tech, Fun e Web 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-831356</link>
		<dc:creator>Opera Unite &#8211; Cambia la visione di Internet? Pro e Contro &#124; 3 sul Blog - Tech, Fun e Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tobey</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-829410</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this sounds great since I&#039;ve only recently been looking for just about that - found a nice social/sharing alternative called Retroshare, though it needs some more development to be stable/usable :-/
Thanks for the good news, I don&#039;t think setting up a regular web server as we understand right within the browser is a good idea but the file sharing and social features might be awesome. Can&#039;t wait to try that out.

PS: “- get rid of bittorrent ability completely, it’s annoying to have to disable with crude hacks. Seriously, who uses this “functionality”?”

- Gotta disagree with that one, crudely. Changing the default setting inside Opera is a no-brainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this sounds great since I&#8217;ve only recently been looking for just about that &#8211; found a nice social/sharing alternative called Retroshare, though it needs some more development to be stable/usable :-/<br />
Thanks for the good news, I don&#8217;t think setting up a regular web server as we understand right within the browser is a good idea but the file sharing and social features might be awesome. Can&#8217;t wait to try that out.</p>
<p>PS: “- get rid of bittorrent ability completely, it’s annoying to have to disable with crude hacks. Seriously, who uses this “functionality”?”</p>
<p>- Gotta disagree with that one, crudely. Changing the default setting inside Opera is a no-brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jobs &#187; Opera Unite</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-829196</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jobs &#187; Opera Unite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the original here: Opera Unite Social [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Opera 10 Unite Released!</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828993</link>
		<dc:creator>Opera 10 Unite Released!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Opera has finally lift the veil and introduced the “thing” that would reinvent the Internet. It ... Opera Unite is modularized and comes with so called services that can be installed to extend the functionality. This may remind many users of Firefox add-ons but it is actually a completely different technology that requires more than just clicking on an install link. Currently seven services are offered, they are:  Media Player – Accessing the music collection from anywhere on the Internet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Opera has finally lift the veil and introduced the “thing” that would reinvent the Internet. It &#8230; Opera Unite is modularized and comes with so called services that can be installed to extend the functionality. This may remind many users of Firefox add-ons but it is actually a completely different technology that requires more than just clicking on an install link. Currently seven services are offered, they are:  Media Player – Accessing the music collection from anywhere on the Internet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828727</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Core

I completely relate to your arguments as fellow techie. :)

Still for average user few clicks in browser to share some photo is easier than purchasing hosting or running own WAMP stack.

It&#039;s not really &quot;if this is useful&quot;, more like &quot;it will be there so if anyone will use it&quot;.

My blog is out of down at last so I&#039;ll shut up here and go make mess of a Unite discussion over there. :)</description>
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<p>I completely relate to your arguments as fellow techie. :)</p>
<p>Still for average user few clicks in browser to share some photo is easier than purchasing hosting or running own WAMP stack.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really &#8220;if this is useful&#8221;, more like &#8220;it will be there so if anyone will use it&#8221;.</p>
<p>My blog is out of down at last so I&#8217;ll shut up here and go make mess of a Unite discussion over there. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Core</title>
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		<dc:creator>Core</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing I see makes me want to switch off Firefox honestly… To me all they have done is stuck a webserver with some toys into the browser, I don’t really care about that. id rather setup my own and have the control over it (Plus it would support PHP, which I do the PHP backend on websites, so id have more options).

Though, I am interested in seeing what happens with: 
1) Terms of Use Violation (If this truely is hosted off your computer, it technically violates my ISPs (comcast) terms of use unless it is using some loophole).
2) Security issues. You now have browser and webserver security, furthermore the security of the users computer itself might come into play.

Hosting, it&#039;s not expensive, get it instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I see makes me want to switch off Firefox honestly… To me all they have done is stuck a webserver with some toys into the browser, I don’t really care about that. id rather setup my own and have the control over it (Plus it would support PHP, which I do the PHP backend on websites, so id have more options).</p>
<p>Though, I am interested in seeing what happens with:<br />
1) Terms of Use Violation (If this truely is hosted off your computer, it technically violates my ISPs (comcast) terms of use unless it is using some loophole).<br />
2) Security issues. You now have browser and webserver security, furthermore the security of the users computer itself might come into play.</p>
<p>Hosting, it&#8217;s not expensive, get it instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Opera to re-invent the web - Raymond.CC Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opera to re-invent the web - Raymond.CC Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/  And   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bet</title>
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		<dc:creator>bet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;uTorrent is much better at the job, and I’ll bet much more efficient&quot;

Who cares? It&#039;s much easier to NOT install uTorrent, it is much more user friendly NOT to open a new program for torrents. And don&#039;t forget, there are five billion people who don&#039;t even know what a torrent client is. Why should they waste their lives on looking up such irrelevant information? 

