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	<title>Comments on: Why I&#8217;m not switching to Firefox 3 just yet</title>
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		<title>By: JbRd</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-603617</link>
		<dc:creator>JbRd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swithed to seamonkey</description>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-392005</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since I got Firefox 3, I&#039;ve been getting SO many internet crashes that I can&#039;t even count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since I got Firefox 3, I&#8217;ve been getting SO many internet crashes that I can&#8217;t even count.</p>
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		<title>By: Globetrotter</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-386631</link>
		<dc:creator>Globetrotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like FF3, and got all my add-ons working again. However, I only have ONE concern... although I love the new awesome location bar, it calls up history from secure sites as well! So if you use gmail which is on https , anyone that uses that computer after you can see the subjects of every single email you typed. Yes, they can&#039;t access it (if you logged out) but they can still view the subjects of the email in history. This to me is quite a serious security concern. 

There must be a way you can at least quickly switch off the location bar&#039;s ability to call up history if you e.g. visit an internet cafe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like FF3, and got all my add-ons working again. However, I only have ONE concern&#8230; although I love the new awesome location bar, it calls up history from secure sites as well! So if you use gmail which is on https , anyone that uses that computer after you can see the subjects of every single email you typed. Yes, they can&#8217;t access it (if you logged out) but they can still view the subjects of the email in history. This to me is quite a serious security concern. </p>
<p>There must be a way you can at least quickly switch off the location bar&#8217;s ability to call up history if you e.g. visit an internet cafe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Clerte</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-383847</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Clerte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have upgraded to 3 beta because the Firebugs addon is WAY better than the previous versions.

Well that&#039;s me, I&#039;m the kinda guy that installs beta versions onto production servers :0

hehehe ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have upgraded to 3 beta because the Firebugs addon is WAY better than the previous versions.</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s me, I&#8217;m the kinda guy that installs beta versions onto production servers :0</p>
<p>hehehe ;)</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-382298</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it is in a way (you still see those ads in UK newspapers, by the way), but if you&#039;re working in Firefox and want to fire up Photoshop at the same time, it&#039;s quite handy to be able to release that chunk of memory, while PS grinds up to speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it is in a way (you still see those ads in UK newspapers, by the way), but if you&#8217;re working in Firefox and want to fire up Photoshop at the same time, it&#8217;s quite handy to be able to release that chunk of memory, while PS grinds up to speed.</p>
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		<title>By: avoidz</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-382289</link>
		<dc:creator>avoidz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like those &quot;Internet speed boosters&quot; we used to hear about years and years ago, which did very little to nothing to improve performance. But hey, if it works for you, go for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like those &#8220;Internet speed boosters&#8221; we used to hear about years and years ago, which did very little to nothing to improve performance. But hey, if it works for you, go for it!</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-382268</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite easy to make &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencetext.com/make-firefox-load-faster.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Firefox release its grip on memory&lt;/a&gt;, apply the hack and then when you feel it&#039;s getting out of control, simply minimize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite easy to make <a href="http://www.sciencetext.com/make-firefox-load-faster.html" rel="nofollow">Firefox release its grip on memory</a>, apply the hack and then when you feel it&#8217;s getting out of control, simply minimize it.</p>
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		<title>By: avoidz</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-382218</link>
		<dc:creator>avoidz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You people...&quot; - That all-too-familiar arrogant opener.

Hard to say about the memory issues; Firefox still gets up around the 90-100MB mark, but I think that&#039;s to be expected with six or more tabs open, and after several hours browsing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You people&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; That all-too-familiar arrogant opener.</p>
<p>Hard to say about the memory issues; Firefox still gets up around the 90-100MB mark, but I think that&#8217;s to be expected with six or more tabs open, and after several hours browsing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-381846</link>
		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw: Has FF3 really fixed the memory issues recognized in earlier versions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw: Has FF3 really fixed the memory issues recognized in earlier versions?</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-381845</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You people just don&#039;t get it&quot; - such a pleasant tone to take, BillyG. &quot;You people&quot;, indeed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You people just don&#8217;t get it&#8221; &#8211; such a pleasant tone to take, BillyG. &#8220;You people&#8221;, indeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BillyG</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-381448</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people just don&#039;t get it - I use FF specifically because of the add-ons I choose. The FACT that 60+ of mine didn&#039;t work left me no reason to keep using what to me is an inferior product vs. FF2.

Just because your add-ons work has absolutely nothing to do with mine, unless they were the same, and apparently, they aren&#039;t. 

I also said that I tried the &#039;force&#039; tweak, and no it didn&#039;t work for me on my box. You do know no 2 boxes are the same, right? 

