Comments on: Ecomorph + E17 = Coolest Desktop Ever! http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/ A technology blog covering software, mobile phones, gadgets, security, the Internet and other relevant areas. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:05:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: TheDarkMaster http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-712105 TheDarkMaster Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:44:17 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-712105 Hallo everyone, I'm writing here this comment because there is a lot of confusion about this, and what's reported is wrong. You write: ---- It wasn’t until Elive developer Thanatermesis put in the necessary time to develop a special version of Ecomorph which consists of a special version of Compiz and a special version of E17 that are able to work together. ---- You must be joking. ELive has nothing to do with Ecomorph, they did nothing about it. Ecomorph is a software by Hannes Janetzek and yes, it is an hack of Compiz, able of running compiz on Enlightenment. No user or developer from Elive took part in the development process. DaveMDS has made most of the config dialogs for E17. Both Hannes and Dave are in the OpenGEU Team. Nothing related with Elive at all. While Ecomorph was still in development, the ELive team used the code to create Elive Compiz (and tha's all OK, echo and compiz are opensource of course, so anyone can implement ecomorph in his distro), the OpenGEU Team, instead, waited for a release of the distro to be sure that Ecomorph had reached an appropriate development level and stability (and testing period) to be officially presented to the public, as a technological preview of course, Ecomorph is still in development. That's the real story. The fact that Elive included Ecomorph into the distro for first doesn't mean that Ecomorph belongs to Elive at all! Please correct this information because OpenSOurce doesn't mean that anyone can claim he is the author of the software, it just means that he can use and redistribute that software. Beside that, I can suggest anyone complaining about the fact that Elive is Debian and not Ubuntu, that OpenGEU is out there for that exact reason. It is a good solution if you wish to have the beauty of Enlightenment and the power and flexibility of Ubuntu and its repos. Plus, OpenGEU is not only pure Enlightenment. In its standard configuration, OpenGEU is a very usable system, completing E17 with pieces of gnome. If you wish, though, thanks to our new default configurations tool, you can choose whether you prefer a Vanilla E or OpenGEU's default custom config. Of course, like kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop, opengeu-desktop can be added to any *Buntu derivate or version. You just need to add our repos. Of course, Ecomorph has been included in OpenGEU and you can use it and test it yourself without having to change your distro. OpenGEU will add an Enlightenment and an e17 Ecomorph session to your sessions list in GDM or KDM. That said, the name Elive Compiz itself is not so nice IMHO... because Ecomorph is not mentioned in the name. It was very hard for Hannes to develop it. Please give credit to the real authors. Hallo everyone, I’m writing here this comment because there is a lot of confusion about this, and what’s reported is wrong. You write:

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It wasn’t until Elive developer Thanatermesis put in the necessary time to develop a special version of Ecomorph which consists of a special version of Compiz and a special version of E17 that are able to work together.
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You must be joking. ELive has nothing to do with Ecomorph, they did nothing about it. Ecomorph is a software by Hannes Janetzek and yes, it is an hack of Compiz, able of running compiz on Enlightenment. No user or developer from Elive took part in the development process. DaveMDS has made most of the config dialogs for E17.

Both Hannes and Dave are in the OpenGEU Team. Nothing related with Elive at all. While Ecomorph was still in development, the ELive team used the code to create Elive Compiz (and tha’s all OK, echo and compiz are opensource of course, so anyone can implement ecomorph in his distro), the OpenGEU Team, instead, waited for a release of the distro to be sure that Ecomorph had reached an appropriate development level and stability (and testing period) to be officially presented to the public, as a technological preview of course, Ecomorph is still in development.

That’s the real story. The fact that Elive included Ecomorph into the distro for first doesn’t mean that Ecomorph belongs to Elive at all! Please correct this information because OpenSOurce doesn’t mean that anyone can claim he is the author of the software, it just means that he can use and redistribute that software.

