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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-720865</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read the current reviews of Antivirus Software lately? Norton Antivirus 2009 is the lightest Antivirus in the market. Low disk usage and fast scanning. I also have read reviews from av-comparative.org that Norton has 98.7 total detection rate. fewer false positives and frequently checks for updates. pirated copies are easily caught.

But if you are looking for a FREE antivirus, i would recommend AVIRA Antivir from germany. its free with low memory footprint. Fast scans and has a 99.7 total detection rate. many false positives, but ei its free...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the current reviews of Antivirus Software lately? Norton Antivirus 2009 is the lightest Antivirus in the market. Low disk usage and fast scanning. I also have read reviews from av-comparative.org that Norton has 98.7 total detection rate. fewer false positives and frequently checks for updates. pirated copies are easily caught.</p>
<p>But if you are looking for a FREE antivirus, i would recommend AVIRA Antivir from germany. its free with low memory footprint. Fast scans and has a 99.7 total detection rate. many false positives, but ei its free&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-709835</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norton is a virus in itself, plain and simple. I installed a video codec on my computer and somehow the Norton install file was wrapped around the codec&#039;s install file. Norton Security Scan installed itself on my computer without my knowledge and now I have to download and run their special removal tool to get rid of it. Norton is a SCAM.

Currently I use McAfee, the full package, because my internet provider offered the package for free. Normally I just use AVG, much better antivirus/antispyware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norton is a virus in itself, plain and simple. I installed a video codec on my computer and somehow the Norton install file was wrapped around the codec&#8217;s install file. Norton Security Scan installed itself on my computer without my knowledge and now I have to download and run their special removal tool to get rid of it. Norton is a SCAM.</p>
<p>Currently I use McAfee, the full package, because my internet provider offered the package for free. Normally I just use AVG, much better antivirus/antispyware.</p>
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		<title>By: apollo911</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-699630</link>
		<dc:creator>apollo911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rarst - all these so-called tests are completely artificial - and I can find you one to support virtually any argument.

The Anti-Virus market is worth millions and the truth is that the vast majority of people have no problems at all - virtually all the computers I see infected have peer-to-peer software like the dreaded Limewire which is like taking intravenous drugs in a brothel.

My rant against Norton (and Macafee)is based on day-to-day experience where I find it causing as many problems as it prevents or solves, and the fact that it comes pre-installed on so many computers and most people just stick with it (and pay) because they aren&#039;t aware of their options.

I have no vested interest, it&#039;s just my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rarst &#8211; all these so-called tests are completely artificial &#8211; and I can find you one to support virtually any argument.</p>
<p>The Anti-Virus market is worth millions and the truth is that the vast majority of people have no problems at all &#8211; virtually all the computers I see infected have peer-to-peer software like the dreaded Limewire which is like taking intravenous drugs in a brothel.</p>
<p>My rant against Norton (and Macafee)is based on day-to-day experience where I find it causing as many problems as it prevents or solves, and the fact that it comes pre-installed on so many computers and most people just stick with it (and pay) because they aren&#8217;t aware of their options.</p>
<p>I have no vested interest, it&#8217;s just my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-699608</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Then why is it that Norton consistently rates among the best in the AV-comparatives test&lt;/cite&gt;

Because there is no clear way how to test AV solution. Actually there is no way to directly compare and test most types of software.

You may throw set of few thousands viruses at AV and it will be perfect but user may encounter none of those but something completely different... and undetected.

So is it good antivirus for doing admirably in the test or bad antivirus because of letting real computer get infected?

On information on sites - it&#039;s heavily PR. Meaning companies lie to make their product look good. I hadn&#039;t caught Norton on that (it&#039;s uncommon around here and I rarely check their site) but I had that from Kaspersky (big time).

Lately I strongle suspect viruses are being geo-targeted. NOD32 was one of the best solution two years ago (we use it at work so I have medium-scale impression) but it slowly got worse to the point of being near-useless. Plenty of new viruses slip past it easily.