As to &#039;if they don&#039;t work by now, they prolly never will&#039;, well I guess I&#039;ll just be sticking with what&#039;s good for me then: 2.0.0.14.

It&#039;s funny how I had to dig around for that sucker too after I blindly immediately deleted the earlier version upon dl&#039;ing FF3, but you can bet I won&#039;t be making that mistake again with any software.

First it was M$, then Google and their shenanigans, and now it&#039;s Mozilla and their millions from Google. Man, if lightening speed Opera ever had the plugins I use with FF, I&#039;d be so gone from Mozilla&#039;s open-source, closed core software (nice call Rarst!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people just don&#8217;t get it &#8211; I use FF specifically because of the add-ons I choose. The FACT that 60+ of mine didn&#8217;t work left me no reason to keep using what to me is an inferior product vs. FF2.</p>
<p>Just because your add-ons work has absolutely nothing to do with mine, unless they were the same, and apparently, they aren&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I also said that I tried the &#8216;force&#8217; tweak, and no it didn&#8217;t work for me on my box. You do know no 2 boxes are the same, right? </p>
<p>As to &#8216;if they don&#8217;t work by now, they prolly never will&#8217;, well I guess I&#8217;ll just be sticking with what&#8217;s good for me then: 2.0.0.14.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how I had to dig around for that sucker too after I blindly immediately deleted the earlier version upon dl&#8217;ing FF3, but you can bet I won&#8217;t be making that mistake again with any software.</p>
<p>First it was M$, then Google and their shenanigans, and now it&#8217;s Mozilla and their millions from Google. Man, if lightening speed Opera ever had the plugins I use with FF, I&#8217;d be so gone from Mozilla&#8217;s open-source, closed core software (nice call Rarst!).</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380730</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add-ons not working is as good a reason as any to upgrade, it gives you the chance to strip down your install to the bare essentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add-ons not working is as good a reason as any to upgrade, it gives you the chance to strip down your install to the bare essentials.</p>
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		<title>By: My Firefox 3 Switching Experience</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380621</link>
		<dc:creator>My Firefox 3 Switching Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] told everyone yesterday why he would wait another month or so before he would make the switch from Firefox 2 to Firefox 3 and I thought I share my Firefox 3 switching experience with everyone. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] told everyone yesterday why he would wait another month or so before he would make the switch from Firefox 2 to Firefox 3 and I thought I share my Firefox 3 switching experience with everyone. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sridhar Katakam</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380552</link>
		<dc:creator>Sridhar Katakam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it laughable that some of you aren&#039;t installing Firefox 3.0 just because some add-ons aren&#039;t working. Did you guys even try upgrading the incompatible add-on&#039;s max version number either manually or via MR Tech tools add-on?

I have 21 add-ons installed and running just fine in Firefox 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it laughable that some of you aren&#8217;t installing Firefox 3.0 just because some add-ons aren&#8217;t working. Did you guys even try upgrading the incompatible add-on&#8217;s max version number either manually or via MR Tech tools add-on?</p>
<p>I have 21 add-ons installed and running just fine in Firefox 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Please be careful, author. This article indirectly implies that somehow Firefox 3 is *bad,*

Really? I think it doesn&#039;t and I am far from Firefox fan.

&gt;Allot of people put a great deal of work into making a new, more powerful tool for you and everyone else to use, and AT ABSOLUTELY NO COST!

And those people are making very nice money while at it. It&#039;s hardly self-sacrifice.

&gt;As a reader, I’m excited to see new opinions, but please let those be well thoguht out, *informed* opinions!

Any opinion is fine as long as it praises Firefox. :)
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On topic I wanted to add that it&#039;s really not open-closed source issue... It&#039;s more of open-closed system issue.

Firefox is a mix of open possibilities through extension systems and &quot;closed&quot; core. Yes, it&#039;s open source bla-bla-bla but it&#039;s not like end user has a lot of influence over it. Try to make your own fork and suddenly you are crossing trademarks and need to change everything so none except geeks would be able recognize it as Firefox fork.

Radically change core plugin framework in commercial app and your customers will bite your head off. But open source project can get away with it easily on &quot;they are working for free&quot; excuse. Except that &quot;free&quot; part is usually very untrue for big projects.

