Comments on: Firefox 3 Location Bar Controversy http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/ A technology blog covering software, mobile phones, gadgets, security, the Internet and other relevant areas. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:46:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: JIm http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-516854 JIm Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:59:42 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-516854 @ SneakyWho_am_i Why not just give the guy some slack, who cares what he's doing, Mozilla should give options to turn the damn thing off, It won't hurt them to do so, reason being is: options are there, just well hid in the about:config file. There should be no reason for people to complain about this. Mozilla is just following the industry standard, of, "We know better than you do, because we are software engineers." To Mozilla, why not make the options easily assessable? I know you put a lot of work into the address bar, but you should know not everyone is going to like it. Just give the Options in the Menu bar would that really hurt that much??????? @ SneakyWho_am_i
Why not just give the guy some slack, who cares what he’s doing, Mozilla should give options to turn the damn thing off, It won’t hurt them to do so, reason being is: options are there, just well hid in the about:config file. There should be no reason for people to complain about this. Mozilla is just following the industry standard, of, “We know better than you do, because we are software engineers.”
To Mozilla, why not make the options easily assessable? I know you put a lot of work into the address bar, but you should know not everyone is going to like it. Just give the Options in the Menu bar would that really hurt that much???????

]]> By: JIm http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-516845 JIm Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:51:27 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-516845 @Jim, Just do a search on about:Config or type this in the address bar about:config click that you will be careful and then find browser.urlbar.maxRichResults set this to zero and it will disable the address bar suggestions. Then restart firefox The suggestions are still there what browser.urlbar.maxRichResults dose is to show zero results thus in effect disabling it. PEACE! Jim P.S. I just downloaded 3.1 beta and it still a no-go for options My advise is if you do not like you HAVE to tell Mozilla, and tell them WHY just don’t tell them you hate it This is their user feedback we link: http://hendrix.mozilla.org/ Again tell them what you don like about it, and what you want it to do, ask for the OPIOID to turn it off in the Menu part of the program. PEACE JIm @Jim,
Just do a search on about:Config or type this in the address bar
about:config
click that you will be careful and then find

browser.urlbar.maxRichResults set this to zero and it will disable the address bar suggestions. Then restart firefox

The suggestions are still there what browser.urlbar.maxRichResults dose is to show zero results thus in effect disabling it.
PEACE!
Jim
P.S. I just downloaded 3.1 beta and it still a no-go for options

My advise is if you do not like you HAVE to tell Mozilla, and tell them WHY just don’t tell them you hate it

This is their user feedback we link:
http://hendrix.mozilla.org/

Again tell them what you don like about it, and what you want it to do, ask for the OPIOID to turn it off in the Menu part of the program.
PEACE
JIm

]]> By: SneakyWho_am_i http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-516548 SneakyWho_am_i Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:35:28 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-516548 Furthermore, if that porn site shows up first every time then it means that you visit it more than any other site (well, at least, any site which you access with a normally unnecessary "www.") .. If that is the case (the implication here is that you spend most of your online time looking at porn) then maybe it would be more convenient for you to just not hide what you're doing online - regardless of how the address bar behaves. Furthermore, if that porn site shows up first every time then it means that you visit it more than any other site (well, at least, any site which you access with a normally unnecessary “www.”)
..

If that is the case (the implication here is that you spend most of your online time looking at porn) then maybe it would be more convenient for you to just not hide what you’re doing online - regardless of how the address bar behaves.

]]> By: SneakyWho_am_i http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-516544 SneakyWho_am_i Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:32:21 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-516544 @Jim who is ashamed of his own actions :P (OK OK I'm sure you've thought about that, but just in case, there it is) When it brings up your history, you can press the down arrow key to highlight an entry, and then press "delete" to remove it from the list. Can you do this to said porn site without it also deleting the bookmark? Anyway, I don't know why you would do something as drastic as downgrading your browser just for the sake of one preference. http://kev.deadsquid.com/?p=684 http://lifehacker.com/396603/tweak-the-awesomebars-suggestion-algorithm If I didn't want images to show up, I wouldn't switch to Lynx, I'd just disable images like a normal person. That's not hard, in fact it's probably easier than getting a different browser. What idiot tells these people that downgrading is easier than just changing a simple preference? Why do they believe it?! @Jim who is ashamed of his own actions :P
(OK OK I’m sure you’ve thought about that, but just in case, there it is)

When it brings up your history, you can press the down arrow key to highlight an entry, and then press “delete” to remove it from the list. Can you do this to said porn site without it also deleting the bookmark?

Anyway, I don’t know why you would do something as drastic as downgrading your browser just for the sake of one preference.
http://kev.deadsquid.com/?p=684
http://lifehacker.com/396603/tweak-the-awesomebars-suggestion-algorithm

If I didn’t want images to show up, I wouldn’t switch to Lynx, I’d just disable images like a normal person. That’s not hard, in fact it’s probably easier than getting a different browser.