- there is no way to test AV reliably;
- single breach can have major consequences;
- concept is inherently flawed (there is always time frame between virus release and database update);
- companies lie to look good and resort to bundling and other annoying ways to get their share of pie;

Frankly it is no wonder AV software gets flamed all the time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Then why is it that Norton consistently rates among the best in the AV-comparatives test</cite></p>
<p>Because there is no clear way how to test AV solution. Actually there is no way to directly compare and test most types of software.</p>
<p>You may throw set of few thousands viruses at AV and it will be perfect but user may encounter none of those but something completely different&#8230; and undetected.</p>
<p>So is it good antivirus for doing admirably in the test or bad antivirus because of letting real computer get infected?</p>
<p>On information on sites &#8211; it&#8217;s heavily PR. Meaning companies lie to make their product look good. I hadn&#8217;t caught Norton on that (it&#8217;s uncommon around here and I rarely check their site) but I had that from Kaspersky (big time).</p>
<p>Lately I strongle suspect viruses are being geo-targeted. NOD32 was one of the best solution two years ago (we use it at work so I have medium-scale impression) but it slowly got worse to the point of being near-useless. Plenty of new viruses slip past it easily.</p>
<p>- there is no way to test AV reliably;<br />
- single breach can have major consequences;<br />
- concept is inherently flawed (there is always time frame between virus release and database update);<br />
- companies lie to look good and resort to bundling and other annoying ways to get their share of pie;</p>
<p>Frankly it is no wonder AV software gets flamed all the time. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-699585</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why is it that Norton consistently rates among the best in the AV-comparatives test, 

http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests

and Symantec is the first site to check when trying to rid a computer of a virus or trojan manually.   What other site has such detailed information about what files are loaded and what registry strings are affected.

Note that AV-Comparatives gives the highest rating, advanced+, to Symantec and McAfee, two vendors that most of us consider to be almost a form of spyware or at least nagware because of the numerous dll files they load all over the system (not to mention startup items. (NOD32 also gets an advanced+ rating in the Feb. 2009 report).

I&#039;m not a fan of Norton for the reasons stated previously, and prefer Avira&#039;s Antivir, but try to find detailed information about all viruses on the Avira site.  

Wouldn&#039;t a good uninstaller that monitors the installation - like Zsoft&#039;s Uninstaller or Total Uninstall aid in completely uinstalling all the tracks that Norton has left behind?
Why not just use Autoruns (Sysinternal&#039;s excellent utility) and disable any dll associated with Symantec or Norton?

Has anyone used this Norton scanner yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why is it that Norton consistently rates among the best in the AV-comparatives test, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests" rel="nofollow">http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests</a></p>
<p>and Symantec is the first site to check when trying to rid a computer of a virus or trojan manually.   What other site has such detailed information about what files are loaded and what registry strings are affected.</p>
<p>Note that AV-Comparatives gives the highest rating, advanced+, to Symantec and McAfee, two vendors that most of us consider to be almost a form of spyware or at least nagware because of the numerous dll files they load all over the system (not to mention startup items. (NOD32 also gets an advanced+ rating in the Feb. 2009 report).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of Norton for the reasons stated previously, and prefer Avira&#8217;s Antivir, but try to find detailed information about all viruses on the Avira site.  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t a good uninstaller that monitors the installation &#8211; like Zsoft&#8217;s Uninstaller or Total Uninstall aid in completely uinstalling all the tracks that Norton has left behind?<br />
Why not just use Autoruns (Sysinternal&#8217;s excellent utility) and disable any dll associated with Symantec or Norton?</p>
<p>Has anyone used this Norton scanner yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-697577</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Rarst and apollo911 - Cureit for me or avira boot disc. I have removed too much malware from Norton &quot;protected&quot; computers recentley to think about scanning with Norton.
I might not say its as bad as CANCER but I always take NOrton from peoples computers too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Rarst and apollo911 &#8211; Cureit for me or avira boot disc. I have removed too much malware from Norton &#8220;protected&#8221; computers recentley to think about scanning with Norton.<br />
I might not say its as bad as CANCER but I always take NOrton from peoples computers too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-697109</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;They don’t update it with last virus bases, but I saw instructions on how to push updates to the ISO on some forum.&lt;/cite&gt;

That sounds so convenient. :) DrWeb LiveCD suffers from same updates issue, it can update by network at least.

I have yet to check LiveCD from Kaspersky.

&lt;cite&gt;Norton leaves much to much hooks in your system and is very hard to remove&lt;/cite&gt;

Native removal tool (SymNRT) does pretty good job cleaning up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>They don’t update it with last virus bases, but I saw instructions on how to push updates to the ISO on some forum.</cite></p>
<p>That sounds so convenient. :) DrWeb LiveCD suffers from same updates issue, it can update by network at least.</p>
<p>I have yet to check LiveCD from Kaspersky.</p>
<p><cite>Norton leaves much to much hooks in your system and is very hard to remove</cite></p>
<p>Native removal tool (SymNRT) does pretty good job cleaning up.</p>
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		<title>By: apollo911</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696808</link>
		<dc:creator>apollo911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who cleans infected PCs for a living,
the first thing I always do is remove any Norton products.