I always considered extensions main &quot;selling&quot; point of Firefox. I think developers had their reasons but it&#039;s still very weird to see that system slightly broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Please be careful, author. This article indirectly implies that somehow Firefox 3 is *bad,*</p>
<p>Really? I think it doesn&#8217;t and I am far from Firefox fan.</p>
<p>&gt;Allot of people put a great deal of work into making a new, more powerful tool for you and everyone else to use, and AT ABSOLUTELY NO COST!</p>
<p>And those people are making very nice money while at it. It&#8217;s hardly self-sacrifice.</p>
<p>&gt;As a reader, I’m excited to see new opinions, but please let those be well thoguht out, *informed* opinions!</p>
<p>Any opinion is fine as long as it praises Firefox. :)<br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>On topic I wanted to add that it&#8217;s really not open-closed source issue&#8230; It&#8217;s more of open-closed system issue.</p>
<p>Firefox is a mix of open possibilities through extension systems and &#8220;closed&#8221; core. Yes, it&#8217;s open source bla-bla-bla but it&#8217;s not like end user has a lot of influence over it. Try to make your own fork and suddenly you are crossing trademarks and need to change everything so none except geeks would be able recognize it as Firefox fork.</p>
<p>Radically change core plugin framework in commercial app and your customers will bite your head off. But open source project can get away with it easily on &#8220;they are working for free&#8221; excuse. Except that &#8220;free&#8221; part is usually very untrue for big projects.</p>
<p>I always considered extensions main &#8220;selling&#8221; point of Firefox. I think developers had their reasons but it&#8217;s still very weird to see that system slightly broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380496</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were a few add-ons that didn&#039;t work for me when I installed Firefox 3 (final), but it wasn&#039;t a problem. Like someone else said, it made me think about the add-ons I used and didn&#039;t use. I currently have:

Adblock Plus
ChromeEdit Plus
Flashblock
New Tab Button on Tab Right
Nuke Anything Enhanced
QuickDrag
Show Picture
TinyUrl Creator

The benefits outweigh an extension or two that don&#039;t work just yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a few add-ons that didn&#8217;t work for me when I installed Firefox 3 (final), but it wasn&#8217;t a problem. Like someone else said, it made me think about the add-ons I used and didn&#8217;t use. I currently have:</p>
<p>Adblock Plus<br />
ChromeEdit Plus<br />
Flashblock<br />
New Tab Button on Tab Right<br />
Nuke Anything Enhanced<br />
QuickDrag<br />
Show Picture<br />
TinyUrl Creator</p>
<p>The benefits outweigh an extension or two that don&#8217;t work just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: coco</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380495</link>
		<dc:creator>coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first i had the same feelings as you, however more extensions are updated everyday to FF3 compatible, hence they will be updated sooner or later so just bear with it for a while.

Im currently waiting for 6 exts right now. esp swifttabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first i had the same feelings as you, however more extensions are updated everyday to FF3 compatible, hence they will be updated sooner or later so just bear with it for a while.</p>
<p>Im currently waiting for 6 exts right now. esp swifttabs.</p>
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		<title>By: kramed</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380451</link>
		<dc:creator>kramed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry I moved so quickly. Even though only one of my extensions is not updated (Tab mix plus), the regular crashes without me even touching an input device has me frustrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry I moved so quickly. Even though only one of my extensions is not updated (Tab mix plus), the regular crashes without me even touching an input device has me frustrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/22/why-im-not-switching-to-firefox-3-just-yet/#comment-380415</link>
		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I said last week on one of your FF3 posts - that I would wait until everything got a bit more settled before making the switch.

As to extensions, I have about 60 installed (and of course to my mind, they are all essential at some point or another), otherwise, why would keep them installed?

It would be nice if Mozilla would provide a list (updated daily) of the current status of all extant extensions as to compatibility with FF3.  I want to see if compatible now, dead or alive, and anticipated compatibility date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I said last week on one of your FF3 posts &#8211; that I would wait until everything got a bit more settled before making the switch.</p>
<p>As to extensions, I have about 60 installed (and of course to my mind, they are all essential at some point or another), otherwise, why would keep them installed?</p>
<p>It would be nice if Mozilla would provide a list (updated daily) of the current status of all extant extensions as to compatibility with FF3.  I want to see if compatible now, dead or alive, and anticipated compatibility date.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned above, Firefox 2 Portable can be run on your hard drive independent of Fx 2. You can use that as your testing ground. My only essential extension not yet updated for Fx 3 is Tab Mix Plus and even that one has nighties available which work just fine. And in my testing, leading to the upgrade, I discovered extensions to replace the one not yet updated. For instance, Digger replaced Uppity and Extension List Dumper replaced InfoLister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned above, Firefox 2 Portable can be run on your hard drive independent of Fx 2. You can use that as your testing ground. My only essential extension not yet updated for Fx 3 is Tab Mix Plus and even that one has nighties available which work just fine. And in my testing, leading to the upgrade, I discovered extensions to replace the one not yet updated. For instance, Digger replaced Uppity and Extension List Dumper replaced InfoLister.</p>
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