There is FTP support in all browsers, people used to compain about that too. Torrents really are just another protocol to support. So that people don&#039;t have to search up info on what client that is the most efficient and does the best job. Nobody really cares until they have to. They consider their free time more important than download efficiency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;uTorrent is much better at the job, and I’ll bet much more efficient&#8221;</p>
<p>Who cares? It&#8217;s much easier to NOT install uTorrent, it is much more user friendly NOT to open a new program for torrents. And don&#8217;t forget, there are five billion people who don&#8217;t even know what a torrent client is. Why should they waste their lives on looking up such irrelevant information? </p>
<p>There is FTP support in all browsers, people used to compain about that too. Torrents really are just another protocol to support. So that people don&#8217;t have to search up info on what client that is the most efficient and does the best job. Nobody really cares until they have to. They consider their free time more important than download efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: dwarf_toss</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwarf_toss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rarst:

uTorrent is much better at the job, and I&#039;ll bet much more efficient. I&#039;d love to hear how much RAM Opera chews on while dealing with 10 or more torrents running at the same time. This is why I find it to be a silly feature, but i guess it gets the newbies feet wet? I&#039;d rather have something not present than have to disable it: the feature&#039;s code is still unnecessary (imnsho) and taking up space.

I meant by &quot;just anybody&quot; that (I&#039;m assuming here...look out!) this aspect of Unite will enable even those without the intelligence to use the simplest of WYSIWYG interfaces currently available (the ability) to build websites. Since they are getting past the whole &quot;intelligence filter&quot;, the sites will surely be atrocious, on the average. Snobbery, I guess, but some things are best left with a degree of difficulty that makes it prohibitive to those who likely have no asthetic sense or concept of inoffensive web design. Again, Myspace. 

I hope I&#039;m wrong about that, like the sites will be locked away in a gated corner of the internet (Opera sub-domain). At least, I get that sense from the OP&#039;s write-up. One can only hope that by &quot;re-inventing the Internet&quot; that it&#039;s not meant in an eternal september sort of fashion. :o

I will say kudos for not forcing the whole package on everyone. At the very least, it has a modular design going for it.

Also, admittedly, I am basing my bias on an older build. I never installed more than the version I tried...the concept of updating requires some loyalty beyond a casual testing, after all. I will try a newer version though; it seems only fair given this new info, and the fact that I stuck through Firefox 2.x heh.

As I type this, I am using the latest Firefox with no less than 37 addons installed. It consistently uses 92MB with a single window, and uses ~102 with multiple tabs (I never use more than I&#039;d say...10 tabs). I never thought I would install so many addons, but the performance has been great and there REALLY is no reason to scale back since it runs like a Swiss watch! Nothing I&#039;ve tried compares, that simple.

