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		<title>By: mr poo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-290912</link>
		<dc:creator>mr poo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also they market their entire product on the basis that Gmail will someday fail and lose all your emails. So they're either lying or seriously underestimating Google. 

You don't think a company with more computing power than any other on the planet would have a few backups of their own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also they market their entire product on the basis that Gmail will someday fail and lose all your emails. So they&#8217;re either lying or seriously underestimating Google. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think a company with more computing power than any other on the planet would have a few backups of their own?</p>
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		<title>By: mr poo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-290911</link>
		<dc:creator>mr poo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ma65p:

I never said it was an email client, I said it's for backing up emails and the reason I say this is because it’s written multiple times on the G-archive site itself: 

"G-Archiver is your one click Gmail backup solution. Backup Gmail email messages to your computer using G-Archiver. Never lose another message - backup Gmail messages and you'll have a stored copy on your computer in the event of Gmail data loss incidents."

The first 3 sentences from the description on the front page all say that G-archiver is used to copy messages from gmails storage to your own hard drive. But if you don't believe that, just look at the screenshots:  http://www.garchiver.com/screenshots.htm

They clearly show NO WAY to copy files from your hard drive to Gmail. They do show a way to download email off of Gmail and onto your hard drive.

Don’t take this the wrong way, but a bit of researching and reading on your part would help. I am aware of programs that copy files to gmail, but this is not one of them. Perhaps you're thinking about something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ma65p:</p>
<p>I never said it was an email client, I said it&#8217;s for backing up emails and the reason I say this is because it’s written multiple times on the G-archive site itself: </p>
<p>&#8220;G-Archiver is your one click Gmail backup solution. Backup Gmail email messages to your computer using G-Archiver. Never lose another message - backup Gmail messages and you&#8217;ll have a stored copy on your computer in the event of Gmail data loss incidents.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first 3 sentences from the description on the front page all say that G-archiver is used to copy messages from gmails storage to your own hard drive. But if you don&#8217;t believe that, just look at the screenshots:  <a href="http://www.garchiver.com/screenshots.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.garchiver.com/screenshots.htm</a></p>
<p>They clearly show NO WAY to copy files from your hard drive to Gmail. They do show a way to download email off of Gmail and onto your hard drive.</p>
<p>Don’t take this the wrong way, but a bit of researching and reading on your part would help. I am aware of programs that copy files to gmail, but this is not one of them. Perhaps you&#8217;re thinking about something else.</p>
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		<title>By: ma65p</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-290758</link>
		<dc:creator>ma65p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A respond to mr poo,

Ok, G-archive is not an email client; it does not download and back up your emails. IT BACKUPS YOUR DATA ON GMAIL. So, with G-archive, Gmail is not simply an email account but also a storage space. I think you did not know the true function of G-archive, a bit of researching and reading will help.

Secondly, people are not stupid. Most of us do things for a reason. You are right, why save all emails? But G-archive is not meant for that, so your statements do not apply. And you are right again, Gmail got plenty of space for emails and with G-archive, we can shove more documents in there to utilize all the space provided. G-archive was built base on such a simple but innovative idea. And people would like to use everything that they are provided with. Stupid people don't do that.

One more thing, do you think that printing an email kinds of defeating the purpose of having an email? Think about it. They are meant to be digital. 

Finally, I am not saying it's ok to steal personal information. My point is that when a product is found to be malicious, we all laugh at those who use the product (and we do not have any background knowledge about the product and what it's for or why people bought them). The lesson is not "Trojan is ok" but it's more important to learn that any software you trust can be harmful. And don’t call people stupid because you can be one someday.

Having said that, I won't call you stupid, but next time, make sure your know what you are talking about before criticizing it. Again, G-archive is not an email client.

Enough said

Oh, by the way, I hate Gmail. But I have it for my spam storage (^.^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A respond to mr poo,</p>
<p>Ok, G-archive is not an email client; it does not download and back up your emails. IT BACKUPS YOUR DATA ON GMAIL. So, with G-archive, Gmail is not simply an email account but also a storage space. I think you did not know the true function of G-archive, a bit of researching and reading will help.</p>
<p>Secondly, people are not stupid. Most of us do things for a reason. You are right, why save all emails? But G-archive is not meant for that, so your statements do not apply. And you are right again, Gmail got plenty of space for emails and with G-archive, we can shove more documents in there to utilize all the space provided. G-archive was built base on such a simple but innovative idea. And people would like to use everything that they are provided with. Stupid people don&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>One more thing, do you think that printing an email kinds of defeating the purpose of having an email? Think about it. They are meant to be digital. </p>
<p>Finally, I am not saying it&#8217;s ok to steal personal information. My point is that when a product is found to be malicious, we all laugh at those who use the product (and we do not have any background knowledge about the product and what it&#8217;s for or why people bought them). The lesson is not &#8220;Trojan is ok&#8221; but it&#8217;s more important to learn that any software you trust can be harmful. And don’t call people stupid because you can be one someday.</p>
<p>Having said that, I won&#8217;t call you stupid, but next time, make sure your know what you are talking about before criticizing it. Again, G-archive is not an email client.</p>
<p>Enough said</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, I hate Gmail. But I have it for my spam storage (^.^)</p>
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		<title>By: mr poo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-290637</link>
		<dc:creator>mr poo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 07:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I especially like how people were actually stupid enough to pay for this rubbish. Even if it wasn’t a Trojan it’s still a pointless idea. Gmail gives you so much space that it’s going to be a long time before you run out anyway. At which point you can probably just delete most of the emails and print the really important ones. Why bother hording all your old emails from years ago? Seriously just let it go.  

