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Noel Briggs says, November 30th, 2005   

Good advice man - and you’re right on with the firewall advice as well. Let me add to it:

When PROPERLY PATCHED, you really don’t need a firewall - for those who are still un-convinced, consider this: firewalls are their to hide vulnerabilities. Vulnerabilities exist in UNPATCHED SOFTWARE (and hardware sometimes ;). So, patch your system, run an anti-virus package, and you’re as good to go as anyone else out there.

Microsoft patches should be a Windows user’s greatest concern - these are vulnerabilities that Microsoft has acknowledged and provided a patch for. In my experience, MOST viruses, trojans, worms, etc. rely on the very vulnerabilities that the patches are designed to fix. That’s right, the “bad guys” are watching the patches, figuring out what’s broken, and attacking computers that simply aren’t patched. I can’t say it enough: run Windows Update, and patch your pc… dude.

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Bob says, November 30th, 2005   

“When PROPERLY PATCHED, you really don’t need a firewall - for those who are still un-convinced, consider this: firewalls are their to hide vulnerabilities. Vulnerabilities exist in UNPATCHED SOFTWARE (and hardware sometimes ;) . So, patch your system, run an anti-virus package, and you’re as good to go as anyone else out there.”

Pray tell, oh wise one, how not running a firewall will protect against unpatched software, that does not have any patches released yet? You know, like the MAJORITY of exploits that have been published weeks/months before a patch is ever released?

Brad Clarkston says, November 30th, 2005   

The “No Firewall” advice (and comments) should be thought out a bit more before you recommend that to a non-tech.

Yes software firewalls on a windows based system is nearly worthless especially on a dial-up connection. But to tell a broadband user they have no need for a firewall will only lead to more zombie bots.

You should instead recommend a decent hardware firewall Even a $60.00(US) home Linksys/D-Link router set to NAT will will server them better as it’s a simple configure and forget device.

That way they only have to worry about anti-virus (ClamWin - free open source) and spyware (Ad-Aware and Spybot) which makes things easier to remember.

Corey says, November 30th, 2005   

Don’t use ad-aware anymore. Spy Sweeper is a hundred times more successful in removing some of the pesky spyware that ad-aware still has yet to figure out how to remove.

Brad Clarkston says, November 30th, 2005   

Yes Spy Sweeper is the best spyware utility out there but it costs $30.00(US) a year which is crazy.

Ad-Aware + Spybot together will catch and clean as much spyware as Webroots product which is why I recommended both of them together and they are free.

If you need the best and have money to burn every year get Webroots product by all means.

MaZa says, November 30th, 2005   

Just want to add…… don’t run IE :-)

Example: JavaScript addon for Firefox. Its simply dandy

Administrator says, November 30th, 2005   

I do agree with what you´ve written so far. A hardware firewall is a good solution which should be recommended to everyone. I should have said so as a suggestion, thanks for pointing this out.

unSecure says, November 30th, 2005   

no firewall?

I am a noob and I know that is not right. -digg

YourBase says, November 30th, 2005   

but what if you want to deny specific programs access to the net? does whutdown winServers do this?

WiNo says, November 30th, 2005   

Good advice.
I also use WinPatrol (http://www.winpatrol.com/) - Checks startup changes, file association changes, and more.

Also, not running as an Admin user is very good advice.
If you need to install something, use Run As… (if your OS supports it) or log in as the admin just for that install.
It’s a hassle, but it does make it harder for malicious apps to do very bad things.

Oh, and password protect that admin account… the number of people I’ve helped out who (bless their hearts) don’t log in with Admin rights but don’t password protect the admin account… *sighs*

hammy says, November 30th, 2005   

I have to ask, why have you chosen such a small font? It makes for readability hell, and you don’t need anything getting in the way of your content.

Regarding the content of the article, some of these tools aren’t immediately applicable for beginners. What does the average beginner know regarding processes on their computer? A notable tool missing from your round-up is HijackThis! An inclusion of this tool and the various hijackthis log parsers would do wonders for many people.

Everything else seems on the level though, perhaps an expanded entry in the future might get you more positive feedback.

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daniele says, November 30th, 2005   

firefox ctrl +

Administrator says, November 30th, 2005   

10. no you can´t do that, if you can get your hands on a hardware firewall do that, else you would need a software firewall.

