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	<title>Comments on: When Unlimited means limited</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105402</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really ran into this unlimited is limited problem when researching VOIP providers.  I had signed up with one only to find that their unlimited plan included 2000 minutes/month -- my cell phone provides me with more minutes!  Then there&#039;s Broadvoice which reserves the right to charge for overages back to whenever they feel you started &quot;abusing&quot; the service -- I&#039;d hate to have had them for five years and then go slightly over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really ran into this unlimited is limited problem when researching VOIP providers.  I had signed up with one only to find that their unlimited plan included 2000 minutes/month &#8212; my cell phone provides me with more minutes!  Then there&#8217;s Broadvoice which reserves the right to charge for overages back to whenever they feel you started &#8220;abusing&#8221; the service &#8212; I&#8217;d hate to have had them for five years and then go slightly over.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105264</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panos: OVH.com - chepest server is 19 euro (24 inc.tax) BUT there is a problem site is in French. There are two other languages - German and Polish, but then server costs about 30euro. There is a English site there, but don&#039;t look at it, it&#039;s crap and nobody updates that site from 2 years any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panos: OVH.com &#8211; chepest server is 19 euro (24 inc.tax) BUT there is a problem site is in French. There are two other languages &#8211; German and Polish, but then server costs about 30euro. There is a English site there, but don&#8217;t look at it, it&#8217;s crap and nobody updates that site from 2 years any more.</p>
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		<title>By: CaitSith2</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105190</link>
		<dc:creator>CaitSith2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unlimited&quot; in dialup, actually means 744 hours per month.  Some providers only allow one computer to be connected on an account, at a time.  For those that allow more than one computer to be connected at a time, (In my case, with telus,  exceeding 744 hours, results in billing of $1.25 per hour past that.)  That can get mighty expensive if you keep 2 computers connected to dialup 24/7.  It would be cheaper in that case, to get two seperate dialup accounts, one for each computer.  In fact, it still is cheaper to do so, if one computer is remaining connected 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlimited&#8221; in dialup, actually means 744 hours per month.  Some providers only allow one computer to be connected on an account, at a time.  For those that allow more than one computer to be connected at a time, (In my case, with telus,  exceeding 744 hours, results in billing of $1.25 per hour past that.)  That can get mighty expensive if you keep 2 computers connected to dialup 24/7.  It would be cheaper in that case, to get two seperate dialup accounts, one for each computer.  In fact, it still is cheaper to do so, if one computer is remaining connected 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105184</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this term &quot;Unlimited&quot; at least in regards to ISP, goes back to the days of dialup. Often accounts were limited to the number of minutes or hours per month. Wasn&#039;t long after that &quot;unlimited&quot; started popping up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe this term &#8220;Unlimited&#8221; at least in regards to ISP, goes back to the days of dialup. Often accounts were limited to the number of minutes or hours per month. Wasn&#8217;t long after that &#8220;unlimited&#8221; started popping up.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105108</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The German company Hetzner offers some pretty good packages for 49 Euros per month. (Athlon64 3700+, 1 GB Ram, 2*160 SATA, free &quot;unlimited&quot; traffic which means the first 1 Terrabyte at full speed, after that the speed gets reduced to 10Mbit until the next billing period. 49 Euros would be about 63 Dollars.

Ghacks is hosted there btw, but on a bigger server ;)

http://hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The German company Hetzner offers some pretty good packages for 49 Euros per month. (Athlon64 3700+, 1 GB Ram, 2*160 SATA, free &#8220;unlimited&#8221; traffic which means the first 1 Terrabyte at full speed, after that the speed gets reduced to 10Mbit until the next billing period. 49 Euros would be about 63 Dollars.</p>
<p>Ghacks is hosted there btw, but on a bigger server ;)</p>
<p><a href="http://hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://hetzner.de/rootserver_en.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Panos</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105101</link>
		<dc:creator>Panos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thinker!
30$/month for a dedicated server? Where? How? ;) Im in a search of such a service cause i dont want any more to rely on shared services

Πάνος</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thinker!<br />
30$/month for a dedicated server? Where? How? ;) Im in a search of such a service cause i dont want any more to rely on shared services</p>
<p>Πάνος</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105097</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy dedicated server :P I got one, since virtual servers are good for small sites only. Now I got 10mbps without limits (I got sometimes transfers like 300GB per month). 
Before I bought a dedicated one, I was told to leave three virtual servers :P 
And dedicated are not so expensive - even 30$/month you can have one, and u can share with someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy dedicated server :P I got one, since virtual servers are good for small sites only. Now I got 10mbps without limits (I got sometimes transfers like 300GB per month).<br />
Before I bought a dedicated one, I was told to leave three virtual servers :P<br />
And dedicated are not so expensive &#8211; even 30$/month you can have one, and u can share with someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105093</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 06:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar to Virgin Media&#039;s XL 10mbps service for UK customers, &#039;&#039;No download limits †&#039;&#039; - notice the little cross next to that!?  - That means you are limited.  Limited to 25Gb per month in the fair usage policy.  Totally bs seeing as im paying for &#039;no download limits&#039;...

NTL never used to enforce the limit, since virgin takeover we will have to wait and see...

25gb is about 24 hours for me! haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar to Virgin Media&#8217;s XL 10mbps service for UK customers, &#8221;No download limits †&#8221; &#8211; notice the little cross next to that!?  &#8211; That means you are limited.  Limited to 25Gb per month in the fair usage policy.  Totally bs seeing as im paying for &#8216;no download limits&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>NTL never used to enforce the limit, since virgin takeover we will have to wait and see&#8230;</p>
<p>25gb is about 24 hours for me! haha</p>
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		<title>By: VoodooTool</title>
		<link>http://www.ghacks.net/2007/04/03/when-unlimited-means-limited/#comment-105090</link>
		<dc:creator>VoodooTool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not only Verizons but a lot of the big players in hosting business act like that. They also pay the webmasters of well known hosting discussion forums and pay people to write excellent reviews about their own services.
My last hoster tried to force me from a $10 shared hosting Plan into a $180 dedicated server Plan by locking all my accounts until i upgrade. Looks like all webmasters have to gain this experience once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not only Verizons but a lot of the big players in hosting business act like that. They also pay the webmasters of well known hosting discussion forums and pay people to write excellent reviews about their own services.<br />
My last hoster tried to force me from a $10 shared hosting Plan into a $180 dedicated server Plan by locking all my accounts until i upgrade. Looks like all webmasters have to gain this experience once.</p>
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		<title>By: Hornswaggled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hornswaggled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had some experience with this stuff too. Most of the time the companies involved will *upgrade something and no longer support the previous version leaving you with a worthless program. 

I&#039;m in AZ and hear the Qwest touting the same Internet service for life price. I assume that this will be for the same service no matter what, meaning 20 years from now you can still pay x amount for a 20 year old slow service. 

In my experience unlimited for life is only good if you don&#039;t plan on living more than a year :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had some experience with this stuff too. Most of the time the companies involved will *upgrade something and no longer support the previous version leaving you with a worthless program. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in AZ and hear the Qwest touting the same Internet service for life price. I assume that this will be for the same service no matter what, meaning 20 years from now you can still pay x amount for a 20 year old slow service. </p>
<p>In my experience unlimited for life is only good if you don&#8217;t plan on living more than a year :).</p>
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