Beside that, I can suggest anyone complaining about the fact that Elive is Debian and not Ubuntu, that OpenGEU is out there for that exact reason. It is a good solution if you wish to have the beauty of Enlightenment and the power and flexibility of Ubuntu and its repos. Plus, OpenGEU is not only pure Enlightenment. In its standard configuration, OpenGEU is a very usable system, completing E17 with pieces of gnome. If you wish, though, thanks to our new default configurations tool, you can choose whether you prefer a Vanilla E or OpenGEU’s default custom config.

Of course, like kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop, opengeu-desktop can be added to any *Buntu derivate or version. You just need to add our repos. Of course, Ecomorph has been included in OpenGEU and you can use it and test it yourself without having to change your distro. OpenGEU will add an Enlightenment and an e17 Ecomorph session to your sessions list in GDM or KDM.

That said, the name Elive Compiz itself is not so nice IMHO… because Ecomorph is not mentioned in the name. It was very hard for Hannes to develop it. Please give credit to the real authors.

]]> By: iv http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-653792 iv Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:15:41 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-653792 Thanks for this one... works like a charm. It's not bulletproof stable but I'm running it for a couple of days and had but one segfault. Btw, it's gliding smoothly on nvidia 5200 LE. Just had to kill the burn effect, was a bit of a overkill :) Thanks for this one… works like a charm. It’s not bulletproof stable but I’m running it for a couple of days and had but one segfault.

Btw, it’s gliding smoothly on nvidia 5200 LE. Just had to kill the burn effect, was a bit of a overkill :)

]]> By: jack http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-653287 jack Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:31:13 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-653287 kpaso: not sure what you mean. this is a free operating system so there is no trial offer. you can download it for free and just use it. if by trial you mean use it before you install it, you can do that. it's a live cd so you just run the operating system from the disk. if you like it then you can click the installer button on the panel to install it. kpaso: not sure what you mean. this is a free operating system so there is no trial offer. you can download it for free and just use it. if by trial you mean use it before you install it, you can do that. it’s a live cd so you just run the operating system from the disk. if you like it then you can click the installer button on the panel to install it.

]]> By: kpaso http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-652733 kpaso Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:44:43 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-652733 Interesting OS. Too bad you there is no trial offer for it. It is a new OS and sounds promising but I'd rather dwnload it with a trial offer tx Interesting OS. Too bad you there is no trial offer for it. It is a new OS and sounds promising but I’d rather dwnload it with a trial offer tx

]]> By: Peter http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-651286 Peter Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:15:33 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-651286 Thanks for showing the startscreen of the EVE-ONLINE client! CCP 4tw! :) Thanks for showing the startscreen of the EVE-ONLINE client!

CCP 4tw! :)

]]> By: Paul(us) http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-650254 Paul(us) Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:38:41 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-650254 Why is the girl, in the movie lifting her breast? I am very impressed it looks beter than main Suse Linux. When the stability is the same as Suze linux, i switch over. Why is the girl, in the movie lifting her breast?
I am very impressed it looks beter than main Suse Linux. When the stability is the same as Suze linux, i switch over.

]]> By: jack http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-650219 jack Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-650219 gokudomatic: this is a debian-based system so you can have apt-get still. and yes, you can have E17 on nearly any distro, but not this version of E17. gokudomatic: this is a debian-based system so you can have apt-get still. and yes, you can have E17 on nearly any distro, but not this version of E17.

]]> By: gokudomatic http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-650195 gokudomatic Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:17:08 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-650195 why? ubuntu is not just gnome. We're talking here about graphical interface only. I won't lose my apt-get and all my admin tools just for an eye-candy screen. Furthermore, E17 can run on Ubuntu, Fedora or whatever. Not point to dump a distribution just for a matter of desktop manager. why? ubuntu is not just gnome. We’re talking here about graphical interface only. I won’t lose my apt-get and all my admin tools just for an eye-candy screen. Furthermore, E17 can run on Ubuntu, Fedora or whatever.

Not point to dump a distribution just for a matter of desktop manager.

]]> By: Gyshall http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/20/ecomorph-e17-coolest-desktop-ever/#comment-650174 Gyshall Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:27:56 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=10677#comment-650174 I'll officially be dumping Ubuntu if this gets stable enough... E17 is awesome. I’ll officially be dumping Ubuntu if this gets stable enough… E17 is awesome.

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