They are like a cancer spreading throughout the system and cause as many problems as they solve, in my exerience.

The ONLY reason they are so &#039;popular&#039; is bcause of the trial bloatware that is installed on so many new computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who cleans infected PCs for a living,<br />
the first thing I always do is remove any Norton products.</p>
<p>They are like a cancer spreading throughout the system and cause as many problems as they solve, in my exerience.</p>
<p>The ONLY reason they are so &#8216;popular&#8217; is bcause of the trial bloatware that is installed on so many new computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul(us).</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696517</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul(us).</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norton leaves much to much hooks in your system and is very hard to remove (next to that i read (allmost only) very (very)much bad press about Norton). The Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool 7.0.0.290 is much more sensitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norton leaves much to much hooks in your system and is very hard to remove (next to that i read (allmost only) very (very)much bad press about Norton). The Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool 7.0.0.290 is much more sensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman ShaRP</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696492</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman ShaRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Except that their scanner requires installation which makes it useless in most situations and probably impossible to run from LiveCD.&lt;/i&gt;

http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

They don&#039;t update it with last virus bases, but I saw instructions on how to push updates to the ISO on some forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Except that their scanner requires installation which makes it useless in most situations and probably impossible to run from LiveCD.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/</a></p>
<p>They don&#8217;t update it with last virus bases, but I saw instructions on how to push updates to the ISO on some forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696235</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Dr. Web Cureit sucks! it’s detection rate is soooo low that it’s useless.&lt;/cite&gt;

And this is based on what? As for me it detection rate is perfectly fine.

&lt;cite&gt;Kaspersky is better&lt;/cite&gt;

Except that their scanner requires installation which makes it useless in most situations and probably impossible to run from LiveCD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Dr. Web Cureit sucks! it’s detection rate is soooo low that it’s useless.</cite></p>
<p>And this is based on what? As for me it detection rate is perfectly fine.</p>
<p><cite>Kaspersky is better</cite></p>
<p>Except that their scanner requires installation which makes it useless in most situations and probably impossible to run from LiveCD.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696176</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second CureIt, it is best free scanner I know. Praising it at my blog all the time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second CureIt, it is best free scanner I know. Praising it at my blog all the time. :)</p>
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		<title>By: frodo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696092</link>
		<dc:creator>frodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Web Cureit sucks! it&#039;s detection rate is soooo low that it&#039;s useless.

Kaspersky is better.

If you know something about viruses you have to look at how McAfee is performing lately. 

Norton is now one of the lightest on resources antivirus nowadays but it&#039;s detection rate is not that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Web Cureit sucks! it&#8217;s detection rate is soooo low that it&#8217;s useless.</p>
<p>Kaspersky is better.</p>
<p>If you know something about viruses you have to look at how McAfee is performing lately. </p>
<p>Norton is now one of the lightest on resources antivirus nowadays but it&#8217;s detection rate is not that good.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman ShaRP</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696066</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman ShaRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well it’s more of a download, install, run, uninstall tool than anything else and quite uncomplicated to use.&lt;/i&gt;

Dr.Web CureIt, Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool and Clamwin  are too. :) And Clamwin works well with any other AV because it doesn&#039;t inject it&#039;s modules into system.

And CureIt even doesn&#039;t require installation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well it’s more of a download, install, run, uninstall tool than anything else and quite uncomplicated to use.</i></p>
<p>Dr.Web CureIt, Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool and Clamwin  are too. :) And Clamwin works well with any other AV because it doesn&#8217;t inject it&#8217;s modules into system.</p>
<p>And CureIt even doesn&#8217;t require installation.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-696016</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s more of a download, install, run, uninstall tool than anything else and quite uncomplicated to use. Not that I&#039;m very fond of Norton products either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s more of a download, install, run, uninstall tool than anything else and quite uncomplicated to use. Not that I&#8217;m very fond of Norton products either.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-695996</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally do not trust Norton products.  Too many backdoor issues.

I&#039;ve found McAfee and Avira works well together on the same PC (XP Pro and Vista).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally do not trust Norton products.  Too many backdoor issues.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found McAfee and Avira works well together on the same PC (XP Pro and Vista).</p>
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		<title>By: Roman ShaRP</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/25/norton-security-scan/#comment-695992</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman ShaRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... Norton? Tell me why? 
You can use more useful free tools, like Dr.Web CureIt or Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool {and many other free antiviruses}.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; Norton? Tell me why?<br />
You can use more useful free tools, like Dr.Web CureIt or Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool {and many other free antiviruses}.</p>
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