12. I tested the site with firefox 1.5, opera 8.5 and internet explorer 6.0 and all show a good medium sized font. If you have difficulties reading the entries you could use CTRL + mousewheel up / down to decrease / increase font size of the webpage.

Dany says, November 30th, 2005   

Nice Guide. I have a question I have a wireless router that functions like a firewall and it protects my computer of unwanted incoming traffic but if I buy a laptop will the protection of my wireless router protect my laptop?

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A1 says, November 30th, 2005   

Microsofts own Spyware Tool. ?

Are you kidding? I’d almost rather have spyware.

Well, no. :) But therea are way better alternatives, even to AdAware.

Spamroll says, November 30th, 2005   

No firewall you say

Just because a lot of exploits carry themselves across ports that your firewall keeps open for other services doesn’t mean they are useless. Advising Windows users not to use firewalls just because it creates a false sense of security is…

Risen80 says, November 30th, 2005   

Let’s get real. No firewall? Firewalls are about preventative maintenance - a proactive approach to mitigating the possibility of being compromised. There are no guarantees , but that doesn’t mean one SHOULDN’T use a firewall. It is like a seat belt, it MIGHT kill you in an accident or it MIGHT save you. Statistically, it is more likely to save you.

Additionally, safe computing practices (such as don’t hunt for free MP3’s, porn, use FireFox, ban ActiveX controls, etc) will go far to secure a USER from the Internet. It is all about the “red dot” - everything has a red dot of death on it. The bigger the dot, the more likely it will be the target hit by the perverbial rocket. I look for the smallest red dot possible (I learned this from my days in Half-Life multiplayer: red dot = rocket = imminent death).

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Administrator says, November 30th, 2005   

I think its great that we have lots of different opinions, thats fine with me. I´am running my pc without a software firewall for 6 months now and never encountered a problem, luck ? probably..

If you are happy using a software firewall do so, I´am not telling you that you have to uninstall your firewall and run your computer without one. Its your decision. If my advice is sound to you you probably try it out, if not well, then not.

You should also remember that freeware personal firewalls are becoming scarce, sygate and kerio will not be updated anymore. Whats good firewall is left ? I can´t think of a free one but maybe some of you.. let me know.

derek says, November 30th, 2005   

i use zonealarm firewall on my comp. i got it off one of the free PC cds that came with my MaximumPC subscription. its seems to do the job and is a free program. i also noticed that since ive installed it my computer doesnt start slowing down as much after using it for a long time.

Administrator says, November 30th, 2005   

derek i suggest you take a look at this link which has a discussion if one should zonealarm or not.

http://www.deny.de/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=13559

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epplegacks says, December 1st, 2005   

Or you could get a mac. Still very good advise for the windoze bound.

Brad Clarkston says, December 1st, 2005   

For a free Open Source anti-virus program I’d recommend ClamWin at [http://www.clamwin.com]. It’s GUI isn’t as advanced as AVG but you can look at the source code and they update their definitions as many times a day as needed instead of only once a week like the three big $$ AV companies.

Iain Cheyne says, December 1st, 2005   

Or you could install Linux instead. It’s free and not as difficult as you think.

Jack Thornton says, December 1st, 2005   

But… but…

Where’s the equivalent Linux tools?
My gosh, why didn’t I realise in time that PC of course means Window box :(

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Martin says, December 1st, 2005   

hej the linux guys can help themselves ;)

Jorden says, December 1st, 2005   

I disagree with the idea of not using a software firewall.

Using a software firewall is simply to protect you at the application level. Trojans, take advantage of dll injection on IEXPLORER.EXE to bypass the firewall, but that only works if, 1) you have IE set to auto allow and/or 2) you don’t have any specific rules setup.

So maybe for the average user is a software firewall not needed, but I definitly recommend using one. Sygate detects .DLL injection, which my linksys router doesn’t do.

bui says, December 2nd, 2005   

If i was to stop using a software firewall, should I disable the windows firewall as well? or does that not matter?

Harry says, December 2nd, 2005   

I agreee with most of the reasoning, however, not with no firewall, essentially for reasons already stated by other poeple above. HOWEVER …

Having a firewall can stop attacks by the mere fact that most ports are blocked from the outside world, stopping many from even finding the machine in the first place. If an exploit gets onto the machine to “press” say zonealarms off button, it is already too late anyway. (Otherwise, how did the exploit get there.)