And their excuse is pure crap. Yeah, the developer added code to send himself everyone’s password “by mistake” to “debug” the software.  That makes perfect sense. 

“Say, if itune store put a code to collect my visa card info, I wouldn’t know either. The thing is that G-archive got caught”

So you’re saying its ok for them to steal your personal information as long as they don’t get caught? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I especially like how people were actually stupid enough to pay for this rubbish. Even if it wasn’t a Trojan it’s still a pointless idea. Gmail gives you so much space that it’s going to be a long time before you run out anyway. At which point you can probably just delete most of the emails and print the really important ones. Why bother hording all your old emails from years ago? Seriously just let it go.  </p>
<p>And their excuse is pure crap. Yeah, the developer added code to send himself everyone’s password “by mistake” to “debug” the software.  That makes perfect sense. </p>
<p>“Say, if itune store put a code to collect my visa card info, I wouldn’t know either. The thing is that G-archive got caught”</p>
<p>So you’re saying its ok for them to steal your personal information as long as they don’t get caught?</p>
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		<title>By: ma65p</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-285982</link>
		<dc:creator>ma65p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who do not know what G-archive is, it archives your documents and then sent them to your Gmail account via email. This way, you can utilize storage space provided by Gmail. G-archive is NOT an EMAIL CLIENT.

Ok, here is my opinion. I really like the idea (great idea), I used this software once, but Gmail had only several GB of storage (and still counting). Since I bought a new external hard drive, I just stop using G-archive. Also, I don't use Gmail, I like yahoo mail better. POP3 is great, but still, what is that chance all yahoo servers crash and I lose all emails in my account? Not in my life time, I don't think.

And, I have to say this every time I post something, please excuse my English.

Thanks, and sucks for G-archive, no matter what, it was still a great idea.

I do kind of trust them about the debugging code excuse. Say, if itune store put a code to collect my visa card info, I wouldn't know either. The thing is that G-archive got caught, and, and the creator STORE his client's email user and pass. He's in deep trouble. I hope he doesn't get sued.

Crap, I need to stop, well, buy an external hard drive, then no more G-archive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who do not know what G-archive is, it archives your documents and then sent them to your Gmail account via email. This way, you can utilize storage space provided by Gmail. G-archive is NOT an EMAIL CLIENT.</p>
<p>Ok, here is my opinion. I really like the idea (great idea), I used this software once, but Gmail had only several GB of storage (and still counting). Since I bought a new external hard drive, I just stop using G-archive. Also, I don&#8217;t use Gmail, I like yahoo mail better. POP3 is great, but still, what is that chance all yahoo servers crash and I lose all emails in my account? Not in my life time, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
<p>And, I have to say this every time I post something, please excuse my English.</p>
<p>Thanks, and sucks for G-archive, no matter what, it was still a great idea.</p>
<p>I do kind of trust them about the debugging code excuse. Say, if itune store put a code to collect my visa card info, I wouldn&#8217;t know either. The thing is that G-archive got caught, and, and the creator STORE his client&#8217;s email user and pass. He&#8217;s in deep trouble. I hope he doesn&#8217;t get sued.</p>
<p>Crap, I need to stop, well, buy an external hard drive, then no more G-archive.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tomasi</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-282458</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Tomasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with Mattia. I would have changed John Terry's password and thrown a monkey wrench in his operation. Some people!

--Chuck Tomasi
--Host and producer of Technorama, Gmail Podcast, Freestyle, and Radio Yesterday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mattia. I would have changed John Terry&#8217;s password and thrown a monkey wrench in his operation. Some people!</p>
<p>&#8211;Chuck Tomasi<br />
&#8211;Host and producer of Technorama, Gmail Podcast, Freestyle, and Radio Yesterday</p>
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		<title>By: Bull3t</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-279827</link>
		<dc:creator>Bull3t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich and jcorvus: It is a pity that you like to pick holes in other peoples writing. Especially when you use words like "noobish" yourself. Nicely done.