What idiot tells these people that downgrading is easier than just changing a simple preference? Why do they believe it?!

]]> By: jim http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-514600 jim Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:57:28 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-514600 Oh and BTW, the "oldbar" add on, just changes the way that the 'awesome' bar magnificently displays my bookmarked porn site. It still displays the pornsite FIRST, and EVERY time that you stary typing in ANYTHING in the address bar. If this doesn't change, I will definitely stop using firefox Oh and BTW, the “oldbar” add on, just changes the way that the ‘awesome’ bar magnificently displays my bookmarked porn site. It still displays the pornsite FIRST, and EVERY time that you stary typing in ANYTHING in the address bar.

If this doesn’t change, I will definitely stop using firefox

]]> By: jim http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-514594 jim Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:52:58 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-514594 I HATE the awesome (ly lame) bar..not because I care about searching from the address bar, but because whenever I start typing 'www...' in the address bar the FIRST thing that appears is my bookmarked PORN site. I buried the porn site in a bookmark subfolder, but it still comes up FIRST in the awesome bar (gag) and it comes up EVERY time. Yeah, that's great firefox. Show everyone who might use FF my favorite pornsite everytime they type an url...THank YOU! Frickin idiots. I HATE the awesome (ly lame) bar..not because I care about searching from the address bar, but because whenever I start typing ‘www…’ in the address bar the FIRST thing that appears is my bookmarked PORN site. I buried the porn site in a bookmark subfolder, but it still comes up FIRST in the awesome bar (gag) and it comes up EVERY time. Yeah, that’s great firefox. Show everyone who might use FF my favorite pornsite everytime they type an url…THank YOU! Frickin idiots.

]]> By: SneakyWho_am_i http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-487121 SneakyWho_am_i Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:52:33 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-487121 I still maintain that it is a great idea.. It's just really bad to look at, and the algorithm they use to populate the list is obviously not what everyone wants. Yeah, know, I DID just mention the only two differences between the new and old version, but that's not the point. " OC says, July 17th, 2008 I _don’t like_ the so called ‘awesome bar’ mainly because it is visually too crowded and thus less efficient for me. I would like to be able to go through the list quickly, as was the case in the former version." This guy (or girl?) has it, you know. All of you saying that you hate it, but you don't know why you hate it - not clever, not cool. But OC is onto something. Personally I love the new algorithm, but the results that come up when I type something really ARE a bit big... It had to be time for a change, though. I memorize urls and the convention a site uses to set said urls. However, none of my friends do it. I know because I get frustrated with them when they have to ask me for the urls to obvious things, and it makes me want to strangle them. What should the bar look like then? Personally, my imagination isn't good enough to pick something other than what we have now and what we had before - what about you guys? I still maintain that it is a great idea.. It’s just really bad to look at, and the algorithm they use to populate the list is obviously not what everyone wants.

Yeah, know, I DID just mention the only two differences between the new and old version, but that’s not the point.

” OC says, July 17th, 2008

I _don’t like_ the so called ‘awesome bar’ mainly because it is visually too crowded and thus less efficient for me. I would like to be able to go through the list quickly, as was the case in the former version.”

This guy (or girl?) has it, you know. All of you saying that you hate it, but you don’t know why you hate it - not clever, not cool. But OC is onto something. Personally I love the new algorithm, but the results that come up when I type something really ARE a bit big…

It had to be time for a change, though. I memorize urls and the convention a site uses to set said urls. However, none of my friends do it. I know because I get frustrated with them when they have to ask me for the urls to obvious things, and it makes me want to strangle them.

What should the bar look like then? Personally, my imagination isn’t good enough to pick something other than what we have now and what we had before - what about you guys?

]]> By: Mike http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-486624 Mike Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:25:11 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-486624 Goodness, I doubt I can even use Firefox anymore with this mindboggling "feature." It should have been an option, and I can't figure out how to get rid of it yet. Back to IE for me until it's fixed... Goodness, I doubt I can even use Firefox anymore with this mindboggling “feature.” It should have been an option, and I can’t figure out how to get rid of it yet. Back to IE for me until it’s fixed…

]]> By: FireFox 3 at Augury http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-479265 FireFox 3 at Augury Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:02:30 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-479265 [...] Some other comments from human beings who have been subjected to this torture: I just downloaded the beta and started using version 3, and this new bar is the worst implementation imaginable of what might actually be a reasonable idea. (I would have to see a good implementation before I can decide on that last part.) [...] [...] Some other comments from human beings who have been subjected to this torture: I just downloaded the beta and started using version 3, and this new bar is the worst implementation imaginable of what might actually be a reasonable idea. (I would have to see a good implementation before I can decide on that last part.) [...]