It will ALWAYS be a race against those who infect, and those who attempt to infect. A firewall (even a software one) is just another level that attempts to stave off the wolves

Brad Clarkston says, December 2nd, 2005   

In regards to post #34 -

The WinXP SP2 Firewall is very passive so it’s ok to leave it on at all times as a layered defense.

Connected Internet News | Broadband Mobile Gaming News says, December 3rd, 2005   

Security Advice For Beginners - Don’t Run A Firewall

One of my partners has put together a fairly comprehensive Beginners Guide To Securing A PC.  However, Martin has one piece of advice which I don’t personally think is a good tip for beginners.   He argues that a software firewall gives…

KP says, December 27th, 2005   

Hi Guys , The way I figure it you can use a software firewall or not use a
software firewall there are risks either way you dice it; my advice make your
system as slimline as posible(Yeah I know , good luck with Microsoft!, don’t
we all just want the days of windows 3.1 to return!) Patch it up , make it
secure as you possibly can and then backup , backup, backup! Ghost is my
friend… :)

Hmm…I bet someone will now want to create a thread about should you use
Ghost or another program to backup your drive , but hey at least its backed
up!

Kiltak says, January 2nd, 2006   

I also wrote a similar article if anyone is interested..

Microsoft Windows security for computer illiterates (Good title hun? :) )
http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2005/12/microsoft-windows-security-for.html

vee says, January 10th, 2006   

I think it all goes by preference. Alot of things one person uses another wil
l not. Some people can only use certain programs depending on their operating
system. I doubt its for anyone to say what is needed or not needed.
It all depends on your computers vulnerabilites and how well knowldeged you are
in taking proper care of your computer, updating your software, and
surfing the internet safely.
It is the user who makes the choices, in the end a user could have the crappiest
computer protection, but if it makes them feel secure, that is what they are
going to choose.

WaffaDrunker says, April 2nd, 2006   

GOOD topic but: No FIREWALL @ all?

Of course most people who do not know what they are doing DO need firewall, one of the many reasons are: Beginners DO not patch their software and still click on every possible link they see and ignore system warnings etc (or their friends).

What use is for beginner to see the system processes etc, good if they recognize from these tools that MSN is starting up every time they boot PC lol.

Best would be ShutDown WinServers (shut down NT services - u can do it manually, google!) + Software Firewall + Hardware firewall(most cheep routers will do, note: H-W F-W do not see if any program is hijacked). No need to say u need AV and anti spyware.

I was using Sygate Pro and started to test Lavasoft Firewall(seems good), and nothing is better in the end compared to Nod32 if ya SET IT UP RIGHT WAY. Some AV makers leak “independent” tests where Nod32 looks bad - do not believe these sites. Even for beginner with default settings - nod32 is good!

Of course.. then comes the money part… well, everyone finds hes own ways how to use software who asks to much € or $
One other question, all what u have on ur PC, is it not worth 25… 50 dollars a year to buy some good sec software? Most people want everything for nothing, not thinking all the months, years hard work and money what takes to make good software. Would You work for nothing?

One other thing: there is difference for what u need on New PC v. infected PC

Use Linux? Like there would be no hack and holes in usual linux system, hope so. Xandros Pro is what i use, u can run some Windows software on this to and its really easy to use. Use Mac? If ya have so much money, and do not want to use most fun software what is out there, why not. But its like recommending to change your house (to get warm) from Estonia to one in Hawaii because your Windows is broken lol

Please google about software before u install it, these 5 minutes do not kill u ;)

srry for bad english, but i hope u got my point ppl :)
- Waffa Drunker -

WaffaDrunker says, April 3rd, 2006   

Is it just me…

“Shutdown Windows’ servers” is a program, which makes Microsoft Windows XP Home, Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Windows 2000 much more secure from attacks from the network. Other Windows releases I cannot support until now.”

U forget to add that ur advice is for NT users not for win95, 98 or ME users. Dont ya think its important or do you think no one will use 9x systems anymore?

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Nezuji says, June 22nd, 2006   

WiNo (Comment #11):
I don’t have any personal experience with this, but according to some articles I’ve read, not setting a password on an admin account in XP actually makes it impossible to log in as that admin remotely. I think it has something to do with Microsoft rigging it so that all remote logins attempts must provide a password — even a blank one — meaning that the remote login attempt fails by providing an incorrect password (i.e. having one at all).

Of course, you’re then leaving yourself open to the uninformed actions of your teenage child… ;b

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