Comments on: Windows Steady State http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/ A technology blog covering software, mobile phones, gadgets, security, the Internet and other relevant areas. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:16:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: James http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-915609 James Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:25:57 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-915609 this is not fun cause i dislike ur punctuation i only can read 2 words per minute how can i instruct plzzz. this is not fun cause i dislike ur punctuation i only can read 2 words per minute how can i instruct plzzz.

]]> By: not fun http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-889721 not fun Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:30 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-889721 this is not fun cause i hate this program by u i only can play 2 hours a day and my dad dont wanna change i hate this how i can hack it plzzz. help my dad is so noob help... this is not fun cause i hate this program by u i only can play 2 hours a day and my dad dont wanna change i hate this how i can hack it plzzz. help my dad is so noob help…

]]> By: Simon Tygesen http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-606840 Simon Tygesen Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:55:04 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-606840 Windows Steady state is a very handy piece of software, if used with caution, like any software that has advanced capabilities, you have to know what you are doing in order not to cause more trouble than you solve. Windows steady state is such a piece of software and is not intended for a personal computers, but for shared computers that you install once and leave unattended "forever" and thereby cuts down maintenance costs for IT administrators and network management companies. So even though Microsoft states that Windows Steady state is easy to use even for non experts that is not entirely accurate, you surely have to know what you are doing when you install on an already filled up hard drive with already several specifically personally configured accounts. If its not a new cleanly installed computer with only the most necessary software or lots of space on the hard drive, plenty of memory and processor power, that you then immediately there after choose to install steady state on, and use that to manage your accounts you will surely run into difficulties, and lots of trouble. To give you an example, I my self tested this piece of software to protect my own personal machine, which is a very important work tool, shared with my wife who is a photographer(very important tool for her), because I was going out of town and had a friend look out for my home and allowed him to access the internet from that machine. Only problem was, that I decided before testing this software on freshly minimum installed system, just switched hard-disk protection on, and locked my wifes account with her about 70 Gigabytes of raw photos and on top of that created a Guest account with access only to the internet through IE. The problem with this setup exactly... Well, The hard drive is only a 150GB, with a recovery partition of 9GB and a partition on 30GB leaving only a 100GB for the system, where my wife already had filled her desktop with about a 70 GB.. leaving 9GB for Microsoft Steady State to work with... Leaving out the door in a hurry to catch the plane... this proved to be very stupid... The disk protection in connection with my lock down of the 70 GB photographer account... was not possible... Microsoft steady state will try to make a 100% mirror of the original account, cause the accounts have to be managed through steady state on given a 100% protection, but this was an existing account that got modified, and disk protection activated... and only 9GB of free space before this activation... You do the math... We are at least 60GB short. well, the good thing is that Steady state didn't crash, my friend could access the guest account, carbonite kept backing up and i could remote control my machine using LOGMEIN with no trouble... except that the computer was running extremely slow and my wifes photography account was hardly accessible and only 200 MB of free space left for page-filing. Thinking about my setup, I would with all my expertise have expected that the computer would not have been able to boot, but it did, for a whole month until I returned home. Now i uninstalled Steady State and have learned not use it and anything but freshly installed computers that is to be used for sharing, to save me the trouble of heavy maintenance as an administrator. Its a tool that needs a little more than beginners knowledge of the world of computers. Take your time to test any given software on a clean machine before put it in operation on your dear hardworking machine, with all your money and hours of work on the hard drive... The professionals does nothing more than that, testing the software for hours in a safe environment on test computer before they claim that they are experts. Take it from one who had to learn the hard way. Did not become an expert of recovering lost data, because I am born with a computer in my arms, but because i did stupid things with my precious files and hard drives. Learning by doing, but with a lot heartaches and headaches. spare yourselves. Use a clean system for testing unknown software or consult the experts before. SIANSI Windows Steady state is a very handy piece of software, if used with caution, like any software that has advanced capabilities, you have to know what you are doing in order not to cause more trouble than you solve.
Windows steady state is such a piece of software and is not intended for a personal computers, but for shared computers that you install once and leave unattended “forever” and thereby cuts down maintenance costs for IT administrators and network management companies.
So even though Microsoft states that Windows Steady state is easy to use even for non experts that is not entirely accurate, you surely have to know what you are doing when you install on an already filled up hard drive with already several specifically personally configured accounts. If its not a new cleanly installed computer with only the most necessary software or lots of space on the hard drive, plenty of memory and processor power, that you then immediately there after choose to install steady state on, and use that to manage your accounts you will surely run into difficulties, and lots of trouble.

To give you an example, I my self tested this piece of software to protect my own personal machine, which is a very important work tool, shared with my wife who is a photographer(very important tool for her), because I was going out of town and had a friend look out for my home and allowed him to access the internet from that machine. Only problem was, that I decided before testing this software on freshly minimum installed system, just switched hard-disk protection on, and locked my wifes account with her about 70 Gigabytes of raw photos and on top of that created a Guest account with access only to the internet through IE.
The problem with this setup exactly… Well, The hard drive is only a 150GB, with a recovery partition of 9GB and a partition on 30GB leaving only a 100GB for the system, where my wife already had filled her desktop with about a 70 GB.. leaving 9GB for Microsoft Steady State to work with… Leaving out the door in a hurry to catch the plane… this proved to be very stupid…

The disk protection in connection with my lock down of the 70 GB photographer account… was not possible… Microsoft steady state will try to make a 100% mirror of the original account, cause the accounts have to be managed through steady state on given a 100% protection, but this was an existing account that got modified, and disk protection activated… and only 9GB of free space before this activation… You do the math… We are at least 60GB short. well, the good thing is that Steady state didn’t crash, my friend could access the guest account, carbonite kept backing up and i could remote control my machine using LOGMEIN with no trouble… except that the computer was running extremely slow and my wifes photography account was hardly accessible and only 200 MB of free space left for page-filing. Thinking about my setup, I would with all my expertise have expected that the computer would not have been able to boot, but it did, for a whole month until I returned home.
Now i uninstalled Steady State and have learned not use it and anything but freshly installed computers that is to be used for sharing, to save me the trouble of heavy maintenance as an administrator.