]]> By: Red Bimbo http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-472932 Red Bimbo Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:39:41 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-472932 And another 'anti' voice here! I say, with regret, that I "upgraded" to FF3 today, after constantly being bugged to do so via pop ups and notifications of some of my add-ons. I then spent an entire 6hrs trying to find ways to get rid of the -I find- most annoying new features. 1st of all: the AwfulBar Here's how I fixed it: go to mozilla and download Old Location Bar 1.3 (NOT oldbar) It doesn't revert things to FF2 version completely, but it appears to be the next best thing out there so far. 2nd gripe: the stupid combined back/forward buttons, which also took away the drop down menu for page history Fix: go to mozilla and download NoUn Buttons Read the reviews if you can't find the icons etc after install...there are some posts with instructions. This too will make it the closest to FF2 I could find so far. Now if someone came up with a way to fix my 3rd gripe, I'd be more than happy: Click on 'bookmark this page' and you get an unmovable pop-up window in the top right corner of your screen. In the old version, the pop-up would be to the left, underneath your menus. And you could move it if you needed to. Oh, and first thing I did was to delete the 'recent bookmarks' and 'tags' folders. And another ‘anti’ voice here!

I say, with regret, that I “upgraded” to FF3 today, after constantly being bugged to do so via pop ups and notifications of some of my add-ons.
I then spent an entire 6hrs trying to find ways to get rid of the -I find- most annoying new features.
1st of all: the AwfulBar
Here’s how I fixed it: go to mozilla and download Old Location Bar 1.3 (NOT oldbar)
It doesn’t revert things to FF2 version completely, but it appears to be the next best thing out there so far.

2nd gripe: the stupid combined back/forward buttons, which also took away the drop down menu for page history
Fix: go to mozilla and download NoUn Buttons
Read the reviews if you can’t find the icons etc after install…there are some posts with instructions.
This too will make it the closest to FF2 I could find so far.

Now if someone came up with a way to fix my 3rd gripe, I’d be more than happy:
Click on ‘bookmark this page’ and you get an unmovable pop-up window in the top right corner of your screen.
In the old version, the pop-up would be to the left, underneath your menus. And you could move it if you needed to.

Oh, and first thing I did was to delete the ‘recent bookmarks’ and ‘tags’ folders.

]]> By: Troels Rasmussen http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-472892 Troels Rasmussen Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:57:46 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-472892 Oh yeah, it also helps along the degeneration of people's mnemonic abilities, as they won't have to remember website urls anymore. Oh yeah, it also helps along the degeneration of people’s mnemonic abilities, as they won’t have to remember website urls anymore.

]]> By: Troels Rasmussen http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-472891 Troels Rasmussen Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:55:14 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-472891 I have a problem with it, because webbrowsing, for me, is a thing of habit. Ttherefore I want FireFox (my main browser) to stay the same. It's ok for Opera to be inventive and clever, but that's because I don't use that daily. In addition Opera's location bar, at first glance, seems to be even cleverer, since it also searches the content of the sites in ones history. However that's not the point. It would have been nice if FireFox had had an option for those who want things to stay the same. The new location bar may be more user-friendly to some, in that they don't have to remember what sites had what content; but for the old users, a change of what they're used isn't very user-friendly (in the beginning at least). The great sorrow, though, is that I (and others) will probably get used to this new feature and learn to either like or just not loathe it. And I hate that. I have a problem with it, because webbrowsing, for me, is a thing of habit. Ttherefore I want FireFox (my main browser) to stay the same. It’s ok for Opera to be inventive and clever, but that’s because I don’t use that daily.

In addition Opera’s location bar, at first glance, seems to be even cleverer, since it also searches the content of the sites in ones history.

However that’s not the point. It would have been nice if FireFox had had an option for those who want things to stay the same.
The new location bar may be more user-friendly to some, in that they don’t have to remember what sites had what content; but for the old users, a change of what they’re used isn’t very user-friendly (in the beginning at least).

The great sorrow, though, is that I (and others) will probably get used to this new feature and learn to either like or just not loathe it. And I hate that.

]]> By: totalrecall http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-469273 totalrecall Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:21:05 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-469273 I like the new location bar. Earlier I had a problem if I knew a part of the URL but not the starting part. Like "ssl" or "pine" or "crypto" will bring up all urls with that part. Maybe they should put URLs that start with the given characters first (higher priority). btw, FF3 is slower, I think, not recommending it to family for that reason. I like the new location bar. Earlier I had a problem if I knew a part of the URL but not the starting part.

Like “ssl” or “pine” or “crypto” will bring up all urls with that part.