There is absolutely no need to take a dig at the post author for simple mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich and jcorvus: It is a pity that you like to pick holes in other peoples writing. Especially when you use words like &#8220;noobish&#8221; yourself. Nicely done.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no need to take a dig at the post author for simple mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: jcorvus</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-279495</link>
		<dc:creator>jcorvus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pity you don't check your English before you publish to the World...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity you don&#8217;t check your English before you publish to the World&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-279166</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't go into a hardware store and purchase 'a hardware' so why do you think you would purchase 'a software'? You purchase 'software', 'some software', or even 'a software program', but not 'a software'. That's just noobish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t go into a hardware store and purchase &#8216;a hardware&#8217; so why do you think you would purchase &#8216;a software&#8217;? You purchase &#8217;software&#8217;, &#8217;some software&#8217;, or even &#8216;a software program&#8217;, but not &#8216;a software&#8217;. That&#8217;s just noobish.</p>
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		<title>By: Lo</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-279033</link>
		<dc:creator>Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tell me more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tell me more</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-278777</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....debug code?  Bull, if that's all it was the code would have been pulled already and the program would be compiled and back up.

This was more than just debug code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.debug code?  Bull, if that&#8217;s all it was the code would have been pulled already and the program would be compiled and back up.</p>
<p>This was more than just debug code.</p>
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		<title>By: jas</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-278771</link>
		<dc:creator>jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!! debugging code, and that was why it was collection everyone's email/pass!


makes perfect sense!


not a trojan _at_ _all_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!! debugging code, and that was why it was collection everyone&#8217;s email/pass!</p>
<p>makes perfect sense!</p>
<p>not a trojan _at_ _all_</p>
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		<title>By: uhoh</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-278014</link>
		<dc:creator>uhoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol

What happened with G-Archiver?

It has come to our attention that a flaw in the coding of G-Archiver may have revealed customer's Gmail account usernames and passwords.

It is urgent that you remove the current version of G-Archiver from your computer, and change your Gmail account password right away.

What happened was that a member of our development team had inserted coding used for testing G-Archiver in the debug version and forgot to delete it in the final release version.

We sincerely apologize and assure you that this coding mishap was in no way intentional.

We'll be releasing a new version that corrects the flaw in version 1.0. The new version will be available very soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
<p>What happened with G-Archiver?</p>
<p>It has come to our attention that a flaw in the coding of G-Archiver may have revealed customer&#8217;s Gmail account usernames and passwords.</p>
<p>It is urgent that you remove the current version of G-Archiver from your computer, and change your Gmail account password right away.</p>
<p>What happened was that a member of our development team had inserted coding used for testing G-Archiver in the debug version and forgot to delete it in the final release version.</p>
<p>We sincerely apologize and assure you that this coding mishap was in no way intentional.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be releasing a new version that corrects the flaw in version 1.0. The new version will be available very soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277940</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malicious? Probably not. Just a debugging process.

The biggest security threat now is that people have released how to get into jterry's email account... Hopefully he's changed that pass though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malicious? Probably not. Just a debugging process.</p>
<p>The biggest security threat now is that people have released how to get into jterry&#8217;s email account&#8230; Hopefully he&#8217;s changed that pass though.</p>
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		<title>By: zzzZZZzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277702</link>
		<dc:creator>zzzZZZzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, all that is just to debug the code :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, all that is just to debug the code <img src='http://www.ghacks.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: G_Archiver owners BEWARE- &#124; ProCookie Technology Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277663</link>
		<dc:creator>G_Archiver owners BEWARE- &#124; ProCookie Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beware of G-Archiver [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277654</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.garchiver.com/what-happened.htm

They say that the stealing of user emails and passwords was unintentional because a programmer forgot to remove that chunk of code from the release version. I don't know how many people are going to trust this program now though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.garchiver.com/what-happened.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.garchiver.com/what-happened.htm</a></p>
<p>They say that the stealing of user emails and passwords was unintentional because a programmer forgot to remove that chunk of code from the release version. I don&#8217;t know how many people are going to trust this program now though.</p>
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		<title>By: mattia</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277624</link>
		<dc:creator>mattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope that Dustin deleted all the email L/P and changed the password of the fraud account. This way this "John" won't be able to get the info even before gmail blocks his account! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope that Dustin deleted all the email L/P and changed the password of the fraud account. This way this &#8220;John&#8221; won&#8217;t be able to get the info even before gmail blocks his account! <img src='http://www.ghacks.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277622</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To WCS.Tony: now that would be the LOGICAL way of doing things.  Nobody ever claims the general public to be Logical :)

I personally use Yahoo premium mail for US$20 per year.  It lets me easily zip and archive all my files.  And with unlimited storage, I find it easier to load my software up there for retrieval at client sites should I need it.  Sometimes I forget my USB stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To WCS.Tony: now that would be the LOGICAL way of doing things.  Nobody ever claims the general public to be Logical <img src='http://www.ghacks.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I personally use Yahoo premium mail for US$20 per year.  It lets me easily zip and archive all my files.  And with unlimited storage, I find it easier to load my software up there for retrieval at client sites should I need it.  Sometimes I forget my USB stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2008/03/11/beware-of-g-archiver/#comment-277587</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I don't understand either. You can use Thunderbird as well, free anywhere, or MailStore which was reviewed here as well. 

I hope the guy gets caught, I really hate people like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I don&#8217;t understand either. You can use Thunderbird as well, free anywhere, or MailStore which was reviewed here as well. </p>
<p>I hope the guy gets caught, I really hate people like this.</p>
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