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		<title>By: marinheiro</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-889650</link>
		<dc:creator>marinheiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe it&#039;s for a good cause, but, in my case, it&#039;s a big pile of shit... 

i&#039;m a programmer and i use a bunch of small files (2, 4, 5kb) but exfat uses 128kb of the disk to store them... resuming, i&#039;ve 56.2gb in files that are occupying 86.8gb!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe it&#8217;s for a good cause, but, in my case, it&#8217;s a big pile of shit&#8230; </p>
<p>i&#8217;m a programmer and i use a bunch of small files (2, 4, 5kb) but exfat uses 128kb of the disk to store them&#8230; resuming, i&#8217;ve 56.2gb in files that are occupying 86.8gb!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-829120</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can exFat be seen in dos ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can exFat be seen in dos ??</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-826567</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOESNT WORK!!!!!Help me!!! i have 3 days arround this fuckin problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOESNT WORK!!!!!Help me!!! i have 3 days arround this fuckin problem</p>
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		<title>By: Mercy</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-644291</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I have to do anything extra its worth using it,but for me available space in my device itself seems to be extra :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I have to do anything extra its worth using it,but for me available space in my device itself seems to be extra :-)</p>
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		<title>By: scientus</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-637398</link>
		<dc:creator>scientus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gokudomatic: for ext3 for windows, this works just fine, esp when you forget a certain file on your linux partition. http://www.fs-driver.org/ i havent used it in a year, but at that time the only downside was that journaling was not enabled using the windows side, so if something got messed up while you were using it, the fs would just revert back to the last time you booted linux ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gokudomatic: for ext3 for windows, this works just fine, esp when you forget a certain file on your linux partition. <a href="http://www.fs-driver.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fs-driver.org/</a> i havent used it in a year, but at that time the only downside was that journaling was not enabled using the windows side, so if something got messed up while you were using it, the fs would just revert back to the last time you booted linux ;)</p>
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		<title>By: exFAT File System Driver for Windows XP</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-637179</link>
		<dc:creator>exFAT File System Driver for Windows XP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reult</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-626259</link>
		<dc:creator>Reult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Write/read access in MB/s to a NTFS USB-flash becomes slow as cluster size is chosen small. Typically the flash is accessible not more than some thousands times a second and this fact reduces the speed of it.

But if to choose cluster size, say, 64 kB, then at a speed of 15 MB/s (write) only 15 * 16 = 240, or less than 10% of max., writes are needed, thus reducing the speed just by the same low percentage.

The standard 4 kB cluster size reduces the speed twice or even more. Fragmented files show, surely, the worst speeds. To prevent this, exFAT is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Write/read access in MB/s to a NTFS USB-flash becomes slow as cluster size is chosen small. Typically the flash is accessible not more than some thousands times a second and this fact reduces the speed of it.</p>
<p>But if to choose cluster size, say, 64 kB, then at a speed of 15 MB/s (write) only 15 * 16 = 240, or less than 10% of max., writes are needed, thus reducing the speed just by the same low percentage.</p>
<p>The standard 4 kB cluster size reduces the speed twice or even more. Fragmented files show, surely, the worst speeds. To prevent this, exFAT is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: devlin19</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-626144</link>
		<dc:creator>devlin19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jake if I have to do anything extra its ot worth it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jake if I have to do anything extra its ot worth it</p>
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		<title>By: MakeMoneyFastAndEasy</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-624152</link>
		<dc:creator>MakeMoneyFastAndEasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can change any fat32 usb key to ntfs file system..you don&#039;t need split files on 4gb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can change any fat32 usb key to ntfs file system..you don&#8217;t need split files on 4gb.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623848</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doc:
FAT32 has a FILE limit size of 4GB, some programs impose a file limit of 2GB like the older win9x AVI format.
Just recently I wrote a 57G byte backup image to my 1TByte FAT32 formated external USB drive and it was split into just under 4GByte files.

General comment on the new exFAT format, I imagine that the exFAT system also does not support journaling like NTFS does so will have same FAT32 vulnerability to improper shutdown or removal resulting in the need for a scandisk in pre-vista operating systems or disk check in vista and above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doc:<br />
FAT32 has a FILE limit size of 4GB, some programs impose a file limit of 2GB like the older win9x AVI format.<br />
Just recently I wrote a 57G byte backup image to my 1TByte FAT32 formated external USB drive and it was split into just under 4GByte files.</p>
<p>General comment on the new exFAT format, I imagine that the exFAT system also does not support journaling like NTFS does so will have same FAT32 vulnerability to improper shutdown or removal resulting in the need for a scandisk in pre-vista operating systems or disk check in vista and above.</p>
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		<title>By: Window XP Repair Utilities</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623467</link>
		<dc:creator>Window XP Repair Utilities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Windows XP exFAT File System Driver Microsoft has released an update for Windows XP SP2 and SP3 system that adds exFAT file system drivers to the operating system. The exFAT file system is &#8230;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Windows XP exFAT File System Driver Microsoft has released an update for Windows XP SP2 and SP3 system that adds exFAT file system drivers to the operating system. The exFAT file system is &#8230;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gokudomatic</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623412</link>
		<dc:creator>gokudomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jake:
Alas, a lot of times. DVD iso files, I&#039;m sure you know that.
And that doesn&#039;t concern only usb sticks, but also shared partitions between Windows and Linux.