Maybe they should put URLs that start with the given characters first (higher priority).

btw, FF3 is slower, I think, not recommending it to family for that reason.

]]> By: Joe http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-466323 Joe Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:20:57 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-466323 I fucking hate the FF3 address bar. I hate how they cluttered up the damn bookmarks too. (I open the bookmarks menu and there are 10 fucking entries before my bookmarks goddamn being. Who is the asshole who thought this up.) I fucking hate the FF3 address bar. I hate how they cluttered up the damn bookmarks too. (I open the bookmarks menu and there are 10 fucking entries before my bookmarks goddamn being. Who is the asshole who thought this up.)

]]> By: Kristi http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-465895 Kristi Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:49:12 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-465895 I vote for the category of giving the user the options of the old and new behavior. I don't want to "train" the darn thing. I trained my dog with biscuits for not peeing on the carpet. I can find my bookmarks and my history all by my little self. What I want is to sit down and go to the location bar and QUICKLY, with out the clutter, read my local newspaper, view the weather radar when a storm is coming, search for items at my local library, along with a couple of other things that total no more than 5. That is all. Wam Bam thank you ma'am. I don't want the links on my desktop. I keep it clean. I appreciate the suggestion of listing issues with hendrix.mozilla.org. We should all do that. I love Firefox. I appreciate what they do for all of us. I just want my uncluttered convenience back. I vote for the category of giving the user the options of the old and new behavior. I don’t want to “train” the darn thing. I trained my dog with biscuits for not peeing on the carpet. I can find my bookmarks and my history all by my little self. What I want is to sit down and go to the location bar and QUICKLY, with out the clutter, read my local newspaper, view the weather radar when a storm is coming, search for items at my local library, along with a couple of other things that total no more than 5. That is all. Wam Bam thank you ma’am. I don’t want the links on my desktop. I keep it clean. I appreciate the suggestion of listing issues with hendrix.mozilla.org. We should all do that. I love Firefox. I appreciate what they do for all of us. I just want my uncluttered convenience back.

]]> By: siege http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-461777 siege Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:01:16 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-461777 The bar is a great freakin' idea, but it's been done completely wrong. It prioritizes the most recently visited pages that match in any way what has been typed, whereas it should first prioritize by the frequency at which one visits the matching pages. The bar is a great freakin’ idea, but it’s been done completely wrong. It prioritizes the most recently visited pages that match in any way what has been typed, whereas it should first prioritize by the frequency at which one visits the matching pages.

]]> By: roland http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-461452 roland Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:16:20 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-461452 I simply hate that new location bar, it is awful and more importantly useless, confuses, and , and, and... In v2 the location bar was good, when I started to type in a link, it started with the shortest link starting with that, the new one seems to be unordered or displaying the most recent one or I don't know, but it is very bad, as I am a developer and I am jumping between urls on the same server. I hope it will be fixed or something... I simply hate that new location bar, it is awful and more importantly useless, confuses, and , and, and… In v2 the location bar was good, when I started to type in a link, it started with the shortest link starting with that, the new one seems to be unordered or displaying the most recent one or I don’t know, but it is very bad, as I am a developer and I am jumping between urls on the same server.

I hope it will be fixed or something…

]]> By: sincity http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-425875 sincity Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:04:41 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-425875 "Stupid complaints from ignorant people" Alex Thats rich coming from you... "but is FireFox, you can change virtually everythhing about it, thats what makes it si wondefull." Alex First off don't be so ignorant, secondly learn to type, thirdly not everyone knows how to write an extension and lastly being able to change virtually everything is what makes it "si wonderfull"... so why are they taking the options away from you, making it less wonderful? “Stupid complaints from ignorant people”
Alex

Thats rich coming from you…

“but is FireFox, you can change virtually everythhing about it, thats what makes it si wondefull.”
Alex

First off don’t be so ignorant, secondly learn to type, thirdly not everyone knows how to write an extension and lastly being able to change virtually everything is what makes it “si wonderfull”… so why are they taking the options away from you, making it less wonderful?

]]> By: Claus http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-422516 Claus Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:56:20 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-422516 ... Which is totally unacceptable btw. Been with FF since the time it was called Phoenix, but when programs start to take control from you it's about time to replace them. … Which is totally unacceptable btw. Been with FF since the time it was called Phoenix, but when programs start to take control from you it’s about time to replace them.

]]> By: Claus http://www.ghacks.net/2008/06/14/firefox-3-location-bar-controversy/#comment-422510 Claus Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:53:24 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/?p=4987#comment-422510 Just typed ctrl+l -> example.com -> enter Faster than my eyes could register :) Ended up at anotherexample.com which was interesting but not what I wanted. Just typed ctrl+l -> example.com -> enter

Faster than my eyes could register :)

Ended up at anotherexample.com which was interesting but not what I wanted.

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