Its a tool that needs a little more than beginners knowledge of the world of computers. Take your time to test any given software on a clean machine before put it in operation on your dear hardworking machine, with all your money and hours of work on the hard drive… The professionals does nothing more than that, testing the software for hours in a safe environment on test computer before they claim that they are experts.

Take it from one who had to learn the hard way.
Did not become an expert of recovering lost data, because I am born with a computer in my arms, but because i did stupid things with my precious files and hard drives. Learning by doing, but with a lot heartaches and headaches. spare yourselves. Use a clean system for testing unknown software or consult the experts before.

SIANSI

]]> By: DD http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-419665 DD Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:08 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-419665 I am using Steady State for thousands of retail point of service system and it is awesome. Not sure why you are having so many problems? It was very easy to install and configure; great tool for locking down stand alone pc's. I am using Steady State for thousands of retail point of service system and it is awesome. Not sure why you are having so many problems? It was very easy to install and configure; great tool for locking down stand alone pc’s.

]]> By: atk http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-293613 atk Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:05:18 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-293613 Worst program, ever! Slow, difficult to uninstall, and I ended up rebuilding my machine because of all the errors I received. There is nothing steady about this. It changes your state to the extent you'll never get it back. What's even worse is that I used System Restore to set a restore point right before I installed Steady State. After I installed it and saw what a P.O.S. it was, I just thought I'd revert back to the restore point I had created. Well, I couldn't because Steady State f'ed that up too. Bottom line: don't use this. Worst program, ever! Slow, difficult to uninstall, and I ended up rebuilding my machine because of all the errors I received. There is nothing steady about this. It changes your state to the extent you’ll never get it back. What’s even worse is that I used System Restore to set a restore point right before I installed Steady State. After I installed it and saw what a P.O.S. it was, I just thought I’d revert back to the restore point I had created. Well, I couldn’t because Steady State f’ed that up too. Bottom line: don’t use this.

]]> By: Al http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-280382 Al Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:40:21 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-280382 Brian 1. That is why it is called a beta 2. what is more important to you a couple of seconds waiting or a unusable computer. 3. Have you tried other "Locking programs" IE:Deep Freeze, Clean Slate.... the list goes on and on most require a reboot to update. Most take longer to load. yes it still has bugs I currently have 300 workstations using it for the most part without any trouble. some expected troubles but nothing I haven't yet been able to handle I have even intentionally ghosted a machine with steady state on and running let it load up and lock up. then I rebooted in safe mode let it dump the cache told it to keep the changes and placed it back into domain after running newsid AWESOME it worked Fxxxxxxxxx has lost a customer. I have yet to find anything that works as well and this is still in beta sometimes Microsoft does somethings right. Brian
1. That is why it is called a beta
2. what is more important to you a couple of seconds waiting or a unusable computer.
3. Have you tried other “Locking programs” IE:Deep Freeze, Clean Slate…. the list goes on and on most require a reboot to update. Most take longer to load.
yes it still has bugs I currently have 300 workstations using it for the most part without any trouble. some expected troubles but nothing I haven’t yet been able to handle I have even intentionally ghosted a machine with steady state on and running let it load up and lock up. then I rebooted in safe mode let it dump the cache told it to keep the changes and placed it back into domain after running newsid AWESOME it worked Fxxxxxxxxx has lost a customer. I have yet to find anything that works as well and this is still in beta sometimes Microsoft does somethings right.

]]> By: Scott Campbell http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-275183 Scott Campbell Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:43:11 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-275183 Yes, Brian, your'e right, but the new beta 2.5 has sorted this : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4DE91D3A-69F4-4D7B-94B1-C69B8BE029F4&displaylang=en note it is still in beta so you may find some bugs Yes, Brian, your’e right, but the new beta 2.5 has sorted this : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4DE91D3A-69F4-4D7B-94B1-C69B8BE029F4&displaylang=en note it is still in beta so you may find some bugs

]]> By: Yffic http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-209584 Yffic Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:20:20 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-209584 FYI : My PC is a XP Windows FYI : My PC is a XP Windows

]]> By: Yffic http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-209583 Yffic Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:19:16 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-209583 Do NOT install Steady State, it hangs up during long long minutes. Just the same shit as Windows Live One Care. Same thing, same effects ! DO NOT INSTALL Do NOT install Steady State, it hangs up during long long minutes. Just the same shit as Windows Live One Care. Same thing, same effects ! DO NOT INSTALL

]]> By: Brian http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-170825 Brian Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:42:53 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-170825 Do NOT install this if you want your system to hang 10+ seconds (some ppl's 2 mins). This is a documented and known issue they are "working on". I've experienced this first hand and had to uninstall it! Do NOT install this if you want your system to hang 10+ seconds (some ppl’s 2 mins). This is a documented and known issue they are “working on”.
I’ve experienced this first hand and had to uninstall it!

]]> By: Enigma http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-170768 Enigma Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:09:59 +0000 http://www.ghacks.net/2007/09/25/windows-steady-state/#comment-170768 genius, how the hell did I not know about this. thanks again. genius, how the hell did I not know about this.

thanks again.

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