But I use now NTFS because it works well enough now in Linux. I can write without fearing a total break.

But still, I&#039;m more interested in ext3 driver for windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jake:<br />
Alas, a lot of times. DVD iso files, I&#8217;m sure you know that.<br />
And that doesn&#8217;t concern only usb sticks, but also shared partitions between Windows and Linux.</p>
<p>But I use now NTFS because it works well enough now in Linux. I can write without fearing a total break.</p>
<p>But still, I&#8217;m more interested in ext3 driver for windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use FAT32 for one simple reason. I can plug in a drive into almost any OS (Windows, OSX, Linux, and so on) and be able to not only read the file, but write to the drive without doing anything special. The moment I have to install anything to make it compatible with whatever system I am trying to us make is pointless to use FAT as all. The whole reason to use FAT32 is because it just works. The size limit can be a pain, but how often are you moving a file that large anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use FAT32 for one simple reason. I can plug in a drive into almost any OS (Windows, OSX, Linux, and so on) and be able to not only read the file, but write to the drive without doing anything special. The moment I have to install anything to make it compatible with whatever system I am trying to us make is pointless to use FAT as all. The whole reason to use FAT32 is because it just works. The size limit can be a pain, but how often are you moving a file that large anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623376</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;removal of the 4 GB file size limit&quot;

FAT32 has a file size limit of 2GB, not 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;removal of the 4 GB file size limit&#8221;</p>
<p>FAT32 has a file size limit of 2GB, not 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The exFAT system was not developed for current flash media, but for the SDXC card with up to 2TB coming by this March.  If you want to learn more, google &quot;SDXC card&quot;.  

http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exFAT system was not developed for current flash media, but for the SDXC card with up to 2TB coming by this March.  If you want to learn more, google &#8220;SDXC card&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc" rel="nofollow">http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Transcontinental</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623290</link>
		<dc:creator>Transcontinental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charax, I was wondering the same thing. I just tried to read the ExFAT formatted (and filled) USB stick on my neighbor&#039;s computer, and the stick appeared to be not formatted... so, it may be a security benefit, but not in terms of universality at this time ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charax, I was wondering the same thing. I just tried to read the ExFAT formatted (and filled) USB stick on my neighbor&#8217;s computer, and the stick appeared to be not formatted&#8230; so, it may be a security benefit, but not in terms of universality at this time ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Charax</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623286</link>
		<dc:creator>Charax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t an exFAT-formatted USB stick be unreadable in most operating systems (all XP ones without this system driver and all Vista pre-SP1 systems)?

In that case unless you&#039;re only using your USB stick on your own systems, formatting it in exFAT seems like a phenomenally bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t an exFAT-formatted USB stick be unreadable in most operating systems (all XP ones without this system driver and all Vista pre-SP1 systems)?</p>
<p>In that case unless you&#8217;re only using your USB stick on your own systems, formatting it in exFAT seems like a phenomenally bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Transcontinental</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623276</link>
		<dc:creator>Transcontinental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ExFAT has disadvantages on NTFS, but none, on the opposite, on FAT32 and moreover FAT, is that correct?
I&#039;ve just installed this ExFAT driver, and formatting a USB key proposed indeed ExFAT as well as previous FAT and FAT32. All seems correct at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ExFAT has disadvantages on NTFS, but none, on the opposite, on FAT32 and moreover FAT, is that correct?<br />
I&#8217;ve just installed this ExFAT driver, and formatting a USB key proposed indeed ExFAT as well as previous FAT and FAT32. All seems correct at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623272</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well devices that are using the exfat file system cannot use Readyboost. The NTFS system supports advanced data structures among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well devices that are using the exfat file system cannot use Readyboost. The NTFS system supports advanced data structures among other things.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkGenesis</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/29/windows-xp-exfat-file-system-driver/#comment-623232</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkGenesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: &quot; but also a few disadvantages in comparison to both the FAT32 and NTFS&quot;

What ares theses few disadvantages ? I don&#039;t find anything about that in the MS article ?

Thank you in advance Martin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: &#8221; but also a few disadvantages in comparison to both the FAT32 and NTFS&#8221;</p>
<p>What ares theses few disadvantages ? I don&#8217;t find anything about that in the MS article ?</p>
<p>Thank you in advance Martin.</p>
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