Anyhow, this is my last Opera thread hijack post. Also, this site was not created with Unite. :)</description>
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<p>uTorrent is much better at the job, and I&#8217;ll bet much more efficient. I&#8217;d love to hear how much RAM Opera chews on while dealing with 10 or more torrents running at the same time. This is why I find it to be a silly feature, but i guess it gets the newbies feet wet? I&#8217;d rather have something not present than have to disable it: the feature&#8217;s code is still unnecessary (imnsho) and taking up space.</p>
<p>I meant by &#8220;just anybody&#8221; that (I&#8217;m assuming here&#8230;look out!) this aspect of Unite will enable even those without the intelligence to use the simplest of WYSIWYG interfaces currently available (the ability) to build websites. Since they are getting past the whole &#8220;intelligence filter&#8221;, the sites will surely be atrocious, on the average. Snobbery, I guess, but some things are best left with a degree of difficulty that makes it prohibitive to those who likely have no asthetic sense or concept of inoffensive web design. Again, Myspace. </p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m wrong about that, like the sites will be locked away in a gated corner of the internet (Opera sub-domain). At least, I get that sense from the OP&#8217;s write-up. One can only hope that by &#8220;re-inventing the Internet&#8221; that it&#8217;s not meant in an eternal september sort of fashion. :o</p>
<p>I will say kudos for not forcing the whole package on everyone. At the very least, it has a modular design going for it.</p>
<p>Also, admittedly, I am basing my bias on an older build. I never installed more than the version I tried&#8230;the concept of updating requires some loyalty beyond a casual testing, after all. I will try a newer version though; it seems only fair given this new info, and the fact that I stuck through Firefox 2.x heh.</p>
<p>As I type this, I am using the latest Firefox with no less than 37 addons installed. It consistently uses 92MB with a single window, and uses ~102 with multiple tabs (I never use more than I&#8217;d say&#8230;10 tabs). I never thought I would install so many addons, but the performance has been great and there REALLY is no reason to scale back since it runs like a Swiss watch! Nothing I&#8217;ve tried compares, that simple.</p>
<p>Anyhow, this is my last Opera thread hijack post. Also, this site was not created with Unite. :)</p>
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		<title>By: paolo lim</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828645</link>
		<dc:creator>paolo lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nevertheless, soon, and very soon, .... all other browsers will copy this Brilliant IDEA....</description>
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		<title>By: mehaak</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828627</link>
		<dc:creator>mehaak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think Opera Unite is another great idea opera.</description>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828596</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David

Yep, I got you don&#039;t mean it that literally. Still communication method is not viable if node goes dark as soon as browser shut down. Unite seems to be explicitly designed to be as much server-independent as possible.

I agree it will take some time to see what comes of it. Wrote &quot;brief&quot; post on it - almost thousands words, heh. Will edit and get it live later today.</description>
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<p>Yep, I got you don&#8217;t mean it that literally. Still communication method is not viable if node goes dark as soon as browser shut down. Unite seems to be explicitly designed to be as much server-independent as possible.</p>
<p>I agree it will take some time to see what comes of it. Wrote &#8220;brief&#8221; post on it &#8211; almost thousands words, heh. Will edit and get it live later today.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rarst 

I didnt mean a facebook-esque social networking site. I was thinking more of it eventually either integrating a current instant messenger or developing its own (no doubt the APIs will make good use of that) and then taking a few steps beyond that. Exactly what beyond that? I have no idea. As i said, its the framework for a social platform. I think it will be in development for a few years before we really start to see Unite shine.</description>
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<p>I didnt mean a facebook-esque social networking site. I was thinking more of it eventually either integrating a current instant messenger or developing its own (no doubt the APIs will make good use of that) and then taking a few steps beyond that. Exactly what beyond that? I have no idea. As i said, its the framework for a social platform. I think it will be in development for a few years before we really start to see Unite shine.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ppp

I had to consult Wikipedia so may not be accurate. Allpeers was torrent-based and relied on central server much more than Unite seems to.</description>
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<p>I had to consult Wikipedia so may not be accurate. Allpeers was torrent-based and relied on central server much more than Unite seems to.</p>
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		<title>By: Opera Unite - Computer Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828565</link>
		<dc:creator>Opera Unite - Computer Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ppp</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/16/opera-unite/#comment-828563</link>
		<dc:creator>ppp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>based on original Firefox Allpeers addon?</description>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dwarf_toss

What crude hacks? Associating torrents with whatever you want is few clicks in Opera settings.

If your Opera uses 180Mb on blank launch than there is something seriously wrong with your installation. Which is not uncommon if you changed versions without clean reinstall. I am using Opera since morning, have dozen tabs open and it currently consumes 80Mb.

&quot;Just anybody&quot; was and will make websites if you hadn&#039;t noticed. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dwarf_toss</p>
<p>What crude hacks? Associating torrents with whatever you want is few clicks in Opera settings.</p>
<p>If your Opera uses 180Mb on blank launch than there is something seriously wrong with your installation. Which is not uncommon if you changed versions without clean reinstall. I am using Opera since morning, have dozen tabs open and it currently consumes 80Mb.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just anybody&#8221; was and will make websites if you hadn&#8217;t noticed. :)</p>
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